HG Wants to Remove Standard Borgs

[oranges]

Bottom post of the previous page:

no you don't need a default stun

[Wyzack]

It is not unusual for AI to become subverted by a normal traitor who doenst have an emag, and now the borgs you get from this are pretty shit

At the same time i knew this was going to happen when people were making the peacekeeper borg. Secborgs were removed because people did not want silicons to get involved in violent conflict. The peacekeeper borg still exists to do this only much worse at it

[paprika]

The RD/captain/HoP subverting the AI and having massive control over the station with a legion of shitter stunbots using zero telecrystals because they had the access to do so is exactly why captain antag was removed and part of the reason secborgs were removed

Surely you can think of something more creative to do

[ShadowDimentio]

Why didn't people tell the hugbabies screeching about the borgs getting in the way of their murderboners to fuck off. If we had, then everything would still be roses and we wouldn't be climbing down this rope of constantly pandering game design around an assblasted minority of dunked players.

[paprika]

Why didn't people tell the hugbabies screeching about the borgs getting in the way of their murderboners to fuck off. If we had, then everything would still be roses and we wouldn't be climbing down this rope of constantly pandering game design around an assblasted minority of dunked players.

The minority here is secborg validhunters who get borged as soon as they don't get antag so they can be a piece of shit harmpolice

There's also the RD/roboticist players who do nothing but roll those jobs to get traitor and subvert borgs for easy mode.

This is a small but concentrated playerbase that is wholly cancerous and thankfully none of the people making these decisions care about what they think

[Incomptinence]

Dohoho so now we have established that people against this aren't always the cyborgs now they are all the RD/roboticists great great perfect. Also this isn't a secborg and people might fall different ways duh.

Can I know what all you borg detractors are playing so I can avoid the festering sores you turn your favourite jobs into?

[InsaneHyena]

Paprika is right about everything.

[Incomptinence]

If people are for or against whatever but the total removal was shut down and now we are onto another pull https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/18433.

Basically still stun removal for literal infants who want to toddle up to borgs and grief them with no consequences. Like since we haven't got a vtech epidemic I suppose that is why them having a melee stun would be so important to you.
Oh but it has marginal mediborg engiborg features.

[paprika]

WAHHH PEOPLE ARE GRIEFING MY OPTIONAL NON-HUMAN JOB #BORGLIVESMATTER REEEEEE FUCKING MEATBAGS

[firecage]

You know what? I don't even care anymore. This will get removed whether people want it to or not, whether people complain a lot, or fully support it. Heck, even if everyone opposes it, not like it will matter. So why even bother making this thread?

[ShadowDimentio]

So that when the dust settles and silicons are removed and everything still sucks I can say I fucking told you so.

[Zellion]

First they came for the secborgs, and I did not speak out for I did not play secborg.
Then they came for the stun batons, and I did not speak out for I did not play standard borg.
Then they came for the stuns, and I did not speak out for I did not stun.
Then they came for me, and there was no one to speak out.

Spoiler:

;^)

[PKPenguin321]

hey so i don't know if you guys know but the standard borg isn't getting removed that PR got closed

they are getting some new gear though, so that they're more of a "jack of all trades master of none" type borg

[DemonFiren]

So long as they keep their stuns.

[Zellion]

So long as they keep their stuns.

They get zipties and no way to stun, so if you have someone else to stun for you, you can cuff them.

[InsaneHyena]

Or you can be robust and use soap.

[Zellion]

You can't drop your borg modules.

[InsaneHyena]

Who said anything about modules?

[Actionb]

You know what? I don't even care anymore. This will get removed whether people want it to or not, whether people complain a lot, or fully support it. Heck, even if everyone opposes it, not like it will matter. So why even bother making this thread?

This forum is like a reality tv show. It's fun if you love trash and dumb drama.
Everyone can be a Gordon Ramsay.

[ShadowDimentio]

That guy has real talent unlike most people here

[firecage]

On a serious note though, can we remove peacekeeper borgs instead of standard borgs? Standard borgs are decent, not OP, and I don't even see the problem at all. Just people needlessly whining. Not even secborgs were that OP, they were could be easily dealt with.

Peacekeeper borgs on the other hand, are just bloody annoying, due to spamming cookies, that huge HUMAN HARM spam message, and them just making no sense at all. They are just a meme.

[Zilenan91]

They're a pointless meme now since they don't have bolas. They're likey going to stay though.

[dionysus24779]

Just remove everything and shut the servers down or turn it into a chat-server.

Seriously, the whole silicon nerfing is just so pathetic it's painful to watch.

[Luke Cox]

Get rid of the stun baton, and standard borgs are fine. Worst case scenario, nobody uses them.

Can we just remove HG instead?

[DemonFiren]

Can we just remove HG instead?

Dude, elections are on.