/tg/Station 13

Lacran

That's odd because none of the headmins you've voted for share your concerns on their platform and definitely haven't planned on making the changes you propose? this is patently false. last cycle I voted Lukas 1st and Timber like top 3 and it was my favorite headmin szn yet :) Which one of them fel...

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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:14 am this games so confusing i dont know what to do

What do you need help doing

Lacran

I want to have space law amended to remove the part of not bringing up space law to admins. Especially after members changes. Following space law can and has been used in appeals and ahelps to explain conduct that could be seen as possibly rulebreaking. It should be amended to establish space law i...

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I want to have space law amended to remove the part of not bringing up space law to admins. Especially after members changes. Following space law can and has been used in appeals and ahelps to explain conduct that could be seen as possibly rulebreaking. It should be amended to establish space law is...

Lacran

I've personally never had this issue, there are a lot of people who hang around each other for sure but its pretty obvious they ain't doing it because it'll make them harder to target. Antags have plenty of tools at their disposal to take on groups as is. Kind of seems counter intuitive to say we s...

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Is this still happening?

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most heavier armors and modsuits already slow you down. What would this affect outside of the sec vest?

Lacran

I think the only person that doesnt believe in a sinful run is sinfulbliss himself i would win so fast it would make your head spin :roll: i dont have the time for it now, but more importantly ive always found a candidate i support wholeheartedly so why run against someone that i want to win? but i...

Lacran

The main rules apply to ALL servers, if you don't want the main rules to apply on LRP like they do on MRP and vice versa LRP needs its own ruleset. They do, but how admins enforce the rules differ. You're probably unfamiliar with the idea of a Manuelmin coming to Sybil or Terry and being The Bigges...

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Because we should have the best candidates for the position of headmin regardless of server affiliation. Someone who has played and observed 3 rounds of LRP is not fit to make server-altering policy decisions about LRP. Someone who has played 3 rounds of MRP is not fit to make server-altering polic...

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the 2/3 MRP headmins are going to hostvote someone who aligns with their values - another MRP headmin. Okay so that's 1 confirmed MRP headmin. For us to have an MRP headmin in the first place they needed to have had either the host or former LRP headmins pick them (as its been historically LRP domi...

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smh the roleplayers are ruining the game once again let's make the process less democratic to stop them the process is not democratic and that is the problem sinfulbliss has with it. His proposed changes is to just restrict the choices, which is less democratic than what we currently have. His crit...

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words MRP candidates do have certain advantages, but its not manuel's responsibility to have a less tight-knit server or hire less decent admins. It's the community's responsibility to make sure the headmins adequately represent the community, admins and players alike. If 66% of the community prefe...

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words MRP candidates do have certain advantages, but its not manuel's responsibility to have a less tight-knit server or hire less decent admins. LRP likes being chaotic and conflicting, but that also means that its incredibly hard to represent LRP, or for LRP candidates to have a platform with eno...

Lacran

Kendrick you are being a little baby, a little baby boy

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I don't think you should view you failing as an trialmin as an opportunity to backseat other admins that already take more responsibility for their actions than you do. ive been arm chairing before i even had the purple name. my trial was extended partly due to me having opinions on other bans/deci...

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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:05 am i got baldur gate

someone tell me what to do

roleplay

Lacran

I actually agree here, keep it short and sweet.

Lacran

all's well that end's well? i don't understand the week ban, though. seems petty. especially when the ban and appeal in general was fumbled so badly. not that i think they're exactly a golden star example of a citizen. just really sucks that this ban is making me sympathize with Person Who Sends 7 ...

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BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:20 am The solution is simple, ban static names. A character is supposed to be a character, not a representation of OOC you.

A static character isn't an automatic self insert.

Lacran

That's why we have straight jackets yeah?

Lacran

I summoned the ogres during the raid on the grove because I was losing. They proceeded to attack my allies turning them hostile.

Lacran

Holy SHIT what a horrible ban. And backed by a headmin too! Y’all have completely lost sight of rule 8 at this point, it’s almost comical. I didn't think this qualified as ERP at all. I'm not making my 2D space man fuck another 2D space man. I said send nudes. You all are acting like I opened pando...

Lacran

Sure but you didn't ask me to stop at all. After I said I thought it was funny, you said "you know what else is funny?" then banned me. You say that I wasn't remorseful in the conversation, but there wasn't even a conversation to be had in the first place. Also I'd prefer if you didn't ma...

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I don't think there's much to gain from murder bone pirates. Currently pirates are pretty weak and get their ship swarmed, which is irrelevant to murderboning. In the situations where the crew can't or don't deal with them having them indiscriminately murder and bombard the station sounds extremely ...

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Yeah good on isra for dealing with it maturely and with humility

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also does anyone know where the fuck people thinking the HoS has any right to say who does and who does not get executed came from??? i'm like 94% sure that that's the captain's job and theirs alone??? There's a rule 3 precedent under chain of command: The internal chain of command for security is ...

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Roleplay Rule 3 Precedent for disobeying an order: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules#RP_Rule_3_Precedents You are allowed to disobey a superior's order with appropriate in-character roleplay reasoning. Complete disregard for the chain of command as a member of security is not tolerated. Security ru...

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Admins need to get a more coherent metric for reform. Maia rontegen back when she first started playing was a dumbass, they were clueless and super volatile and got into trouble A LOT, but they did improve. I remember dealing with them when I played HoS and I can definitely affirm a gradual and very...

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that’s why spacelaw usually says “perma/capital punishment” as options. Space Law isn't rules enforced. Even on MRP. ...and executions should usually be authorized by HOS/Cap outside of very extreme circumstances That's Space Law. See above. I don't think it's wrong to execute difficult prisoners w...

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Killing three prisoners after a break out because it's revs and the station is going to shit doesn't sound like play to win, that's a pretty normal situation to use lethal force.

Interested to see isras take.

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It still reads as cringe as it did when they first did it. I don't think imitates really grasps much social nuance.

Lacran

Talk shit get hit, simple as. You don't get to defend yourself over saying a low effort slur, maybe don't be racist? What do you think will happen if you start acting like a gorilla with rabies over someone calling you a slur in real life? Do you think that person will just stop defending herself b...

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I feel like the rule that allows nonantags to do whatever they want to antagonists just doesn't serve an interesting purpose to this game. It should just be straight up removed. They should be treated based on what they've done, or what they reasonably could do. If they reveal any anti-NT stuff lik...

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romance games are weird i played the game for 3 hours and already know shadowheart is my future wife very nervous about the game the first act will be absolute perfection as its had years of playtesting and tuning, but i have a bad feeling the remaining acts will be drastically reduced in quality a...

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It would be only used to break character and mald.

Even deadchat voicechat would be super cringe.

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Would it make sense to allow it proving there's valid IC reasoning? Like aligning with cult because it actually furthers a goal instead of it just being funny? This would more align with RP rule 5. Maybe not allow it in situations where they are joining the side that is obviously going to win though.

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Virescent bud, there's no way you can spin this that doesn't make you look dumb to an unbiased observer. The only way to lessen the mistakes you've made is to learn from them.

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ekaterina wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:52 pm
Lacran wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:13 am Its a social norm that people trust and percieve you diferently based on your personal opinions
Where? Definitely not where I live. I hope you realise not every place views these things the same way.

What country do you live in that doesn't do this? Are you the only citizen?

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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:59 am my ban is up and i got flashed by a rev when i joined again

Crag I hate to break it to you but that's gonna happen sometimes. If you don't like that I guess you could get sunglasses or ask for a mindshield roundstart.

Lacran

Its a basic social norm. What is? Its a social norm that people trust and percieve you diferently based on your personal opinions, and will treat you differently due to them. This will impact you getting positions within a community. Its why people don't understand your surprise. Because you values...

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Discrimination on the basis of political opinion is illegal in my jurisdiction, why would you expect that I'd think it normal or be used to it (including its spessman equivalent)? Because employment law doesn't extend to being an unpaid jannie in a community. Its a basic social norm. The word is, d...

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Timber isn't trying to discourage ingame racism, they are trying to discourage people's actual RL racism leaking into the game. It's good to see a reasonable argument presented at last. There's nothing wrong with this goal, but there is something very wrong with the way he's going about it. Its har...

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Racism skill issue. if you gotta lean on ligger you gotta up your lizard hating game. The thing is I don't hate liggers, the same way I don't hate plasmemes or sillycones. Calling a lizard a "ligger" is no different to me to calling a plasmaman a "plasmeme" or calling borgs &quo...

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Racism skill issue. if you gotta lean on ligger you gotta up your lizard hating game.

Lacran

Moving on, the handling admin stated that me taking the MODsuit goes under the Capital crimes because I apparently stole an item of high value. Not only does the law not mention the modsuit, it also states "when in doubt use common sense when you see certain items that are stolen that can caus...

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Maxipat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:20 pm Antags are most of the time weaker than crew, even in 1v1 fights, maybe except cult and ascended heretics. And even then, a good body toss is enough to fuck them, no matter how strong they are

That makes literally no sense at all.

What advantage does a lone crew member have against a line antag?

Lacran

Bad idea, doesn't add anything to the lore or immersion of the setting. You don't need to invent a gun with 0 historical relevance in-lore so that it can replace a gun that actually exists. If they both fill the same niche anyway. Mosins are still in service in some militaries. People buy and use th...

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It's a chemist job ban, not a chemistry mechanic ban. joins as an assistant, gets a chemist I.D from the HoP proceed to dress as a chemist, with chemist access and starts doing chemistry Cool strawman. Because going into chemistry to get thermite to bust into the malf AI's sat, for example, is tota...

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"wtf guys why i get banned i only had job ban from chemistery man but i wasn't chemtree man I just got chembistry access from the HOOP???????? ADRMIN ABUUUSEEE!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?" - Equivalent example You think you'd give whatever job you were banned from a wide berth considering that the a...

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