Oh god I love fulltile windows

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:24 am #44811

Bottom post of the previous page:

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Post by **lumipharon** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:50 am #44822

The transparent part in the middle looks really ugly when it's on top of a grille. (Well, it looks ugly in general...) A clean open square would be nicer.

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:58 am #44824

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Nienhaus · Post by **Nienhaus** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:46 am #44838

You guys should take a new image with the new glass breaking.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:16 am #44859

For free

Edit: Just gonna use my old overlays, if someone wants to make better ones they can, nien's didn't look too good on the new windows

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:29 am #44866

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Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:39 am #45124

One assistant with fire axe can decompress all those public hallways.

Sure, it can be done now, but with three times as many hits.

Random Players · Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:13 am

You.. haven't been paying attention, have you?

The full windows are going to have the same health as two side windows. Same amount of hits.

Also, assistants that do that should be arrested and/or banned.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:15 pm #45146

Random Players wrote:You.. haven't been paying attention, have you?

You.. have no idea what you're talking about, are you?

Let me enlighten you.

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/obj/item/weapon/twohanded/fireaxe/afterattack(atom/A as mob|obj|turf|area, mob/user as mob, proximity)
	if(!proximity) return
	if(A && wielded && (istype(A,/obj/structure/window) || istype(A,/obj/structure/grille))) //destroys windows and grilles in one hit
		if(istype(A,/obj/structure/window)) //should just make a window.Break() proc but couldn't bother with it
			var/obj/structure/window/W = A

			new /obj/item/weapon/shard( W.loc )
			if(W.reinf) new /obj/item/stack/rods( W.loc)

			if (W.dir == SOUTHWEST)
				new /obj/item/weapon/shard( W.loc )
				if(W.reinf) new /obj/item/stack/rods( W.loc)
		qdel(A)

In case you didn't notice

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//destroys windows and grilles in one hit

Random Players · Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:19 pm

So? That's a FIREAXE. Only on the bridge and Atmos.
Which a assistant (Which is what you said, not atmos techs) SHOULDN'T have access to. And as said, Assistants that do that should be arrested and/or banned.
I admit that I missed that you specified Fireaxe the first time, but the point still stands.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:32 pm #45151

Random Players wrote:So? That's a FIREAXE. Only on the bridge and Atmos.
Which a assistant (Which is what you said, not atmos techs) SHOULDN'T have access to. And as said, Assistants that do that should be arrested and/or banned.
I admit that I missed that you specified Fireaxe the first time, but the point still stands.

Anyone with fireaxe then.

Gee. That was kind of my point.

What point stands? That nobody will ever get a fire axe without being caught? That a laughable point.

Anyway, it's not a huge deal, especially considering that doing this now would also be pretty easy, but this change would make it three times easier and harder to repair properly (because grilles would still be there). Oh and with slow space it could become a nightmare.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:15 pm #45156

wow there is a single powerful item in the game and thus fulltile windows suck

in case you didnt notice, the fireaxe is a large item, has to be wielded, theres only two of them etc
repairing that window really isnt that hard.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:15 pm #45185

I'll just nerf fire axes if people are being dicks with them and using them for nothing but insta breaches.

Until then, I'd like to remind you all that intentionally causing breaches to space is a capital offense (grand sabotage) and worthy of permabrig, or if authorized; execution/borging.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Space_law#Capital_Crimes

No, I'm not kidding, it's just that breaches have been harder to make until now so it was rarely punished. Have fun security. Obviously this doesn't include breaching into space to get onto the shuttle when the doors are electrified so don't think you won't get jobbanned for lasering someone to death for that.

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:26 pm #45186

At no point did I say that fulltile windows suck. I just pointed out a potential problem.

And yeah, apparently clicking on the grille with glass will now produce a fulltile window under the grille, so repairing is all right.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:46 pm #45201

paprika wrote:I'll just nerf fire axes if people are being dicks with them

Oh boy here we go.

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:08 pm #45239

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Cheridan · Post by **Cheridan** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:50 pm #45254

Too opaque, I think. The fact that they conceal more of the grille makes them look stronger or thicker than the reinforced kind. The old sprites are very transparent, giving them a thinner weaker appearance.

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:12 pm #45262

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ExplosiveCrate · Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:12 pm

Perfect.

allura · Post by **allura** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:06 am #45316

i liked the first, bright one. theyre taken straight from goon and theyre very pretty

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:04 am #45326

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kosmos · Post by **kosmos** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:15 am #45327

Wow the current ones in game are beautiful!

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:01 am #45696

Supposed to make fixing windows easier, right?

I like how he just gave up and started walling it off.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:04 am #45699

Saegrimr wrote:Supposed to make fixing windows easier, right?

I like how he just gave up and started walling it off.

He could've literally just grabbed some reinforced glass and slapped it on the grilles.
That being said, I am enjoying how much easier it is to undo windows in the central halls now. No need to cut grilles or deconstruct multiple windows, just screwdriver/crowbar/screwdriver once and shove. Do this as an atmos tech and turn off the vents in the central hallways for hilarity. (only as an antag though)

ExplosiveCrate · Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:12 am

whodaloo wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:Supposed to make fixing windows easier, right?

I like how he just gave up and started walling it off.
He could've literally just grabbed some reinforced glass and slapped it on the grilles.

Literally the same thing would have happened.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:15 am #45706

ExplosiveCrate wrote:
whodaloo wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:Supposed to make fixing windows easier, right?

I like how he just gave up and started walling it off.
He could've literally just grabbed some reinforced glass and slapped it on the grilles.
Literally the same thing would have happened.

Well, eventually the area behind the grilles would've been so filled up with glass that he wouldn't be able to push them out anymore!

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:18 am #45707

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Post by **oranges** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:20 am #45709

Please make reinforced window deconstruction take about the same time it would to break it with a common weapon.

Thanks pap you promised to do it thanks.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:22 am #45710

oranges wrote:Please make reinforced window deconstruction take about the same time it would to break it with a common weapon.

Thanks pap you promised to do it thanks.

I think that's already the case, though? You can't just click + switch + click + switch + click + pull the way you used to be able to. There's a pretty significant time lag for each step in the deconstruction.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:44 am #45712

oranges wrote:Please make reinforced window deconstruction take about the same time it would to break it with a common weapon.

Thanks pap you promised to do it thanks.

I did, a year from now fucking owned lol :^))))

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:04 am #45729

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Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:31 am #45766

Intigracy wrote:Also if you have a screwdriver in one hand and glass in the other, click the grille with the glass, pageup to switch to screwdriver and click it real fast. There, it's not going to move.

But it's not instant any more, it takes some time.

AnonymousNow · Post by **AnonymousNow** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:41 pm #49129

I miss directional windows. They had the added bonus of being useful for making inset tunnels away from deliberate breaches, so that you can wind around and not immediately drain all the air from the room you needed to get into.

callanrockslol · Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:41 am

They weren't even hard to make you just had to click with reinforced glass on a grill.

firecage · Post by **firecage** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:20 pm #49301

Personally I dislike the delay with securing/unsecuring windows for the same reason I disliked the big table construction delays. It makes building stuff and building projects much, much more annoying.

Intigracy · Post by **Intigracy** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:30 pm #49566

You can still make directional windows, just click the glass in hand.

AnonymousNow · Post by **AnonymousNow** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:55 am #49657

Intigracy wrote:You can still make directional windows, just click the glass in hand.

But it doesn't fix windows that are already part of the station. I remember a time when you could shatter the outer pane of the escape shuttle's cockpit and hide away from spess in there without risking the shuttle's atmosphere.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:55 am #49699

Which was pretty dumb tbqh