Serious discussion - Cats, High RP, Furries & Petting

[Slignerd]

Bottom post of the previous page:

It's a great response though.

[captain sawrge]

It's a great response though.

Cast not pearls before swine.

[Qbmax32]

THE SHED HUNGERS

[oranges]

I'm going to enjoy removing cat people

[Armhulen]

I'm going to enjoy removing cat people

My man

[FantasticFwoosh]

I will say this, i am very dissapointed in all cat-people because there was allegations of ERP forced assault in the dorms during a low rules round perpetrated by said catpeople.

Also just to highlight that becoming a catperson alters the human state, because of diminutive feature creep of being more vunerable to sonic weapons, it stands not to be a purely aesthetic choice, even if its a malus rather than a buff.

I feel tired of arguing about it, im just dropping these two points here.

[Slignerd]

allegations of ERP forced assault

>>>>>allegations

because of diminutive feature creep of being more vunerable to sonic weapons, it stands not to be a purely aesthetic choice, even if its a malus rather than a buff

> make a race have more features than humans
> "they're playing it for gameplay benefits!"

> make a race have the same features as humans
> "they're human reskins, there's no need for them!"

> make a race weaker than humans
> "they still play them it even though it makes them weaker, and that's bad!"

It's literally a non-argument.
It's funny that folks like you and goofball complain that there is no gameplay benefit to being a catperson, while you would be the first ones to screech if there were.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Read over what you just posted.

- Humans have no special assets (besides being more resistant to cold, which transfers over to catpeople)

Suddenly attaching two surgical objects of ears &/or tail applies minor features, arguably when the catperson button was the only way to transform and it was a irreversible (without prior DNA backup) it was a more agreeable sprite only change. Didn't stop people's behaviour but they had no difference to a regular person.

The only reason i see for catpeople having these removable & attachable parts is because there was a wave of support to find a way to essentially castrate the most obnoxious catpeople players of their staked claim to act like a 'nyaning' piece of shit. Its invasive surgery and the ex-catperson retaliates like a mewling quim and the parts literally have to be cremated to stop them being recovered. What does that tell you about the current health of the coderbase?

There is no gameplay benefit because players and what seems to be some coders only want to literally punish catpeople, people pushing for catpeople buffs are stopped by the top-brass who literally are trying to keep the peace (basically MRTY pr's) its a downward hill.

[Slignerd]

The only reason i see for catpeople having these removable & attachable parts is because there was a wave of support to find a way to essentially castrate the most obnoxious catpeople players of their staked claim to act like a 'nyaning' piece of shit. Its invasive surgery and the ex-catperson retaliates like a mewling quim and the parts literally have to be cremated to stop them being recovered.

What does that tell you about the current health of the coderbase?

That it leads to some hilarious situations, and you should laugh at it instead of being a whiny bitch about it.

[Qbopper]

remember when fwoosh tried to say "dullahans are bad because you could get griffed!!"

[FantasticFwoosh]

That it leads to some hilarious situations, and you should laugh at it instead of being a whiny bitch about it.

Fun wont be had when sec cracks down and removes people of their static identities if they can't behave in-round.

remember when fwoosh tried to say "dullahans are bad because you could get griffed!!"

Seperate topic, but you should probably only pick dullahan is you LIKE being griefed 24/7 by assistants and ahelps flooding chat because serious incidents happen every round. (then again, not your concern anymore as a ex-admin)

[Qbopper]

fwoosh I posted in this thread after readminning and have a purple name again are you okay

[kevinz000]

fwoosh is a baby

[BeeSting12]

why do we still respond to fwoosh bait threads

[John_Oxford]

if server supports catgirls

server is the problem

remove server

if coderbus supports catgirls

coderbus is the problem

remove coderbus

we are not the problem, catgirls are the problem

[kevinz000]

catgirls aren't either
fwoosh is the problem.

[DemonFiren]

fwoosh is a problem, correct
but so are catgirls
and especially catmins

[Rustledjimm]

It's almost like giving people more roles to play in a roleplaying game is a good thing?????

[Screemonster]

as a rule of thumb I've found that no matter how annoying the fans of a thing can ever possibly be, the people who get irrationally angry about that thing's mere existence and flip out at the merest hint of something that reminds them of it are 10000000 times more annoying

catpeople that insist on going "nyaaaa~" at you are a mild irritation, spergs that see a pair of ears on someone behaving normally and burst into a fit of screeching are "fucking god shut up" tier
furries that want to insert latex vox into the game are to be laughed at and then ignored, a fly that you just swat, while people that scream "reee it's a fetish" about digitigrade legs are like the humming of a mosquito that you just can't fucking find and will not shut up
people who make undertale and homestuck and mlp references can be handwaved away, the people who sound the airhorns at potential references no matter how esoteric just end up drawing attention to the reference that anyone unfamiliar with the show could just blissfully remain unaware of

[Grazyn]

Are there actual cat people who meow IC?

[Arianya]

Are there actual cat people who meow IC?

Most of the instances I've seen have been making fun of the people who scream about catbeasts.

[Qbopper]

as a rule of thumb I've found that no matter how annoying the fans of a thing can ever possibly be, the people who get irrationally angry about that thing's mere existence and flip out at the merest hint of something that reminds them of it are 10000000 times more annoying

catpeople that insist on going "nyaaaa~" at you are a mild irritation, spergs that see a pair of ears on someone behaving normally and burst into a fit of screeching are "fucking god shut up" tier
furries that want to insert latex vox into the game are to be laughed at and then ignored, a fly that you just swat, while people that scream "reee it's a fetish" about digitigrade legs are like the humming of a mosquito that you just can't fucking find and will not shut up
people who make undertale and homestuck and mlp references can be handwaved away, the people who sound the airhorns at potential references no matter how esoteric just end up drawing attention to the reference that anyone unfamiliar with the show could just blissfully remain unaware of

it's kinda interesting to watch this happen to rick and morty again

Spoiler:

who the fuck am I kidding the IQ copypasta is so much more annoying than rick will ever be

[confused rock]

Qbopper is a rick and morty fan and Scree is a catgirl only player who watches mlp reads homestuck and plays undertale
just because antifa is bad doesn't mean fascism is good

[BeeSting12]

Why did you idiots bump this

[oranges]

What's this? Fwoosh is throwing bait into the forum again? Well, time to grab my bite.

Coderbus is currently being 'culturally enriched' by bad PR's that are either still around or are being scrubbed out of our code because we KNOW they are a problem and disliked by the majority of players.

And so, without evidence, Fwoosh starts off on the same excuse used by any coder or maintainer on Github. Good to see we REALLY need to rely on personal pathos, buddy boy.

There's been a lot of these PR's lately. This is feedback to #28028 , #30130, and importantly the cat centric PR's merged & unmerged #28148 #27711

Oh look, they're all minor and cosmetic features. Good to see we're on the right track here.

Catpeople do not add anything to the game, they are exclusively a luxury allowance on part of the hosts gracious nature with the motive to bring more people to the server and we still operated functionally well prior and initially afterwards but then these unwelcoming prs came though.

Did... did you just blame catpeople for light-hearted and fun PRs? WHILE sighting them as an unneeded feature? Give me a moment, I gotta go chase my sides. They just flew off towards the county borders.

Blob cuddling was a unnessecary step that was snuck in with the emergent purpose to spam blobs, a mindless form of murderous antag that cannot be 'friendly' that caused problems later with its chat bar being filled up with hugging messages, breaking communication. Blob players justifiably complained.

You literally linked the PR that made it so Blobs could turn off the hug messages, and still use this as an excuse. The only set of examples you have to cling to, and you STILL fuck up with them.

Headpatting & slapping was a bad use of code, and removed on the basis it was bad code, but was immediately revert-removal PR'd with no improvement.

"Bad code" i.e. Oranges is a cuck, who hoped removing the code would get rid of people. Neato. Also Hi

Conceptually and practically it was unfeasable to continue and it divided players because it serviced the culture of catpeople patting each other on the head which is commonly shown in pop culture, and people didn't like how overt it was too. Slapping was more agreeable though

Oh look, more "facts" that really aren't backed up by any evidence.

Most of these PR's had to be merged out afterwards, and the people who are perpetrating this problem of either 'entirely passive HRP pr's' or 'nyaa alt culture fetishism' aren't improving our code at all as much as servicing themselves by misusing their contributor status at risk of alienating others, and forming meta-cliques around themselves for people who do enjoy & tolerate that content.

And the obligatory stabs at anything even passively referring to cats or HRP, and the usual banter of meta-cliques. Really digging up the old arguments again?

Whatever you may think of each presented issue, whether catpeople deserve to be disadvantageous in exchange to getting features, this counter culture by either very good coders or coders with not enough technical experience but the motivation to put contributions that does not enrich the codebase and effectively wasting time is a problem. Its neither a feature, nerf, buff, correction or alteration.

First off, these are features, despite being small ones. Second, dear lord, you sound like the most annoying code purist in the world. I forgot this was a serious endeavour that we needed to be 100% serious about any contribution. If it isn't directly doing something so fantastically big, it's bad code.

Its pointless self serving fluff made as irrelevant as possible to sail through and feed a counter culture movement that often creates emergent problems by its implementation. As the saying goes, give them a inch and the take a mile

Oh look, more "facts". Good to see you brought new and fresh evidence to a new thread.

Look, not gonna lie. I was expecting better than the usual Goof-brand arguments from a Catperson thread. But nonetheless, your points are stale and worthless, and seem like you're just screeching about how the code isn't being man-handled into a bland seriousness.

[oranges]

Ironically RogueSteamPunker deleted their comment after, probably because of how "excessively goal-oriented personality" it was

[cedarbridge]

wtf I like oranges now?

[oranges]

it's ironic because fwoosh does have some good points they're just drowned by the excessively goal oriented personality words

[Slignerd]

wtf I like oranges now?

[cedarbridge]

it's ironic because fwoosh does have some good points they're just drowned by the excessively goal oriented personality words

par for the course

[FantasticFwoosh]

it's ironic because fwoosh does have some good points they're just drowned by the excessively goal oriented personality words

Taking a second away from being metaphysically dead here, its hard to rest while you guys make me spin in my grave, I just lurk really struggling to keep up with the kid-speak in NTRhut and pinging potent threads like this one is asking for trouble. Ill make a exception to my absence to respond.

Did... did you just blame catpeople for light-hearted and fun PRs?

Second, dear lord, you sound like the most annoying code purist in the world. I forgot this was a serious endeavour that we needed to be 100% serious about any contribution. If it isn't directly doing something so fantastically big, it's bad code.

Really probably my own here for no reason but i take your job in maintaining the code ethically (if such a meaning can be applied) more seriously than you do, im just a boringly safe & methodical person on top of that because change is volitious. Big ideas come in installments and get cleaned up later, small ideas often end up being the subject of bigger sometimes subversive ideas if not picked carefully or going nowhere at all, which is what i oppose mainly. I wouldn't be suitable for the maintainer job because its not the right temperament and i do think maintainers are too lenient or nearsighted on what they want, "ruling" under myself in a headmin or lead maintainer role would be a static existance that might bore people.

Balance has yet to be achieved, i thought we were close at one point to such a thing and a model of stability & change that still enhanced the experience without blowing over massively. Maybe i too was nearsighted on what i saw, maybe im just mad i lost to ERP furries. who knows. My 'goals' were dashed, greentext denied

"Bad code" i.e. Oranges is a cuck, who hoped removing the code would get rid of people. Neato. Also Hi

Well its not wrong. If i remember correctly the last time you touched code notably, it only resulted in removing yourself. Hi. Longtime no-see, not to say either of us enjoy's each other's company or anything. Everyone is privy to your methods to create shitstirrs for no reason other than ambiguous self-serving satisfaction.

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Back on topic, coincidentally the rate of catperson PR's that deserve any form of reasonable feedback has slowed down, though the equipping collars stunt was disgusting despite obviously being purposeful to 'out' people pre-disposed to choker fetishes or cross accuse people against/for catpeople, i dont know im hardly relevant anymore to analyse anything.


Lock & hut or saltmine this please at admin discretion its old news, like me. Delete it if you want, free me from having to look at it again, its harsh on my eyes and you have my blessing to do so if you wish. I can return to being a deadmeme now.

[cedarbridge]

I have a knife fetish. Please remove all knives and restraints from the game. Thanks in advance.

[BeeSting12]

I have a floortile fetish. Please remove all floors from the game. Thanks in advance.

[Atlanta-Ned]

Removing things is my kink. Checkmate motherfuckers.

[confused rock]

The obvious difference being that floors are not a common fetish and have purpose beyond fetishes.
If a dildo was added, would removing it for being degenerate fetish shit be wrong? No. It has no purpose beyond being a dildo.
I bet maybe a dozen people on the planet tops want to fuck a floor tile. Floors also serve a purpose.

[Slignerd]

I bet you're sexually attracted to humans, you degenerate freak.

We must remove humans from the game.

[oranges]

Being sexually attracted to humans is culturally normal, please stop posting it's embarrassing

[Slignerd]

It's almost like you don't have to remove something just because someone might find it appealing... Hmmm... ?

[Bawhoppennn]

Oranges is playing 8d chess. Replying with anything that isn't completely irrelevant means you fall into his trap.

[oranges]

It's almost like you don't have to remove something just because someone might find it appealing... Hmmm... ?

[Screemonster]

people like something and I'm not included

this injustice will not stand

[confused rock]

I bet you're sexually attracted to humans, you degenerate freak.

We must remove humans from the game.

Literally a non argument
Humans have an important purpose in the game, even if you count it as fetish material. 1/2
A floor tile is both rarely a fetish and important to the game.2/2
A paper plane is not important, but shut the fuck up, theres prolly less than a dozen *paper* plane rule 34s out there. 1/2
Collars play no important role and theres prolly thousands of lewds with collars.0/2
Name 3 times youve seen a paper plane imply shagging
Name 3 times youve seen a non degenerate use of collars (cat killing ian and hiding in the hops disposals is degenerate)

[Arianya]

please stop bumping a fwoosh thread


vvvvvv I would sage if I could

[confused rock]

I bump a fwoosh thread

[Qbopper]

I bet you're sexually attracted to humans, you degenerate freak.

We must remove humans from the game.

Literally a non argument
Humans have an important purpose in the game, even if you count it as fetish material. 1/2
A floor tile is both rarely a fetish and important to the game.2/2
A paper plane is not important, but shut the fuck up, theres prolly less than a dozen *paper* plane rule 34s out there. 1/2
Collars play no important role and theres prolly thousands of lewds with collars.0/2
Name 3 times youve seen a paper plane imply shagging
Name 3 times youve seen a non degenerate use of collars (cat killing ian and hiding in the hops disposals is degenerate)

why should we care if someone gets their rocks off on being a lizard though

erp is bannable so if they do something in game that you have to see then they get banned for it

why does someone else having a different sprite matter to you people so much i wish i could understand

someone else being a "degenerate" has literally no effect on you, and when it does you can ahelp it and get them banned

if you take issue with them saying or doing something that isn't erp just grow some thicker skin and move on with your life please

[Qbopper]

"it attracts furries" is a non argument and if you reply with it i'll laugh at you

[bman]

fwoosh must be extremely handsome cause he just got everyone's panties in a twist

what a king

[confused rock]

If it doesnt attract furries, then what DOES it do?

[Qbopper]

If it doesnt attract furries, then what DOES it do?

this isn't what i mean

i mean "it attracts furries" is a meaningless statement, not "it doesn't attract furries"

please give me one legitimate reason why other people having fun playing as a lizard or catgirl and not doing anything that directly impacts you is important

it's perfectly acceptable to think that stuff is annoying or not like it, i personally avoid it myself, but i've yet to hear a legitimate reason to remove them that isn't some ridiculous strawman about furries or whatever

[confused rock]

I dont think it can attract furries
First off itd be degenerates/neckbeards/weebs/whatevers, and I think they’re already here
I think it allows the degenerates/weebs to show off as if it were promoted by cats existing, though I guess that isnt too different. I cant think of a reason for it to exist byond to give them a platform for nya nya :3 and ignoring their job to run around in a skirt regardless of gender or go nude. As I cant think of anything else cats add I do not like them.(Violently hate them)
Youve yet to hear a legitimate reason to remove them, and I’ve yet to hear a legitimate reason to keep them that my brain can process.

[Qbopper]

I dont think it can attract furries
First off itd be degenerates/neckbeards/weebs/whatevers, and I think they’re already here

still a meaningless statement

I think it allows the degenerates/weebs to show off as if it were promoted by cats existing, though I guess that isnt too different. I cant think of a reason for it to exist byond to give them a platform for nya nya :3 and ignoring their job to run around in a skirt regardless of gender or go nude. As I cant think of anything else cats add I do not like them.(Violently hate them)

not everything needs an explicit reason to exist, and if it makes other people happy why do you give a shit

Youve yet to hear a legitimate reason to remove them, and I’ve yet to hear a legitimate reason to keep them that my brain can process.

"i hate them" is not a valid reason and if they don't do their jobs that's a different matter entirely, just because you have thin skin about some people saying nya means nothing