Airless or air dependent flames

For feedback on the game code and design. Feedback on server rules and playstyle belong in Policy Discussion.
Post Reply
User avatar
FantasticFwoosh
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 pm
Byond Username: FantasticFwoosh

Airless or air dependent flames

Post by FantasticFwoosh » #293646

Can we just have a solid maintainer decision made about whether we should or should not allow fire emitting objects (unless its forced like a welder) work in oxygen-less environments.

For example #26487 which is in regards to whether cigarettes should even work without O2 present.

All of this hinges on the bonfire object being non consistent on lavaland because we need oxygen in the atmosphere to ignite, wheras other objects like torches, matchsticks, lighters etc the list goes on don't even pay attention to this snowflake rule. As per feedback about bonfires as a whole they are good tribal feature but you can only ever use them in specific circumstances of the oxygenated station rather than actually on lavaland/ away from the station.

Lava fire is literally magic if there's no O2.

Spoiler:
Image
Image
User avatar
iamgoofball
Github User
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:50 pm
Byond Username: Iamgoofball
Github Username: Iamgoofball

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by iamgoofball » #293650

This is that level of "who cares" we talked about
User avatar
D&B
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:23 am
Byond Username: Repukan
Location: *teleports behind you*

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by D&B » #293661

IIRC Lavaland does have oxy, just not enough to sustain human breathing.
Spoiler:
[20:26:02]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Welp. It was just a prank bro isn't a very good excuse when it comes to unprovoked nonantag murder, but since this is your first time doing it and you seem to understand the problem instead of a bannu I'm just going to leave you with a warning. Please PLEASE don't do this again in the future, as funny as crackhead broken bottle memes can be. Alrighty? Do you have any input on this?
[20:26:39]ADMIN: PM: [censored]->[censored admin]: Alright, no problem. I have some input. Fuck my boy pussy.
[20:27:06]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Okay then. Have fun.
[20:31:29]ADMIN: PM: [censored admin]->[censored]: Excuse me?
J_Madison wrote: that's a stupid fucking stat
you don't play, you've never played
lying little shit with your bullshit stat
fuck you
ColonicAcid wrote:and with enough practise i too could blow my own dick so well that only the gods know how it feels.
User avatar
BeeSting12
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:11 am
Byond Username: BeeSting12
Github Username: BeeSting12
Location: 'Murica

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by BeeSting12 » #293671

where is the ceiling
Edward Sloan, THE LAW
Melanie Flowers, Catgirl
Borgasm, Cyborg
Spoiler:
OOC: Hunterh98: to be fair sloan is one of the, if not the, most robust folks on tg

DEAD: Schlomo Gaskin says, "sloan may be a faggot but he gets the job done"

DEAD: Rei Ayanami says, "YOU'RE EVERYWHERE WHERE BAD SHIT IS HAPPENING"
DEAD: Rei Ayanami says, "IT'S ALWAYS FUCKING EDWARD SLOAN"
oranges wrote:Bee sting is honestly the nicest admin, I look forward to seeing him as a headmin one day
[2020-05-21 01:21:48.923] SAY: Crippo/(Impala Chainee) "Shaggy Voice - She like... wants to get Eiffel Towered bro!!" (Brig (125, 166, 2))
hows my driving?
Gun Hog
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:19 am
Byond Username: Gun Hog

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by Gun Hog » #293743

Lavaland does have oxygen and an atmosphere, it is simply too thin for humans to breathe.

Lavaland's atmosphere, as read from an analyzer is:
Spoiler:
Results:
Pressure: 37 kPa
Nitrogen: 62.24 %
Oxygen: 37.76 %
CO2: 0 %
Plasma: 0 %
Temperature: 26 °C
Someone who launched an aux base built expanded rooms, using a scrubber and vent combination to create a compressor. He managed to make several other rooms safe to breathe in this manner.
User avatar
FantasticFwoosh
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 pm
Byond Username: FantasticFwoosh

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by FantasticFwoosh » #293755

In that case then a simple amendment to lower the required minimum amount of oxygen (so it wouldn't work in a void) would be enough, and to extinguish other sources of (non forced like welderfuel) fire?

Spoiler:
Image
Image
User avatar
DemonFiren
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:15 pm
Byond Username: DemonFiren

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by DemonFiren » #293777

welders burn in space
your argument is invalid
Image
Image
Image
ImageImageImageImageImage

non-lizard things:
Spoiler:
Image
User avatar
FantasticFwoosh
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 pm
Byond Username: FantasticFwoosh

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by FantasticFwoosh » #293793

DemonFiren wrote:welders burn in space
your argument is invalid
Engines work in space because of the third newtonian law in which the force of the engines running forcefully igniting and ejecting fuel pushes the ship through the void.

If you want to get all technical about it, welders a sufficiently not realistic enough but also advanced enough to use their fuel efficiently like a superminature jet engine and obviously from the remark you wish to express that welders must consume more fuel or a unit of fuel passively every 5 ticks because of wastage in a non 02 enviroment until the whole fuel problem is fixed by superior advanced welders.

Spoiler:
Image
Image
Gun Hog
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:19 am
Byond Username: Gun Hog

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by Gun Hog » #293795

DemonFiren wrote:welders burn in space
your argument is invalid
Not if the welding fuel contains an oxidizer!
User avatar
Aloraydrel
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:14 pm
Byond Username: Aloraydrel
Github Username: Aloraydrel

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by Aloraydrel » #293798

BeeSting12 wrote:where is the ceiling
Wait a minute...
User avatar
Grazyn
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:01 am
Byond Username: Grazyn

Re: Airless or air dependent flames

Post by Grazyn » #293804

the floor is a wall and you're sliding on it
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users