[POLL] Remove the superpower virus?

[Bombadil]

Its still the most blatantly op virus in the game and totally fucks everything up if viro makes it airborn its essentially a griefing disease. Hulks everywhere breaking shit

[Gun Hog]

If you are giving it out, you are using it incorrectly. Give it to the Geneticist and have him use it to find power blocks faster.

[kosmos]

If you are giving it out, you are using it incorrectly. Give it to the Geneticist and have him use it to find power blocks faster.

That is true, but it still breaks the game entirely when the whole station is turning into hulks for 15 seconds at a time.

Either remove it entirely (genetic mutations sound more like a job for geneticists), or make it give you only one superpower that sticks with you forever or at the very least make it impossible to transmit through anything other than a syringe.

[lumipharon]

Can viros just be take OOC responsibility for literally all the bullshit that happens EVERY TIME they release a dnaide virus?

Like seriously, holy fuck, being sec when literally every shitter and his dog is randomly getting hulk and just smashing the shit out of everything is fucking gay as dicks.

[Lumbermancer]

Receiving superpowers because you got sneezed at is fucking stupid. Remove.

Half-measure one, make it transmittable only by blood i.e. injection (easier to keep virologists accountable).

Half-measure two, make superpowers last for a limited time, after which virus gets purged by antibodies that develop immunity (limits damages).

Or remove.

[Gun Hog]

If I were to nerf this...I would make DNA Aide do the following things:
- Clean the carrier's SE
- Set the power blocks above 800 but below their manifest threshold (allowing genetics to identify the power blocks and create their own power SE from the knowledge)
- Heal cloneloss damage (meaning you could give this virus to a person instead of cryo after cloning).

Used in a heal virus, this would reduce the effects of radiation (Tox Filter heals the damage, DNA Aide prevents mutations)

In addition to this, I would majorly buff the DNA Saboteur symptom to apply one disability per cycle, until all bad blocks are active. A single disability is usually nothing more than a mild annoyance. Having several or all of them is a true nightmare that only a Changeling Geneticist has the power to inflict. Essentially, if you catch this virus and leave it untreated for 10-15 minutes, it will leave you a crippled, blind, gibbering mess.

[Bombadil]

If I were to nerf this...I would make DNA Aide do the following things:
- Clean the carrier's SE
- Set the power blocks above 800 but below their manifest threshold (allowing genetics to identify the power blocks and create their own power SE from the knowledge)
- Heal cloneloss damage (meaning you could give this virus to a person instead of cryo after cloning).

Used in a heal virus, this would reduce the effects of radiation (Tox Filter heals the damage, DNA Aide prevents mutations)

In addition to this, I would majorly buff the DNA Saboteur symptom to apply one disability per cycle, until all bad blocks are active. A single disability is usually nothing more than a mild annoyance. Having several or all of them is a true nightmare that only a Changeling Geneticist has the power to inflict. Essentially, if you catch this virus and leave it untreated for 10-15 minutes, it will leave you a crippled, blind, gibbering mess.

I could take this compromise if we head coders refuse to allow its removal

[Feretal]

Can we just have it not fuck with power blocks at all? So that all the work done by geneticists isn't wasted?

[lumipharon]

If I were to nerf this...I would make DNA Aide do the following things:
- Clean the carrier's SE
- Set the power blocks above 800 but below their manifest threshold (allowing genetics to identify the power blocks and create their own power SE from the knowledge)
- Heal cloneloss damage (meaning you could give this virus to a person instead of cryo after cloning).

Used in a heal virus, this would reduce the effects of radiation (Tox Filter heals the damage, DNA Aide prevents mutations)

In addition to this, I would majorly buff the DNA Saboteur symptom to apply one disability per cycle, until all bad blocks are active. A single disability is usually nothing more than a mild annoyance. Having several or all of them is a true nightmare that only a Changeling Geneticist has the power to inflict. Essentially, if you catch this virus and leave it untreated for 10-15 minutes, it will leave you a crippled, blind, gibbering mess.

Saboteur would be horribly OP with this change. I would just make 6 hardened, airborn variants of this and release them and the entire station is fucked/guzzling ryetlyn all day.

[cedarbridge]

Can we just have it not fuck with power blocks at all? So that all the work done by geneticists isn't wasted?

Not likely considering how DNA works. Your DNA is literally just a long string of values which trigger and change off everything you set at roundstart. Powers manifesting is tucked into that string.

[lumipharon]

There is one thing that might effect that actually... The SE injector that comes with the sith bundle, it pushes the TK block above activation threshhold, and always activates it.
What I noticed however, is EVERY time that my SE has ALL FOUR powers, whether they have manifested or not, then inject the sith injector, ALL FOUR powers manfest. Every time.

I don't know how it works since I've never looked at the code for that item, but I suspect that unlike normal SE injectors it just does something along the lines of
Set TK block to aaaaa (or some shit that is above the activation level)
Force powers to manifest.

Either that or it's just a concidence.

[mikecari]

Another reason why DNA aide is shit is because it fucks over everything the geneticist has worked so hard on and deletes excess DNA.
Honestly I wish I could murderbone any virologist who releases a DNA aide virus.

[Scott]

This virus is shit. It should either be removed or made better somehow. Like you only get one random superpower or one of each for a limited time and then the virus goes dormant and stops mutating you. The constant mutating is irritating and 5 second hulks going on a punching spree so they can use their short term hulk is too shit.

And it shits on genetics, as mike said.

[Drynwyn]

There is one thing that might effect that actually... The SE injector that comes with the sith bundle, it pushes the TK block above activation threshhold, and always activates it.
What I noticed however, is EVERY time that my SE has ALL FOUR powers, whether they have manifested or not, then inject the sith injector, ALL FOUR powers manfest. Every time.

I don't know how it works since I've never looked at the code for that item, but I suspect that unlike normal SE injectors it just does something along the lines of
Set TK block to aaaaa (or some shit that is above the activation level)
Force powers to manifest.

Either that or it's just a concidence.

I will investigate this more fully.

[Lo6a4evskiy]

That and ban people who make spreading viruses. I don't give two shits that it's positive, I don't want your retarded mix making everyone sneeze at each other for the rest of the round.

[Bombadil]

That and ban people who make spreading viruses. I don't give two shits that it's positive, I don't want your retarded mix making everyone sneeze at each other for the rest of the round.

lol

They fucking deserve it

[cedarbridge]

>all those no votes from nerds that want to keep smashing walls when viro sets it loose

Yeah no. Fuck this symptom. It kneecaps genetics, forces sec to start critting everyone who decides to start smashing the captain's room walls or whatever, and adds nothing of value to the round. Its literally a negative status effect labeled as a beneficial.

[Scott]

The vote is for "Should we keep DNA Aide".

[leibniz]

Yeah its kind of bad that the thread title is"remove" and the poll title is "keep".

[Fatal]

Superpower virus also makes it impossible for security to act at all, because you know the people being arrested will get hulk and break the cuffs, and then run off, or worse

Once the virus containing it hits stage 5, it should entirely cure itself and whichever superpower you get to keep is random, so genetics can use it to speed up research by finding people with powers, and it doesn't make everyone smash walls everywhere like maniacs (hulks abusing it can easily be de-hulked and won't get the virus again, unlike current version where getting de-hulked makes no difference)