Large ebows do 20 toxins damage?

[CPTANT]

So you got an infinite stun weapon that is silent AND does 20 toxins damage to you every time you get hit?

[DemonFiren]

Whine.

[CPTANT]

Whine.

You think it is balanced?

[DemonFiren]

Whine.

You think it is balanced?

I think you need to stop complaining about things that are unbalanced and counter them with your own unbalanced things, accept that sometimes you lose, or change them yourself.

[CPTANT]

You can't OD on charcoal, right? You need to play every round with 500u on hand and more in your system at any one time.

As tad more of a serious question, there are large e-bows? Do they stun?

yes the bolt is identical except for more damage.

[ShadowDimentio]

They're also a hilariously rare product from R&D.

Be happy that the guy who killed you didn't just egun you to death, it would have been faster. Git gud.

[TheColdTurtle]

>defending awful rnd weapons
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[Lazengann]

They stun you

You're dead without the toxin

[Grazyn]

>people unironically saying acquire proficiency against a gun that stuns and does huge damage at the same time

It's not bad to admit that sometimes you just have to accept that you lose, without crying for nerfs or calling others unrobust pubbies

[CPTANT]

They stun you

You're dead without the toxin

Only in a 1 on 1 situation. In group fights the combined stun and damage is way more lethal than just a stun.

[J_Madison]

I'll see what I can do.

[John_Oxford]

You can't OD on charcoal, right? You need to play every round with 500u on hand and more in your system at any one time.

As tad more of a serious question, there are large e-bows? Do they stun?

i actually have code and sprites for autoinjectors that you wear

every 1, 3, or 5 minutes it deposits 100 units of whatever you put in the compression cells

can only hold 5 though

so every five minutes it would dump 100 units of charcoal into you then shoot the empty vial out

[confused rock]

the warden's fucking tube gun can 2 hit kill a nibba ebows are shit and they aren't SILENT

[kevinz000]

itt the op got wrecked and needs to acquire some proficiency.

[CPTANT]

itt the op got wrecked and needs to acquire some proficiency.

Actually it was very noticable this time because I survived. I was in an extended firefight, hit the other guy several times he hit me 4 times and several other guys also multiple times and got away.

I then look at my health and think wtf 80 toxins damage after being hit by a stunning weapon.

[ShadowDimentio]

It's not a stunning weapon, it's an ebow. Also, FYI ebows are like the worst weapon R&D can make-- they're expensive, bulky, and annoying to use. Advanced eguns are better in every way.

[kevinz000]

It's not a stunning weapon, it's an ebow. Also, FYI ebows are like the worst weapon R&D can make-- they're expensive, bulky, and annoying to use. Advanced eguns are better in every way.

it stuns but it's a crappy stun as it's rate of fire is shit.

[Anonmare]

E-crossbow's advantage is its integral silencer and regenerating ammo. Advanced e-guns are superior in damage output and regenerate ammo.

You also can't seem to make crossbows without a decent levelled traitor item last I checked. X-ray lasers, TYRANT boards and Illegal Modules only have an origin illegal tech level of 1. Not sure if it's because I am missing something but I haven't seen anyway to raise the tech level past 2 without traitor items, maybe you need EXPERIMENTOR fuckery

[Drynwyn]

E-crossbow's advantage is its integral silencer and regenerating ammo. Advanced e-guns are superior in damage output and regenerate ammo.

You also can't seem to make crossbows without a decent levelled traitor item last I checked. X-ray lasers, TYRANT boards and Illegal Modules only have an origin illegal tech level of 1. Not sure if it's because I am missing something but I haven't seen anyway to raise the tech level past 2 without traitor items, maybe you need EXPERIMENTOR fuckery

You can use Experimentor fuckery, aye. Analyze any of those illegal-tech-level 1 items until the anomaly that sucks blood out of you occurs. This will raise all tech levels present on the contained item by 1.

[Gun Hog]

E-crossbow's advantage is its integral silencer and regenerating ammo. Advanced e-guns are superior in damage output and regenerate ammo.

You also can't seem to make crossbows without a decent levelled traitor item last I checked. X-ray lasers, TYRANT boards and Illegal Modules only have an origin illegal tech level of 1. Not sure if it's because I am missing something but I haven't seen anyway to raise the tech level past 2 without traitor items, maybe you need EXPERIMENTOR fuckery

You can use Experimentor fuckery, aye. Analyze any of those illegal-tech-level 1 items until the anomaly that sucks blood out of you occurs. This will raise all tech levels present on the contained item by 1.

That was removed when Science was nerfed, sorry.

[Wyzack]

I read this fucking thread title as elbows every single time, i assumed it was a martial arts thing at first

[CPTANT]

Anyhow I think it would be fine if it did 15 toxins damage.

[confused rock]

its fucking fine as is if that gun was a shotgun you'd be dead on hit 2

[Steelpoint]

Considering that RnD can print off guns like Advance Energy Guns, Xrays, Laser Sniper Rifles and a myriad of shotgun shells, I honestly think the large ebow is fine.

Don't forget that it needs ilegal research to unlock, which requires syndicate items to be researched.

At best you have a edge case where it may be a better TC investment to buy certain syndicate items to research and make a Large Ebow instead of just buying a normal ebow, but that's pretty likely going to be uncommon.

[Screemonster]

By the time they have the research to print a large ebow they have the research to wreck your day in about a dozen deadlier ways.

[Anonmare]

All in all, crossbows are a meme.

Now prototype SMGs were the hot shit back in the day. You think sci is bad now? Lemme tell you about a time where sci could print off tasers with only silver and could get a ballistic weapon (that was basically a C20 SMG today) with a small diamond cost and make recyclers that could harvest more resources from an object than it actually had, including recycling rare resources like diamond, bannanium and uranium from candy wrappers.

Oh and don't forget that traitors can emag testing range firing pins to make them usable anywhere so a traitor in science could be armed to the teeth with tasers, suppressed SMGs, HONK mechs, bombs and be backed up in several autocloners hidden on on station.

Sci is strong, but it isn't as strong as it used to be.

[Anonmare]

testing range firing pins will tell the weapon only to fire if it is an area that is defined as a testing range. Outside of a range, it'll refuse to fire. Unless emagged of course.

Not sure if it merely checks for name or if it checks for something else though. You'd have to ask for a coder or get someone to rename an area to testing range to see if it checks names or roundstart applicable areas.

[kevinz000]

All in all, crossbows are a meme.

Now prototype SMGs were the hot shit back in the day. You think sci is bad now? Lemme tell you about a time where sci could print off tasers with only silver and could get a ballistic weapon (that was basically a C20 SMG today) with a small diamond cost and make recyclers that could harvest more resources from an object than it actually had, including recycling rare resources like diamond, bannanium and uranium from candy wrappers.

Oh and don't forget that traitors can emag testing range firing pins to make them usable anywhere so a traitor in science could be armed to the teeth with tasers, suppressed SMGs, HONK mechs, bombs and be backed up in several autocloners hidden on on station.

Sci is strong, but it isn't as strong as it used to be.

As a ex-science main I can tell you that it's quite fun for me but no one else when I have 40 50 tile stun projectiles up my sleeve 7 minutes in
Oh yeah anonmare the stun revolvers don't even need silver, it's only metal and glass

Testing range pins check for the magnet or the magnet controller.

Oh yeah I remember those smgs remember when I chased korphaeron around space near the station twice around the map and finally killed him after using 8-9 mags with each mag having 41 20 damage bullets.
Jeez I miss those days.

[Cobby]

Recycler Meta was hilarious and I unironically wish it was brought back to a degree [that and foamestry god bless]

[Professor Hangar]

They're at best gimmick items, not much good for an antag since they're just a more cumbersome version of the ebow, if you're in firefights then at that point R&D will have way better weapons for about any purpose (especially since they won't do much to borgs or mechs, and I don't think the stun works on NPCs) and just having illegal tech levels puts suspicion on sci, especially if you get seen or heard using a very distinctive weapon. You already have to go out of your way to find a decent use case for it. The self-recharging is about its only real perk compared to anything else, and I'm pretty sure R&D can eventually make better self-recharging guns.

And you need to reload after every shot, too.

[CPTANT]

Ohw well, just leave it at 20 then.