Security Population & Competence

[Ezel]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Test no Security for a week.

No greytide for a week

[Armhulen]

Test no Security for a week.

No greytide for a week

more of a player thing than an actual physical thing.

[Malkevin]

I'm actually wondering if HG removing space law might've been a good thing.
Maybe space law is actually too restrictive as its written.

I mean one of the most annoying things that can happen is botanists throwing a fuck ton of bananas or tomatoes in a hallway making a huge slipping hazard.
Technically this is grand sabotage and is definitely deserving tossing in the magma but space law doesn't outright state this so the shittler is going to complain (but fuck him, throw him in the magma and go about your day) and other book thumpers are going to go "but space law says..." - thats why I started saying "I wrote space law" in character, because I was getting tired of mongoloids taking it as gospel.


Does security really need to faff about wasting a ton of time with timed sentences when a severe beating and throwing out back would suffice and get the job done quicker, hammer the point across better?
Does security really need to limit itself to ten minutes for first offender shitters? Why not just straight up execute them on the gulag?

I also make a point of not holding people for no reason, especially as Warden.

If someone was set to arrest and they get tagged and brought in I will ask over the sec radio why they were set to arrest. I will do this a couple times. If no one can be fucked to respond to me then out the door they go, not worth wasting my time over

This is fine, so long as you pay attention to sec radio AT ALL TIMES - one of your duties as warden is to keep sec records up to date when officers radio in about a shittler that escaped.
I honestly think things were better in ye olde days before we had remote arrest status sec huds, back when we had to make a request over the radio for someone (the warden) to set someone to arrest, because at least then you'd hear the officer say who needed to be arrested and what their crime was.
Might not work these days considering the other day I told my sec team I was going to give them a tracking implant, then every single officer went "hurr duhh I'm already implanted" despite me restating several times I was giving them a tracker.... apparently glancing at red text radio messages is too fucking hard for most of the septics.

[WarbossLincoln]

If someone was set to arrest and they get tagged and brought in I will ask over the sec radio why they were set to arrest. I will do this a couple times. If no one can be fucked to respond to me then out the door they go, not worth wasting my time over

That's a big one for me as warden too. I usually announce over radio at the start of the round that if you arrest someone you need to radio to me what they did. Some officers want to brig the crook themselves, some want the warden to do it. I'm fine with either but you need to clearly state why you arrested the guy. If not I'm letting the guy go as long as he isn't toting a revolver or something like that.

[onleavedontatme]

Does security really need to limit itself to ten minutes for first offender shitters? Why not just straight up execute them on the gulag?

he playerbase has finally devolved into the h-u-g-box memetards

basically anything malkevin ever posts about security

No shit the crew doesn't treat you nicely.

"You're a bunch of retarded animals that need to be culled, why won't you respect me?"

[Malkevin]

Does security really need to limit itself to ten minutes for first offender shitters? Why not just straight up execute them on the gulag?

he playerbase has finally devolved into the h-u-g-box memetards

basically anything malkevin ever posts about security

No shit the crew doesn't treat you nicely.

"You're a bunch of retarded animals that need to be culled, why won't you respect me?"

Can you honestly look at todays playerbase and not think of them as anything other than retarded animals?

Seriously, if we had poop in this codebase the hallways would be covered in shit constantly.

TG is the new goon station

[WarbossLincoln]

I realized I've never actually played on Basil before. Is the sec experience much different there?

[paprika]

>Make shitty grief lottery gamemodes
>every new gamemode added is another fucking bullshit thing that pushes the envelope for crap that sec has to look out for or die a short death because of all the horridly unbalanced bullshit added (!stands!, thanks kor)
>get bootyblasted the security playerbase is shrinking and turning more hostile on average

Now I'm not one to jerk off security furries but this is pretty unreasonable, it's very clear their autism is a result of their environment, even I can admit that much now.

It seems like none of you want security, just remove it, let people fight traitors with crowbars and department shit like it should be. Security isn't /tg/ culture anyway, if anything all it does is encourage antaghunting and make the game boring as fuck and a taserfest that needs to end in death or cuff+perma.

Perma is shit. Sec would behead traitors if given the chance. The only reason perma exists is so sec isn't butchering valids and has a more 'humane' way to take people out of the roudn with a tiny chance of escape (and if there is any chance of escape larger than that, it gets removed or metagamed constantly). Axe sec for the good of the sec players, the antag rollers, and the general crew. Gang might actually be fun, who knows. Also remember to remove rev from the rotation when you do this or it will be a nightmare. Sec players can probably find solace in antag hunting as an assistant or a head of staff.

[Scott]

Does security really need to limit itself to ten minutes for first offender shitters? Why not just straight up execute them on the gulag?

he playerbase has finally devolved into the h-u-g-box memetards

basically anything malkevin ever posts about security

No shit the crew doesn't treat you nicely.

"You're a bunch of retarded animals that need to be culled, why won't you respect me?"

Can you honestly look at todays playerbase and not think of them as anything other than retarded animals?

Seriously, if we had poop in this codebase the hallways would be covered in shit constantly.

TG is the new goon station

Those retarded animals also play sec.

[Zellion]

Remove timed cells, sec now sends criminals aka grey tiders to medbay with broken legs. This will fix all the problems we experience I'm sure.

[Ezel]

Remove timed cells, sec now sends criminals aka grey tiders to medbay with broken legs. This will fix all the problems we experience I'm sure.

Add splints

[oranges]

TG is the new goon station

>TG

>TG

yeah, it's a new goon thanks to people like you

[Malkevin]

Fuck off /pedant/

[oranges]

>>>/digg/

[paprika]

it literally is TGstation

we don't even use 4chan boards anymore, we have a fake image board and spend most of our time shitposting on the forums and adding fucking undertale references

this server and codebase are not /tg/ so just accept it

[Tornadium]

it literally is TGstation

we don't even use 4chan boards anymore, we have a fake image board and spend most of our time shitposting on the forums and adding fucking undertale references

this server and codebase are not /tg/ so just accept it

The name is still TGStation, If you're that fucking triggered change the god damn name then. You can't blame people for referring to the server by it's fucking name.

[onleavedontatme]

I want digg to leave

[Lumbermancer]

No.

[PKPenguin321]

wake me up

[paprika]

yeah i love all that sweet /tg/ content like stupid megaman villain clockwork robots or jojo's bizarre /a/dventure stands, as well as the hugbox digg mentality and administration that has maybe a handful of people who know what they're doing and the rest just want authority

you sure proved me wrong by posting a screenshot kor!

[Incomptinence]

Paprika complaining about hug box God please save me am I losing my mind?

[Saegrimr]

Not enough horse pussy and kobold maids for paps.

LITERALLY A JOJOS QUEST THREAD ON THE FRONT PAGE

[ShadowDimentio]

[Wyzack]

Tg has been doing Jojo threads every Sunday since forever

[paprika]

I love this meme where none of my arguments have been refuted once again because memeing to look cool is way more important than addressing a serious issue with the codebase because it's easier to deal with later when everyone is 5000x more upset

Seriously though you can laugh at the notion that this server/codebase is "TG" all you want but the real fact is /vg/ and every single ss13 thread on /v/ and /tg/ thinks this server is a massive cucked hugbox for redditors, and you're not helping by going LE GO BACK TO digg HAHA LOOK HOW 'IN ON THE JOKE' I AM

[Takeguru]

Definite +1 to adding cutebolds though

[Malkevin]

Hey look, it's another thread brought wildly off topic by that faggot Oranges again

[oranges]

Sorry I accidentally posted something more interesting than the original topic of this shit thread.

Turns out that giving you a good roasting is a lot more fun than discussing something only steelpoint,actionb you and J_madison give two literal flying fucks about.

Maybe you guys could meet up IRL, call yourselves the four cucks of securitypocalypse. I'm sure you'd all go real well together and then later that night you could take turns cuffing each other up and ramming batons up your ass. Hell, maybe it would convince you all to stop bothering to get your authority boners in ss13 and we'd finally just be able to get on with playing the game.

[Steelpoint]

Forget it, I guess Kor was right that there's nothing else to be gained from this thread being left open.

Oranges, stop being a cunt though.

[MrStonedOne]

Abusing my forum admin powers to make a final point.

If the argument is valid, the argument is valid, the number of people who care about the argument is irrelevant, as is who those people are or their standing in the community.

If steelpoint has a point, then they have a point, if they don't then they don't.