P L U M B I N G (no longer in development)

[Xhuis]

plumbing is no longer in development
rip

[Saegrimr]

Eager to see more lines of things recalculate next time singulo gets loose.

[PKPenguin321]

Eager to see more lines of things recalculate next time singulo gets loose.

the fun part is that it doesnt have a network system, it's just spess magic

[Grazyn]

I don't see the point of a new job, this would be just like telecomms, a complex snowflakey machinery thing that requires specific knowledge of how it works but you don't really have to touch it unless it's not working properly. And we don't have a "telecomm specialist" job. yes we do have atmos tech but that's more of a legacy thing since this game is basically an atmos simulator and you can do disposal rides and stuff
Just put it under the janitor, after all he's the one responsible for all the watery things, and if a toilet overflows at your workplace/school who's the first guy you're gonna call? Guess who, it's the fucking janitor.

Also I don't really understand what the Synthesizer is gonna do, you say it makes water by default but you also say that it feeds all objects that require reagents, so is it gonna feed stuff like chem and booze dispensers too? Meaning you can bomb it and cut off all chemical supplies?

[Xhuis]

Also I don't really understand what the Synthesizer is gonna do, you say it makes water by default but you also say that it feeds all objects that require reagents, so is it gonna feed stuff like chem and booze dispensers too? Meaning you can bomb it and cut off all chemical supplies?

The synthesizer feeds water to things that require it, like showers, sprinklers, sinks, and toilets. Dispensers remain independent. If you bomb it, it will cut off the flow of reagents to the things that require them.
I didn't want to put this to the janitor because they already have a decent amount of responsibility on their own.

[Grazyn]

I didn't want to put this to the janitor because they already have a decent amount of responsibility on their own.

Well I was using the telecomm example because it falls under engineering even though they already have a lot of responsibility.
Janitor duties:

• cleaning
• cockblock light-breaking thralls
• HERO OF THE STATION when a slaughter demon shows up

I guess he could squeeze a maintenance stop to check the synthesizer once in a while, I just can't see plumbing as a full time job with the stuff you described.

Also those water sprinklers could really nerf station fires to the point of making them harmless, might be a pretty heavy change.

[Kel]

Current problem is there is very little you can do with this outside of sabotage. Mass producing healing chems is nice but a few of people use magic sink water as a vital part of their job (Botany, Xenobiology, Chef). It kinda feels like a watered down (heh) atmos at the moment. You can create mass chaos with it (via sprinkler sabotage), and not much else. Maybe if drinking normal water had some sort of benefit so poisoning the water supply would actually have a point.

[dionysus24779]

A whole new job, how exciting!

Though it seems pretty basic for now, it has potential.

[Reimoo]

Very nice, but couldn't plumber merged with atmospheric technician duties since neither job has much to do anyway?

[TehSteveo]

Very nice, but couldn't plumber merged with atmospheric technician duties since neither job has much to do anyway?

I would kinda agree. I mean, Atmos Techs are kinda the pipe lords already. Though Atmos Tech would need to be renamed.

[Falamazeer]

Yeah, Maybe to "Maintenance"
it's a broad enough term to cover atmos and plumbing.


Also, It'sa me, a mario!

[Alex Crimson]

Maintenance Staff perhaps? You could merge Janitor into that role. They would be responsible for keeping things running, whilst engineers would be the guys who fix things that stop running.

[invisty]

Guys my tap isn't working call the shuttle

[PKPenguin321]

guys please dont flood suggestions on this like you did with dismemberment
for now it's pretty much just the ability to make sinks dispense different reagents and a job to go with it
merging the jobs/tweaking how it works can be saved for after the base product is finished

[Amelius]

Oh boy, MORE ways for singuloth to lag the station to shit.

I like a new sprinkler system for fire alarms, but ensure they're not up at roundstart, lest fires be nerfed to oblivion.

Also: > "Plumbers are the only ones who can understand all the complex workings of the machine by default". Does this mean it's hard-coded that only plumbers can use plumbing equipment? If so, fuck that shit, terrible mentality to have while coding anyway. Besides, why could anyone, with the right access, fuck with singuloth, tcomms, the AI upload, and atmospherics, but oh no, my precious plumbing is only touchable by those special snowflake roundstart plumbers with their maximum hard RP because we can't be having anyone fixing the water supply after the water becomes acid, and we also need to know EXACTLY who to blame for a mishap.

Just fucking no. The exact same information should be provided regardless of who looks at it as well.

[Saegrimr]

Does this mean it's hard-coded that only plumbers can use plumbing equipment?

Scroll down.

[PKPenguin321]

some bullshit

nigga learn to read

[Grazyn]

for now it's pretty much just the ability to make sinks dispense different reagents

which is exactly why a whole new job is kinda pointless

they didn't add a new job when they added the gravity generator

[PKPenguin321]

for now it's pretty much just the ability to make sinks dispense different reagents

which is exactly why a whole new job is kinda pointless

they didn't add a new job when they added the gravity generator

yeah but who the fuck is gonna maintain the water generator, the janitor?
grav gen doesn't need maintenance the same way water generator does, not to mention why would you not want a new job

[Zilenan91]

for now it's pretty much just the ability to make sinks dispense different reagents

which is exactly why a whole new job is kinda pointless

they didn't add a new job when they added the gravity generator

yeah but who the fuck is gonna maintain the water generator, the janitor?
grav gen doesn't need maintenance the same way water generator does, not to mention why would you not want a new job

It does make sense for janitors to man the new plumbing system imo. I feel they would be a better fit than atmos techs because atmos techs have the tools to fix the station like engineers do to pass the time, whilst janitors really just clean shit, and on rounds where there isn't much dirt than the randomly spawned shit on the ground at round start, you quickly get bored.

[lumipharon]

for now it's pretty much just the ability to make sinks dispense different reagents

which is exactly why a whole new job is kinda pointless

they didn't add a new job when they added the gravity generator

yeah but who the fuck is gonna maintain the water generator, the janitor?
grav gen doesn't need maintenance the same way water generator does, not to mention why would you not want a new job

The water gen requires maintenance?

Does that mean all the sinks and shit are going to stop working because you have no plumber man? Because that's pretty shitty.

[PKPenguin321]

it's a giant machine that makes infinite black powder/nanomachines/whatever the fuck and is potentially hundreds of times more devastating than a gravity generator if tampered with, and therefore should be maintained to prevent sabotage/to be upgraded with medicine

what part of this don't you guys get

[newfren]

it's a giant machine that makes infinite black powder/nanomachines/whatever the fuck and is potentially hundreds of times more devastating than a gravity generator if tampered with, and therefore should be maintained to prevent sabotage/to be upgraded with medicine

what part of this don't you guys get

Any upgrades would actively screw over botanists, xenobiologists, and chefs. Any tampering done would be basically instantly discovered by the same jobs shift clicking their buckets, but I guess it would be kinda useful if you could also orchestrate a plasma fire to set off the sprinklers and cover the halls in chlorine trifluoride/mutagen.

Seems like a fair ol nerf to plasma fires in non-traitor play though.

[Grazyn]

not to mention why would you not want a new job

I relish a new job as much as the next guy, of course, it's just that adding a job with pretty much nothing to do is the same as raising the assistant cap

[Amelius]

not to mention why would you not want a new job

I relish a new job as much as the next guy, of course, it's just that adding a job with pretty much nothing to do is the same as raising the assistant cap

Why not have the janitors be responsible for it instead of making a whole new job, and throw janitors under the purview of engineering while adding another slot? What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

[TheNightingale]

Perhaps give Janitors an Engineering/Service dual headset (like Genetics)?

[Anonmare]

I think it could work as a shared responsibility between engineering and custodial staff. The janitors could be in charge of the general upkeep while the engineering/atmos teams perform the actual maintenance when things break

[Lumbermancer]

Yay let us add more busywork, instead of fun. You surely gonna get to maintain them pipings in 20 minutes before shuttle is called!

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Or we could just have plumbers and shout at them when nitroglycerine spews from on high.

Also amelius still doesn't know what they're talking about

[ThanatosRa]

>hack plumbing machine
>replace water with welder fuel
>start fire

[lumipharon]

>not making the sprinkler systems spew out acid/zombie powder/that heart attack shit

[ThanatosRa]

but fire.


I am eager to see this in practice though.

[Kel]

>not making the sprinkler systems spew out acid/zombie powder/that heart attack shit

>not adding space lube, mind breaker and morphine to the mix

Pretty sure it will only accept beakers with a single reagent in it.

[Takeguru]

Can viro be massive dickheads/the saviors the station deserves by putting a virus in the tank

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Why would viro need to.
Just make it cough, inject three monkies and put them outside the bar.
boom entire station infected in minutes

[newfren]

Why would viro need to.
Just make it cough, inject three monkies and put them outside the bar.
boom entire station infected in minutes

It's sneezing, not coughing, and the ability to rain infected blood allows you to scrap the sneezing symptom if you wanted to make your virus more difficult to cure with extra buff symptoms or making it hard to cure AND stealthy, which usually sneezing stops you from doing.

[Phalanx300]

Sounds great. Hopefully this means we get to drown some people in a bolted room slowly flooding with water.