Allow counterplay to Viruses
- Helios
- Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 5:07 pm
- Byond Username: Shodansbreak
Allow counterplay to Viruses
The problem with viruses is that players cannot really counter the virus, beyond going to the medbay and getting the cure.
There was/is a counterplay to the cryosting of Changeling, which was drinking a lot of coffee.
What I would suggest is adding items like cough drops and forehead cooling patches, which can be bought from vending machines. Players knocking down cough drops and coffee to overcome being sick makes intuitive sense, and would make people less angry about virology
There was/is a counterplay to the cryosting of Changeling, which was drinking a lot of coffee.
What I would suggest is adding items like cough drops and forehead cooling patches, which can be bought from vending machines. Players knocking down cough drops and coffee to overcome being sick makes intuitive sense, and would make people less angry about virology
- Farquaar
- Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:20 am
- Byond Username: Farquaar
- Location: Delta Quadrant
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
The counterplay to viruses is to avoid getting infected. This can be accomplished by wearing various PPE items scattered throughout medbay, by switching on internals, or by avoiding touching other crewmembers.
► Show Spoiler
- Helios
- Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 5:07 pm
- Byond Username: Shodansbreak
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
And the counterplay to various injuries caused by weapons is don't get hit. So it doesn't matter how bad those injuries are, or if they require someone else to heal them?
Yeah, yeah. I see how it is.
Just don't lose. ez
Yeah, yeah. I see how it is.
Just don't lose. ez
- Farquaar
- Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:20 am
- Byond Username: Farquaar
- Location: Delta Quadrant
- datorangebottle
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:53 am
- Byond Username: Datorangebottle
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Viruses as they stand are incredibly boring, because the only solution that guarantees you won't get infected(which is necessary at times, because some viruses are outstandingly lethal or obnoxious) is "wear a full biosuit and internals and stand in an empty, secluded room alone and away from everyone else" in a game about roleplay.
There's got to be some sort of counter to this.
There's got to be some sort of counter to this.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
- massa
- Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:20 am
- Byond Username: Massa100
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
random viruses are fine but virology aids is just atrocious, but i like virology and thing it is soul
mostly and explicitly and entirely the department itself, nothing about its effects on the game.
mostly and explicitly and entirely the department itself, nothing about its effects on the game.
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Simple vendor stuff to ameliorate the symptoms until medical gets their shit together and gets a cure? Sign me up.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- Striders13
- In-Game Admin Trainer
- Joined: Tue May 07, 2019 7:59 am
- Byond Username: Striders13
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Yeah, and that can make a good story. Hearing crewmembers beg to put them out of their misery on comms as the virus husks the last person working in medical is great. You don't have to stick yourself in every single thing that happens in a round for it to be considered "roleplay".datorangebottle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:15 pm Viruses as they stand are incredibly boring, because the only solution that guarantees you won't get infected(which is necessary at times, because some viruses are outstandingly lethal or obnoxious) is "wear a full biosuit and internals and stand in an empty, secluded room alone and away from everyone else" in a game about roleplay.
- datorangebottle
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:53 am
- Byond Username: Datorangebottle
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
A great story? Maybe. A great experience? Fuck no. "Playing" the game while there's a supervirus rampaging around the station is miserable and it makes me want to play something else. Sometimes I do.Striders13 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:00 am Yeah, and that can make a good story. Hearing crewmembers beg to put them out of their misery on comms as the virus husks the last person working in medical is great. You don't have to stick yourself in every single thing that happens in a round for it to be considered "roleplay".
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
-
- Forum Soft Banned
- Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:27 am
- Byond Username: Cacogen
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Certain symptoms already can be managed, coffee works for narcolepsy and chills for example.
Would be good if there was more stuff like this, particularly for annoying symptoms like catching on fire. Not sure if repeatedly putting the fire out counts, given it basically prevents you doing anything else.
Would be good if there was more stuff like this, particularly for annoying symptoms like catching on fire. Not sure if repeatedly putting the fire out counts, given it basically prevents you doing anything else.
- Shadowflame909
- Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:18 pm
- Byond Username: Shadowflame909
- Location: Think about something witty and pretend I put it here
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Stuff that temporarily cures specific symptoms and not the whole virus would be cool
It'd be like an expansion of cobby med. Take this pill that cures your virus's random Flaming Hot Body death BS in exchange for one that makes you drowsy. Or a pill that cures the random KO part of the virus, in exchange for being so amped up that you cannot hold weapons at all and are just dropping stuff randomly
It'd be like an expansion of cobby med. Take this pill that cures your virus's random Flaming Hot Body death BS in exchange for one that makes you drowsy. Or a pill that cures the random KO part of the virus, in exchange for being so amped up that you cannot hold weapons at all and are just dropping stuff randomly
► Show Spoiler
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Give us one that fucking stops coughing temporarily, I don't CARE what the downside is, I'll take it
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- FantasticFwoosh
- Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 pm
- Byond Username: FantasticFwoosh
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
They feed us poison (viruses)Shadowflame909 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:45 amStuff that temporarily cures specific symptoms and not the whole virus would be coolPandarsenic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:19 amGive us one that fucking stops coughing temporarily, I don't CARE what the downside is, I'll take it
It'd be like an expansion of cobby med. Take this pill that cures your virus's random Flaming Hot Body death BS in exchange for one that makes you drowsy. Or a pill that cures the random KO part of the virus, in exchange for being so amped up that you cannot hold weapons at all and are just dropping stuff randomly
So we buy their medicine (random medbay compounds)
But they ban our cure. (enclosed)
► Show Spoiler
Spoiler:
- cSeal
- Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 2:10 am
- Byond Username: O0cyann0o
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
This is a videogame I play to have fun. sitting in a room alone while people complain over comms that medical is full of morons so the super epic death virus someone released 10 minutes into the shift doesnt have a cure yet isnt funStriders13 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:00 am Yeah, and that can make a good story. Hearing crewmembers beg to put them out of their misery on comms as the virus husks the last person working in medical is great.
A lot of the super gamer death viruses people make will kill so quickly you literally cannot react, or will have additional effects like confusion, sleep, etc so that you already cant get help. Adding these counterplays would only be useful for intentionally low lethality viruses or random diseases. the only real counterplay to competent virology is to remove the entire subdepartment and permaban anyone with over 100 hours in it for being a confirmed shitterHelios wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:50 pm The problem with viruses is that players cannot really counter the virus, beyond going to the medbay and getting the cure.
There was/is a counterplay to the cryosting of Changeling, which was drinking a lot of coffee.
What I would suggest is adding items like cough drops and forehead cooling patches, which can be bought from vending machines. Players knocking down cough drops and coffee to overcome being sick makes intuitive sense, and would make people less angry about virology
- Nabski
- Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:42 pm
- Byond Username: Nabski
- Github Username: Nabski89
- Location: TN
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
I feel like cyan is mad at me for making him blind the other day. I guess I need to adminwho to make sure he's not online so he doesn't try to come up with ways to permaban me for playing a job he doesn't like.
- Nabski
- Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:42 pm
- Byond Username: Nabski
- Github Username: Nabski89
- Location: TN
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Okay more serious post on virology from the guy with too many virology hours.
I typically don't bother to vaccine myself before spreading a virus, because that's not as fun. If I catch it then I need to rush for a cure too.
How to avoid getting sick.
1. If it's airborne, you're going to get it but that means the cure is going to be something stupid easy like oil. Just walk to chemistry and get oil, then murder the virologist.
2. If it's spreading quickly, but people aren't having symptoms in a timely manner, good chance of on-contact. Don't fucking touch other people. No hugs, no handshakes, no shoving, no punching.
3. Otherwise (aka 95% of the time) practice Social distancing. No seriously, social distancing is your friend. Sneezing is cone based, so don't stand with people staring at your ugly mug. Coughing is a short radius around the person, so don't stand right next to them.
I typically don't bother to vaccine myself before spreading a virus, because that's not as fun. If I catch it then I need to rush for a cure too.
How to avoid getting sick.
1. If it's airborne, you're going to get it but that means the cure is going to be something stupid easy like oil. Just walk to chemistry and get oil, then murder the virologist.
2. If it's spreading quickly, but people aren't having symptoms in a timely manner, good chance of on-contact. Don't fucking touch other people. No hugs, no handshakes, no shoving, no punching.
3. Otherwise (aka 95% of the time) practice Social distancing. No seriously, social distancing is your friend. Sneezing is cone based, so don't stand with people staring at your ugly mug. Coughing is a short radius around the person, so don't stand right next to them.
- Farquaar
- Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:20 am
- Byond Username: Farquaar
- Location: Delta Quadrant
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
no way man that’s too complicated i’m just gonna ignore all the sneezing coughing and radio chatter and then complain when I get sick on the forumsNabski wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:19 pm I typically don't bother to vaccine myself before spreading a virus, because that's not as fun. If I catch it then I need to rush for a cure too.
How to avoid getting sick.
1. If it's airborne, you're going to get it but that means the cure is going to be something stupid easy like oil. Just walk to chemistry and get oil, then murder the virologist.
2. If it's spreading quickly, but people aren't having symptoms in a timely manner, good chance of on-contact. Don't fucking touch other people. No hugs, no handshakes, no shoving, no punching.
3. Otherwise (aka 95% of the time) practice Social distancing. No seriously, social distancing is your friend. Sneezing is cone based, so don't stand with people staring at your ugly mug. Coughing is a short radius around the person, so don't stand right next to them.
► Show Spoiler
- FantasticFwoosh
- Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 pm
- Byond Username: FantasticFwoosh
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
If we really are being serious now, devils advocate on a virus related current role i have played (Sentient Virus), curing a disease from a disease's perspective and not virology is that any silver bullet compound is a game over in due time, as the disease is expunged from the body rather than in real life, vaccines curtail a array of symptoms (usually penultimate one that allows the disease life cycle to continue, like leprosy being infectious from open sores caused by the disease.) from occuring.
I suppose this is also relatable to what kind of disease it is, you might not be immune from spreading it after first treatment if you've hardened your initial disease to require timed installments of vaccine, which is good for the antagonist who need to maintain driving goal-objectives, and likely the virologist who can plan a second disease to build upon the first as co-morbidity (first's inactive for coughing, but the violent top heavy second disease has no innate coughing to spread.)
I suppose this is also relatable to what kind of disease it is, you might not be immune from spreading it after first treatment if you've hardened your initial disease to require timed installments of vaccine, which is good for the antagonist who need to maintain driving goal-objectives, and likely the virologist who can plan a second disease to build upon the first as co-morbidity (first's inactive for coughing, but the violent top heavy second disease has no innate coughing to spread.)
Spoiler:
- Itseasytosee2me
- Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:14 am
- Byond Username: Rectification
- Location: Space Station 13
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
We already have a cough suppressing reagent, don't we? Could just bundle those up into drops and put them in the smoke vendors.
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
See you later
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Not seeing any sign of it in the wiki, at least not under Ctrl+F "Cough"Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:15 pm We already have a cough suppressing reagent, don't we? Could just bundle those up into drops and put them in the smoke vendors.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- Itseasytosee2me
- Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:14 am
- Byond Username: Rectification
- Location: Space Station 13
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
I was thinking of the "uplift smooth" cigs, which suppress coughing while smoked.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:21 pmNot seeing any sign of it in the wiki, at least not under Ctrl+F "Cough"Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:15 pm We already have a cough suppressing reagent, don't we? Could just bundle those up into drops and put them in the smoke vendors.
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
See you later
-
- Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:26 pm
- Byond Username: Valorium
- Location: Somewhere, I dunno.
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Menthol?Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was thinking of the "uplift smooth" cigs, which suppress coughing while smoked.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:21 pmNot seeing any sign of it in the wiki, at least not under Ctrl+F "Cough"Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:15 pm We already have a cough suppressing reagent, don't we? Could just bundle those up into drops and put them in the smoke vendors.
Native Manuellian and Shiptest admin. Ignore me.
Also the author of several drone adventures.
Also the author of several drone adventures.
- Itseasytosee2me
- Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:14 am
- Byond Username: Rectification
- Location: Space Station 13
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
think soValorium wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:37 pmMenthol?Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was thinking of the "uplift smooth" cigs, which suppress coughing while smoked.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:21 pmNot seeing any sign of it in the wiki, at least not under Ctrl+F "Cough"Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:15 pm We already have a cough suppressing reagent, don't we? Could just bundle those up into drops and put them in the smoke vendors.
- Sincerely itseasytosee
See you later
See you later
-
- Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:29 am
- Byond Username: ArcaneDefence
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Wait, are we able to just dispense this shit raw from the bar?
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
-
- Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:42 am
- Byond Username: Longestarmlonglaw
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Holy shit just play plasmeme lol
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
Update, yeah you can just poop this shit out of the dispenser or vend entire bottles of it.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:41 pm Wait, are we able to just dispense this shit raw from the bar?
In which case, I say HELL YEAH let's get Cough Drops that are just a few units of menthol and maybe some other ingredients for flavor or fun?
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
- Super Aggro Crag
- In Game PermaBanned
- Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:47 pm
- Byond Username: Super Aggro Crag
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
i dont know where the biosuits are on half the maps. make them easier to find
- Farquaar
- Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:20 am
- Byond Username: Farquaar
- Location: Delta Quadrant
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
They're in viro or right outside viroSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:18 pm i dont know where the biosuits are on half the maps. make them easier to find
► Show Spoiler
- datorangebottle
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:53 am
- Byond Username: Datorangebottle
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
I want a round where chemistry and the bar band together and make a shitton of cough drops of various flavors. Lemon, lime, etc.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:53 pmUpdate, yeah you can just poop this shit out of the dispenser or vend entire bottles of it.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:41 pm Wait, are we able to just dispense this shit raw from the bar?
In which case, I say HELL YEAH let's get Cough Drops that are just a few units of menthol and maybe some other ingredients for flavor or fun?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
- Pandarsenic
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:56 pm
- Byond Username: Pandarsenic
- Location: AI Upload
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
"But there's no virus out there yet"
"Don't worry, we already have virology working on it"
"Wait no--"
"Don't worry, we already have virology working on it"
"Wait no--"
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
-
- Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:29 am
- Byond Username: ArcaneDefence
Re: Allow counterplay to Viruses
I have no intention of coder spriting thatPandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:53 pmI say HELL YEAH let's get Cough Drops that are just a few units of menthol and maybe some other ingredients for flavor or fun?Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:41 pm Wait, are we able to just dispense this shit raw from the bar?
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot]