Powerless bolting

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Should you be able to bolt and unbolt an unpowered airlock?

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Powerless bolting

Post by Scott » #147114

Gameplay vs Realism - Applies to hacking and silicon operating

Other solutions?
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Saegrimr » #147115

For silicons? No.
Hacking, maybe. With a crowbar/wrench and some wind up time to manually lift the bolts.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Zilenan91 » #147116

Yeah silicons shouldn't be able ot bolt/unbolt without door power. Humans should with hacking.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by killerx09 » #147117

Can you still use eswords to cut door bolts?
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Post by Zilenan91 » #147118

nope that got removed for some stupid reason. It was probably paprika.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Lumbermancer » #147119

Borgs should be able to if they interface directly with the airlock.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by CPTANT » #147122

You can currently only remove a depowered/bolted airlock by using an RCD or explosives right?
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Wyzack » #147125

I think it is fine the way it is, not everything in this game needs to be super easy to do. Just decon a wall if you need to get around one in a hurry
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Zilenan91 » #147126

It's a problem on the new box AI core because everything is rwalls.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by CPTANT » #147131

Wyzack wrote:I think it is fine the way it is, not everything in this game needs to be super easy to do. Just decon a wall if you need to get around one in a hurry
This has let to some stupid shit, such as borgs spamming walls of bolted doors during malf because without RCD they are harder to destroy than even reinforced walls.


Perhaps welders should be able to cut bolts with a sizeable delay (1-2 minutes or so).
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Actionb » #147269

Give engineering access to some heavy duty bolt cutters to cut into bolted airlocks/steal bicycles with.

Other than that... RCDs aren't exactly rare, so don't be a lazy fuck and acquire one before assaulting the AI core. :roll:
This has let to some stupid shit, such as borgs spamming walls of bolted doors during malf because without RCD they are harder to destroy than even reinforced walls.
They have done that since the dawn of time. And it rarely saved the AI against a competent crew - quite the opposite actually.
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Post by confused rock » #147313

Saegrimr wrote:For silicons? No.
Hacking, maybe. With a crowbar/wrench and some wind up time to manually lift the bolts.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Anonmare » #147530

If it's really a problem then give Engineering some heavy duty bolt cutters with spares orderable from cargo.

Please, please, *please* don't give any to science. They already have enough answers to almost any situation as it is.

That said, I like to mix it up a notch with energy shields and field generators. Nothing funnier than watching some goyim rush through the (apparently) all-access airlock only to get bounced back out by the emitter-powered field generator
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by CPTANT » #147541

Anonmare wrote:If it's really a problem then give Engineering some heavy duty bolt cutters with spares orderable from cargo.

Please, please, *please* don't give any to science. They already have enough answers to almost any situation as it is.

That said, I like to mix it up a notch with energy shields and field generators. Nothing funnier than watching some goyim rush through the (apparently) all-access airlock only to get bounced back out by the emitter-powered field generator
Just give the bolt cutting abillity to welders, simple and effective.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Saegrimr » #147542

Do you really want permanently broken bolts on doors, or disabled until power is restored?
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by ShadowDimentio » #147547

Is this seriously necessary, to have a quick and easy solution to everything? Bolted doors are supposed to be a hinderance.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by Actionb » #147553

Saegrimr wrote:Do you really want permanently broken bolts on doors, or disabled until power is restored?
Yes.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by CPTANT » #147554

ShadowDimentio wrote:Is this seriously necessary, to have a quick and easy solution to everything? Bolted doors are supposed to be a hinderance.
RCD is already a completely easy way to remove them. In my opinion way too much emphasize is put on having a RCD to solve every problem.
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Re: Powerless bolting

Post by lumipharon » #147573

If a door has been depowered you can just cut and remend the test wire to repower it, then unbolt it though.

This should only ever be an issue if enviro power at the apc is turned off.
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