Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hardsuit

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Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hardsuit

Post by Zilenan91 » #121735

Usually most miners will buy at least one of these and it'll just kinda sit in their bags waiting to be used, taking up space. It would be nice if they could just combine them into their hardsuit to save the hassle.
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Xhuis » #121761

On that note, why not remove mining jetpacks altogether and give their hardsuits inbuilt jetpacks? Engineering hardsuits already have the same thing, as do blood-red hardsuits and atmos hardsuits.
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #121763

Xhuis wrote:On that note, why not remove mining jetpacks altogether and give their hardsuits inbuilt jetpacks? Engineering hardsuits already have the same thing, as do blood-red hardsuits and atmos hardsuits.
Because jetpacks are a reward for doing well, since they dont actually need the buggers.
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Gun Hog » #121764

Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
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Post by Bombadil » #121767

Gun Hog wrote:Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
You can...

but it needs to be on your back to do anything
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Gun Hog » #121779

Bombadil wrote:
Gun Hog wrote:Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
You can...

but it needs to be on your back to do anything

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	//Do we have a working jetpack
	if(istype(back, /obj/item/weapon/tank/jetpack) && isturf(loc)) //Second check is so you can't use a jetpack in a mech
		var/obj/item/weapon/tank/jetpack/J = back
		if((movement_dir || J.stabilization_on) && J.allow_thrust(0.01, src))
			return 1
	if(istype(wear_suit, /obj/item/clothing/suit/space/hardsuit) && isturf(loc)) //Second check is so you can't use a jetpack in a mech
		var/obj/item/clothing/suit/space/hardsuit/C = wear_suit
		if(C.jetpack)
			if((movement_dir || C.jetpack.stabilization_on) && C.jetpack.allow_thrust(0.01, src))
				return 1
Poor code if you ask me. Anyway, you could have a check for the jetpack in suit storage as well. Or simply let the miner slap the jetpack into the suit to give it an internal one. Requires no change in jetpack code that way.
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Post by Scott » #121786

Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.

So no to all.
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Post by Bombadil » #121799

Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.

So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?


Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
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Post by Scott » #121800

Bombadil wrote:
Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.

So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?


Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
Exactly for what purpose would you remove gravity from the asteroid, genius?
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Post by Gun Hog » #121813

Scott wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.

So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?


Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
Exactly for what purpose would you remove gravity from the asteroid, genius?
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Stan_Studnick » #121817

Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.

So no to all.
"I don't actually play miner but I hate the idea of anyone actually enjoying themselves so I don't want any of this."

That's the subtext I see in your post. If you did play miner you'd know the really good selection requires either a walk in zero gravity or essentially mining out the entire asteroid.

EDIT: Actually I just had a thought, anyone on a really slow connection that is more or less stuck playing roles like this has a really hard time killing the wildlife on the asteroid. So it's either EVA or the severe risk of being put out of the round because everyone forgets you exist and doesn't think to look for you if you die.
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Saegrimr » #121819

I think the built-in jetpack thing is fucking stupid for everybody.

At least the "put it in suit storage" is a good idea. I vaguely remember the Void jetpacks being able to fit there, at least on the Void suit maybe.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #121874

Saegrimr wrote:I think the built-in jetpack thing is fucking stupid for everybody.

At least the "put it in suit storage" is a good idea. I vaguely remember the Void jetpacks being able to fit there, at least on the Void suit maybe.

The jetpacks fit in your suit storage, but if you put that there, there's no more space for your oxygen tank except just awkwardly fumbling with it in your hands, and if you get stunned or drop it you're fucked. Also, if I'm not wrong, I think there is a bug that jetpacks in the suit storage slot don't actually work, they need to be on your back or else you just float regularly in space with jetpack particles behind you doing nothing. It might have been fixed.
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by PKPenguin321 » #121877

jetpacks not working when put in suit storage was removed because it was considered to be a bug, the reasoning being the drawback to jetpacks was the sacrifice of the back slot
now that we have inbuilt jetpacks anyways this point is kinda moot
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Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard

Post by Zilenan91 » #121880

Basically yeah, but having to hold your oxygen tank in your hands is NOT a worthy trade off to holding it in your suit, if you drop it, you're dead kiddo.
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Post by DaemonBomb » #121882

Well, you could put it in your pocket and keep the mining satchel in your bag, and just leave the backpack window open for easy access to said satchel. That way you could keep the jetpack in your exosuit, your pick on your belt slot, your oxygen in one pocket, and your mining scanner in the other.
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Post by Saegrimr » #121886

Zilenan91 wrote:Basically yeah, but having to hold your oxygen tank in your hands is NOT a worthy trade off to holding it in your suit, if you drop it, you're dead kiddo.
Pocket for emergency tanks (which last fucking forever anyway) and belt slot for larger tanks. If you have an important belt of some kind, they all fit in your backpack as well for the time being.

It's more about the option to do so than forcing everybody to use the suit storage.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #121894

I don't know if emergency oxygen tanks fit in pockets anymore, but I know they fit in the belt slot. Either way, as a miner, you're probably gonna have your pickaxe on your belt so that's out of the question, and if they're in your backpack, I don't know if they're still connected to your internals.
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Post by newfren » #121900

Emergency oxygen tanks still fit in pockets, it's just the blue ones don't really last long enough for a decent mining round. Although actually miners probably get yellow ones? I dunno it's been a long time since I checked a miner's internal box.
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Post by Zilenan91 » #121902

I don't think miners get yellow ones
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Post by Saegrimr » #121904

Yes, they get yellows.
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