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rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:19 pm #476753

i m gonna up them by x50/x100 again, as I tried to do a test to see if what deathtride58 (furry citadel ""coder"") said was even possible (its not)
he claimed that its possible to get 7000/s rnd points with the system he made (collectors set to research)

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yep thats right 0.6 research points made each minute.
it may seem much but the passive generation is aroung 3500/minute, even the ballmer peak which is a joke makes more research points than this.
it takes 15-20 to set up an incinerator to make tritium and 5 more min to fill it with o2 and make these tanks that generate a whole 0 . 6 /minute with a standard supermatter setup
if you have proof that you can reach the 7000/s i ll wait and see



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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby Yakumo_Chen » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:39 am #476864

isn't the rad collector array supposed to only take plasma??????

Also what's the energy of the SM?
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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:32 am #476885

you can set it to research mode and it makes points with trit + o2

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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby somerandomguy » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:17 pm #476906

To get full potential you have to supercharge the SM

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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby Cobby » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:42 pm #476917

does this work with the RPED exploit lol
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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby somerandomguy » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:45 pm #476918

RPED exploit?

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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby Cobby » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:49 pm #476936

:thinking:
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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby deathride58 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:33 am #479775

The 7k/m per rad collector benchmark was with your PR that bumped the power to research point conversion rate from 0.00001 to 0.01. And that value was from an actual test with TGcode. For those completely unaware, here is OP's original PR that insanely overbuffed rad collectors, and here is my PR that reverted it and went through how completely ridiculous it was.

That being said though, I've noticed that the supermatter's power output is actually lower than what's supposed to be intended, I'm not sure if the supermatter or rad collectors that were nerfed some time between last week and last year, but the setup I had that was able to produce a peak of 5k research points per minute per rad collector while also heavily irradiating literally 60% of the station now only produces a measly 500 a minute last time I toyed around with TG code. I'd actually be completely unopposed to bumping the research point conversion rate from 0.00001 to 0.0001, since it seems like rad collector power production was reduced by *0.1 across the board on TG. Or, hell, bump up the base conversion rate to 0.0005, and make the conversion rate decline linearly with power production in such a way that the expected maximum still remains 5k per minute per rad collector, and if someone calls you insane for making the baseline conversion rate be 0.0005, just take a screenshot of this post and flood my DMs with links to the PR. The conversion rate is balanced with engineering autism in mind, and as such, it should take no less than 30 minutes to complete RND with rad collectors alone if you really know what you're doing, and that's a good idea to always keep that in mind when adjusting the values. If you want some basic pointers on how to produce obscene amounts of research points with rad collectors, take a look at how fusion and tritium both work, and then look at ways to make the supermatter handle an intense hellburn. Just be sure to have your doctor prescribe you copious amounts of ritalin before you fully sperg out.

Another potential option for rad collector research point conversion would be to make research point production scale exponentially rather than linearly, which would be a huge, *huge* buff to engineering autism but would make it much easier for the unrobust to see the insane potential it has just from basic experimentation, as increases in radiation would have a much more intense impact on the research point production of rad collectors

EDIT: Also, you do not need to use the incinerator to make tritium. Radiation collectors turn plasma into tritium for you, you do not need to exit the engine room at all if you want tritium. Literally all you need to do is premix o2 into the roundstart plasma tanks to have enough tritium for a good 10 minutes of research point production after about 10 minutes of power production. Unless you're able to enslave the science department to mass produce tritium for you, making tritium in the incinerator simply is not worth it when you're speedrunning RND with the supermatter.

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Re: rad collectors set to research feedback

Postby iamgoofball » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:52 am #479878

i do wonder if anyone's figured out how to powergame the Ballmer Peak yet


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