tgui random airlock wires
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tgui random airlock wires
Are the tgui wires WIP? Because:
Really? 50 shades of green?
yellowgreen - greenyellow - lime - limegreen - lightseagreen.
What's wrong with the former plain 'black', 'yellow' and 'red' wires.
And was randomizing the wires necessary? It's bad enough to find the right wire in a stress situation as it is, but now the green wire you are looking for is in a random position on every airlock, burried inbetween ten other green-ish wires.
Really? 50 shades of green?
yellowgreen - greenyellow - lime - limegreen - lightseagreen.
What's wrong with the former plain 'black', 'yellow' and 'red' wires.
And was randomizing the wires necessary? It's bad enough to find the right wire in a stress situation as it is, but now the green wire you are looking for is in a random position on every airlock, burried inbetween ten other green-ish wires.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Randomizing the wire order doesn't make any sense, adds no real depth or strategy, and is just annoying. Airlocks use standard designs, and even NT isn't that cheap.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Order isn't supposed to be randomized I think, that's a bug.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Hahaha what
Is this a joke
Is this a joke
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Make a big list of every single crayon color and have the game pick some from a list at the start of each round to use in wire colors, IMO.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
assistants screaming about mocasssin wires is funny, it stays as-is with the colors
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
>floral white
>INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS
>linen
those three are almost the same colour
actually you know what would weed out the casuals
have a box that shows the colour but don't actually have the colour name typed out for display for each wire
make spessmen not only remember what colour is what wire but then randomize the wire order, so they have to be really good at differentiating between colours like floral white and INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS during an emergency
please do this
>INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS
>linen
those three are almost the same colour
actually you know what would weed out the casuals
have a box that shows the colour but don't actually have the colour name typed out for display for each wire
make spessmen not only remember what colour is what wire but then randomize the wire order, so they have to be really good at differentiating between colours like floral white and INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS during an emergency
please do this
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Make order not randomized because that makes 0 sense.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
How the fuck do wirecutters mend wires anyway.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
yesimblyings wrote:>floral white
>INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS
>linen
those three are almost the same colour
actually you know what would weed out the casuals
have a box that shows the colour but don't actually have the colour name typed out for display for each wire
make spessmen not only remember what colour is what wire but then randomize the wire order, so they have to be really good at differentiating between colours like floral white and INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS during an emergency
please do this
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
So what was wrong with the old colours again?
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Electrical wires in airlocks seem to be quite simple, barring the AI control wire, so I imagine you simply strip the insulation from both ends and wind them together.Saegrimr wrote:How the fuck do wirecutters mend wires anyway.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
You probably don't even need to do that, the "insulation" is bad enough that if you touch the outside of the wires you get shocked anyway. Probably just grab two wire ends, twist, and then use the hand-end of the wirecutter joints to crimp them together.
Speaking of which, wirecutters aren't insulated either. What do they buy the red stuff for?
Speaking of which, wirecutters aren't insulated either. What do they buy the red stuff for?
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Red, red, red...who else uses red...could it be that our wiring and wirecutting insulation is actually delivered by THE SYNDICATE?! Though, uhh, admittedly the idea that security is a syndicate force is a little far-fetched given how fighty some of them are.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
In all seriousness, having a list of fifty different colors adds a level of annoyance without adding much else. It's pretty irritating.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
>lightgrey and lightgray two different wires in the same airlock
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Like so.Saegrimr wrote:How the fuck do wirecutters mend wires anyway.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Next time you see a bug, please report it so it can get fixed.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Does this make the wire locations the same?
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Well, could us plebs get some info on what stays and what is unintentional?neersighted wrote:Next time you see a bug, please report it so it can get fixed.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
Is wire randomization intended?
Are the dumb names and colours going to stay?
Why are there now like 8 wires on APCs, when APCs only have 3 functions (shortcircuit, AI control, unlocked interface)?
And why are wirecutters red?
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
wirecutters can be yellow too. I like to think that yellow wirecutters are just really sick red wirecutters
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Deepest loreZilenan91 wrote:wirecutters can be yellow too. I like to think that yellow wirecutters are just really sick red wirecutters
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Having random wires just punished people for not stealing yellow gloves round start, since they got something like a 50% per door to zap themselves, instead of a 50% once off.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
learn to read code you autists
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Maybe all wirecutters are actually oranges. And they are not insulated because they like to troll you.Zilenan91 wrote:wirecutters can be yellow too. I like to think that yellow wirecutters are just really sick red wirecutters
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Wire randomization is not intended, a list was being shuffled twice.Actionb wrote:Well, could us plebs get some info on what stays and what is unintentional?neersighted wrote:Next time you see a bug, please report it so it can get fixed.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
Is wire randomization intended?
Are the dumb names and colours going to stay?
Why are there now like 8 wires on APCs, when APCs only have 3 functions (shortcircuit, AI control, unlocked interface)?
And why are wirecutters red?
Colors are here to stay unless someone provides me with a better list. They need to be named CSS colors, and I need around ~25 of them.
I asked for a list before but no one replied, so I just used all of them.
APCs have dud wires as do many things. I believe I kept the numbers about the same as before, might have raised some to be round numbers. Consider them fluff.
Maybe wirecutters are orange.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
plz fix
i've got eye problems and finding the right wire was difficult enough already
that ui has always been shitty and this, while making it prettier, didn't improve its usability
i've got eye problems and finding the right wire was difficult enough already
that ui has always been shitty and this, while making it prettier, didn't improve its usability
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
the same colours always correspond to the same action by the way, it's just the order that's shuffled.
still very obnoxious
still very obnoxious
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
The UI is temporary, we're working on a 'clickable' interface based on wire graphics. The main issue is coloring wires; I need to write code to do it serverside because of IE8.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Won't that make hacking hell for people who are colorblind?
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weed out the weaklingsTechnoAlchemist wrote:Won't that make hacking hell for people who are colorblind?
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
I plan to include some sort of 'text' overlay that can be enabled via prefs. Like I said, its a lot of work and a ways off.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Red, Green, Blue, Navy, Black, Cyan, Lime, Indigo, Crimson, Silver, Gold, Yellow, White, Pink, Magenta, Violet, Turquoise, Brown, Orange, Purple, Teal.neersighted wrote:Colors are here to stay unless someone provides me with a better list. They need to be named CSS colors, and I need around ~25 of them.
I asked for a list before but no one replied, so I just used all of them.
APCs have dud wires as do many things. I believe I kept the numbers about the same as before, might have raised some to be round numbers. Consider them fluff.
Maybe wirecutters are orange.
Why would you ever need 25 wires at once? (And the wire lights are different too now, I think.)
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Some of those colors don't work well on dark backgrounds. Anyway, 25 is just for expandability (you never know!), and because its a nice round number.TheNightingale wrote:Red, Green, Blue, Navy, Black, Cyan, Lime, Indigo, Crimson, Silver, Gold, Yellow, White, Pink, Magenta, Violet, Turquoise, Brown, Orange, Purple, Teal.neersighted wrote:Colors are here to stay unless someone provides me with a better list. They need to be named CSS colors, and I need around ~25 of them.
I asked for a list before but no one replied, so I just used all of them.
APCs have dud wires as do many things. I believe I kept the numbers about the same as before, might have raised some to be round numbers. Consider them fluff.
Maybe wirecutters are orange.
Why would you ever need 25 wires at once? (And the wire lights are different too now, I think.)
I would make sure all your colors show up well against #272727 and #131313 before suggesting them.
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APCs don't have dud wires.neersighted wrote:Wire randomization is not intended, a list was being shuffled twice.Actionb wrote:Well, could us plebs get some info on what stays and what is unintentional?neersighted wrote:Next time you see a bug, please report it so it can get fixed.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
Is wire randomization intended?
Are the dumb names and colours going to stay?
Why are there now like 8 wires on APCs, when APCs only have 3 functions (shortcircuit, AI control, unlocked interface)?
And why are wirecutters red?
Colors are here to stay unless someone provides me with a better list. They need to be named CSS colors, and I need around ~25 of them.
I asked for a list before but no one replied, so I just used all of them.
APCs have dud wires as do many things. I believe I kept the numbers about the same as before, might have raised some to be round numbers. Consider them fluff.
Maybe wirecutters are orange.
2 Power wires
1 AI control
1 Interface lock.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
This reminds me of this old color test http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
do it at your own risk
however I like all the new colors, makes ss13 entertaining AND educational
edit: I scored 4
do it at your own risk
however I like all the new colors, makes ss13 entertaining AND educational
edit: I scored 4
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Malk they have like 6 wires in them now.Malkevin wrote:APCs don't have dud wires.neersighted wrote:Wire randomization is not intended, a list was being shuffled twice.Actionb wrote:Well, could us plebs get some info on what stays and what is unintentional?neersighted wrote:Next time you see a bug, please report it so it can get fixed.
I have a pull request up now to hopefully fix these issues.
Is wire randomization intended?
Are the dumb names and colours going to stay?
Why are there now like 8 wires on APCs, when APCs only have 3 functions (shortcircuit, AI control, unlocked interface)?
And why are wirecutters red?
Colors are here to stay unless someone provides me with a better list. They need to be named CSS colors, and I need around ~25 of them.
I asked for a list before but no one replied, so I just used all of them.
APCs have dud wires as do many things. I believe I kept the numbers about the same as before, might have raised some to be round numbers. Consider them fluff.
Maybe wirecutters are orange.
2 Power wires
1 AI control
1 Interface lock.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Vending machines also got more wires
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
All web development to DM devs it seems.PKPenguin321 wrote:snip
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
We had navy and black wires on a very dark background, and it wasn't a problem, because ... well, if you can't quite see the name of the wire on a first glance, it's most definitely 'black' or 'navy'.neersighted wrote: Some of those colors don't work well on dark backgrounds.
I would make sure all your colors show up well against #272727 and #131313 before suggesting them.
Aren't airlocks the 'objects' with the most functionality? And with 16 wires on them, they still have dud wires that do nothing while the only inaccessibly airlock function via hacking is enabling the emergency access override (disabling is done via pulsing IDscan wire).neersighted wrote:Anyway, 25 is just for expandability (you never know!), and because its a nice round number.
It really isn't easy to pick 25 colours that aren't too similar to each other...
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
it's just JS... lots and lots of JS.neersighted wrote:All web development to DM devs it seems.PKPenguin321 wrote:snip
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
I don't get why we are making hacking more obnoxious, it was fine before.
Dud wires suck and serve no purpose but to annoy people.
Dud wires suck and serve no purpose but to annoy people.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
Dud wires did have a point actually, if you were manually sabotaging a door you could cut a bunch of dead wires to make people have to guess on what wire was the right one to repair but if they had gloves they'd just repair all of them anyways so I guess it was kinda pointless.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
How do dud wires affect guessing, if you hit a dud wire you just guess again.Zilenan91 wrote:Dud wires did have a point actually, if you were manually sabotaging a door you could cut a bunch of dead wires to make people have to guess on what wire was the right one to repair but if they had gloves they'd just repair all of them anyways so I guess it was kinda pointless.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
I guess the dud wires are so random greyshits don't grab a mutlitool and screwdriver and start pulsing shit until they can't anymore. Makes it take longer and make them more likely to hit the shock wire rather than a useful one.
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Re: tgui random airlock wires
It literally does nothing to the probability of hitting the shock wire or a useful one and the fact that you think it does confuses me.
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