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Wizards Summoning X

Post by Durkel » #44978

Wizard aren't even trying anymore to do anything but summon shit. It was fun the first couple of times going through these rounds, but now it's just a monotonous cluster fuck of waiting twenty minutes to call the shuttle. I'm not even sure how to fix the problem besides limiting the amount of shit you can summon, but that's not going to stop it anyway.


Can we think about doing something about the spam 5x wizards? Maybe at least set it back to the round ending when the wizard dies?
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Re: Wizards Summoning X

Post by youngbuckliontiger » #45022

Wizard round ends when wizard dies even if they used that summoning event x5.
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Post by cedarbridge » #45045

youngbuckliontiger wrote:Wizard round ends when wizard dies even if they used that summoning event x5.
I'm taking you meant this as a suggestion because the odds of the round ending currently after x5 summon is pretty close to zero thanks to survivors.
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Re: Wizards Summoning X

Post by Incoming » #45067

It checks to see if there's any other antags, so if summon guns/magic was used the round won't end, but if only summon events was used then the round might end if the nations event hadn't run yet. That's why it's better to mix them to some degree.
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Re: Wizards Summoning X

Post by cedarbridge » #45088

Incoming wrote:It checks to see if there's any other antags, so if summon guns/magic was used the round won't end, but if only summon events was used then the round might end if the nations event hadn't run yet. That's why it's better to mix them to some degree.
Or just remove the round-extending property of wizard summons.
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Post by paprika » #45092

What if summon spells automatically called the shuttle with a 20~30 minute timer so the wizard had to actually get off his ass and do his objectives while the chaos is happening instead of laughing at everyone killing each other all round
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Post by Steelpoint » #45093

What paprika said.

Most of the time Wizard's that use a summon spell have no actual intention to accomplish their objectives, and I've never witnessed a Wizard win the round if they used a summon spell.
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Post by paprika » #45101

Really shouldn't be encouraging that kind of playstyle for wizards, it's almost as bad as 'friendly wizard' who ei naths everyone who doesn't go along with his gimmick and cries powrgamer when he gets dunked.
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Post by RG4 » #45115

paprika wrote:Really shouldn't be encouraging that kind of playstyle for wizards, it's almost as bad as 'friendly wizard' who ei naths everyone who doesn't go along with his gimmick and cries powrgamer when he gets dunked.
Last time there was a friendly wizard I shot him for of plasma,mutagen, and radium. Nothing says fuck you like becoming retarded and unable to use yours spells.
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Post by Incomptinence » #45116

Oh no the antag is SHARING!
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Post by Saegrimr » #45117

RG4 wrote:Last time there was a friendly wizard I shot him for of plasma,mutagen, and radium. Nothing says fuck you like becoming retarded and unable to use yours spells.
Last time there was a friendly wizard, I spawned another one.
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Post by whodaloo » #45120

Violaceus wrote:There should be a camera console in wizards den for wizards who want to provide fun for crew and watch the chaos.
If you want to observe the round there's a button for that that doesn't take up an antag slot.
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Post by miggles » #45130

Saegrimr wrote:
RG4 wrote:Last time there was a friendly wizard I shot him for of plasma,mutagen, and radium. Nothing says fuck you like becoming retarded and unable to use yours spells.
Last time there was a friendly wizard, I spawned another one.
its so nonsensical to me that you're allowed to be a friendly wizard despite the fact that literally nobody likes them and that admins have to do shit like this to make up for it
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Post by Incoming » #45133

Some wet blanket always calls the shuttle during a summoning wizard anyways, a force call seems redundant. The same goes for auto ending the round if antags still exist. Let the people have a little fun while the shuttle comes.

Playing wizard isn't only about winning or using an optimal load out. If it was I'd remove every spell that wasn't jaunt, el nath, and magic missile. Sometimes it's about shenanigans or self imposed challenges.

Maybe I could impose some sort of limiter on going full x5 on a single summoning spell, but I'm not even gonna consider it until I get some hard evidence that the spells are as overused as some people claim they are. The stat page tracks this, but no one has bothered to generate it in months so I can't get a good read on the scope of what's happening.
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Post by cedarbridge » #45140

Incoming wrote:Let the people have a little fun while the shuttle comes.
To be fair, this same kind of argument is used to justify literally everything and anything and is entirely subjective.
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Post by omnitricks » #45177

Implying summon magic x5 or summon guns x5 doesn't work for your objectives or survival. I actually do it because it works given time and patience and have succeeded because of it. The chaos I get to see is a bonus.
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Re: Wizards Summoning X

Post by paprika » #45184

miggles wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:
RG4 wrote:Last time there was a friendly wizard I shot him for of plasma,mutagen, and radium. Nothing says fuck you like becoming retarded and unable to use yours spells.
Last time there was a friendly wizard, I spawned another one.
its so nonsensical to me that you're allowed to be a friendly wizard despite the fact that literally nobody likes them and that admins have to do shit like this to make up for it
You know that if the moment admins started antag banning or encouraging people to go on mad wizard sprees and do their objectives, the wizards would cry OPPRESSING MY ROLEPLAY! which misses the entire point of the gamemode imo
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Post by miggles » #45303

paprika wrote:
miggles wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:
RG4 wrote:Last time there was a friendly wizard I shot him for of plasma,mutagen, and radium. Nothing says fuck you like becoming retarded and unable to use yours spells.
Last time there was a friendly wizard, I spawned another one.
its so nonsensical to me that you're allowed to be a friendly wizard despite the fact that literally nobody likes them and that admins have to do shit like this to make up for it
You know that if the moment admins started antag banning or encouraging people to go on mad wizard sprees and do their objectives, the wizards would cry OPPRESSING MY ROLEPLAY! which misses the entire point of the gamemode imo
p sure the whole point of giving a single person immense kill potential is so theyll kill people but idk
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Post by Incomptinence » #45320

Or just increase wizard probability so we can see more of both. Maybe talk to the host.
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Post by paprika » #45333

Wizards used to have a higher probability than anything else barring traitor and changeling (i think)

It was awful
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Post by Durkel » #45433

paprika wrote:Wizards used to have a higher probability than anything else barring traitor and changeling (i think)

It was awful
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Post by Cik » #46871

whodaloo wrote:
Violaceus wrote:There should be a camera console in wizards den for wizards who want to provide fun for crew and watch the chaos.
If you want to observe the round there's a button for that that doesn't take up an antag slot.
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Post by Steelpoint » #46875

Just use the Scything Orb, it lets you ghost out and watch the station from the safety of your lair.
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Post by cedarbridge » #46879

Steelpoint wrote:Just use the Scything Orb.
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Post by AnonymousNow » #49409

Summon X rounds are my single most enjoyable roundtype.

Then again, when I roll wizard, I usually make a wizard squad, and then maybe summon something to finish.
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