Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
NOBODY likes newcult better. Except for maybe some exceptional individuals.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
While no one likes newcult for extremely obvious reasons 'old cult' is a really broad term considering how radically it was changes, more than once.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
For the purposes of this poll, I'm concerned with the general concepts behind each. If you have to nail it down I would say the iteration immediately before it was removed.lumipharon wrote:While no one likes newcult for extremely obvious reasons 'old cult' is a really broad term considering how radically it was changes, more than once.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
"oldcult" is the thing we had right after xhuis did some tweaks and before what we have now came in
note that while not perfect, it was, IMO, worlds better than what we now have
"newcult" is what we now have
also wew this poll isn't even close, RIP zilenan
note that while not perfect, it was, IMO, worlds better than what we now have
"newcult" is what we now have
also wew this poll isn't even close, RIP zilenan
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
How would you guys improve "newcult"?
I really have no interest in (re)adding yet another conversion mode.
I really have no interest in (re)adding yet another conversion mode.
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i honestly don't believe that it's salvageable without essentially making it a completely different mode, at which point it's less "salvaging" and more "replacing"Kor wrote:How would you guys improve "newcult"?
I really have no interest in (re)adding yet another conversion mode.
nuke ops does everything newcult does gameplay-wise but better
oldcult does everything newcult does theme-wise (and fun-wise) but better
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Do we really benefit from the runes being random?Kor wrote:How would you guys improve "newcult"?
I really have no interest in (re)adding yet another conversion mode.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Saw the poll go up and the bars were so skewed I thought it was funny, but it was only 2 votes.
Now it's a lot more and its still the same
Now it's a lot more and its still the same
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
I would improve it by reverting it to the oldcult. I'm one of the few people who enjoy playing newcult, I enjoy playing it, but oldcult is simply more enjoyable. Conversion rune, stun paper, 10000 people needed to summon Nar-Nar are all much more fun than "sac a few people, summon shell".How would you guys improve "newcult"?
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Kor. Why remove conversation from cult though....when it was one of the two original ones, and one which was actually fun. Well, it did get less fun though and people kept changing cult and doing overhauls with no general direction.
It's not fun anymore. Not at all.
It's not fun anymore. Not at all.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
kor quit being a lesbian "i have no interest in re-adding another conversion mode" then here's an idea kor remove the fucking cult gamemode entirely because as of right now newcult is so fucking cancerous if you fuck up and roll antag for it you're better off trying to convince every other cultist to commit suicide at once and hope for the next round.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Can we just get MSO to gut Cult from the rotation until someone (never) fixes it or reverts to the far more bearable old cult iteration?
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
I guess someone open a PR if everyone feels so strongly.
I really don't see the point of oldcult without research though. Rev with magic.
I would rather see the mode finally given up on honestly. It has been hated for 5 years now.
I really don't see the point of oldcult without research though. Rev with magic.
I would rather see the mode finally given up on honestly. It has been hated for 5 years now.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Calling oldcult a "conversion" mode in the same vein as rev or gang is extremely disingenuous. Those two modes require conversion, cults can sacrifice too or choose to stay small and discreet. Even if it is a conversion antag, why the fuck is that a bad thing? Re-add oldcult, restore research, remove stunpaper. I'd be cool with the shell defense mechanic being added as an endgame in oldcult if it's tweaked to be more flavorful (no delta message, tons of supernatural shit happens the closer you to to the shell such as hallucinations and EMPs).
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
ShadowDimentio wrote:ShadowDimentio wrote:LING
>Remove parasting
>"Wow this mode sucks cock now"
>Desperately fumble around trying to find a solution
>Don't add back parasting
>Mode gets shittier and shittier thanks to your fumbling
>People get sick of it and remove the mode <<WHERE WE ARE
CULT
>Remove stunpaper
>"Wow this mode sucks cock now"
>Desperately fumble around trying to find a solution
>Don't add back stunpaper
>Mode gets shittier and shittier thanks to your fumbling <<WHERE WE ARE
>People get sick of it and remove the mode
I SENSE A PATTERN.........
ShadowDimentio wrote:I said this a long time ago, newcult would be tolerable if every cultist had access to every rune from the word go, period.
Then it would actually be a matter of the cult players making the most of what they had rather than having to potentially carry your team by yourself because you got all the good runes or be locked into uselessness because you got bad ones
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Non-universal runes is only one of many issues that newcult has. I don't think the mode is salvagable, at least as a replacement for oldcult.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
31 to 4 poll never forget
oldcult when???
oldcult when???
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Neither are good if I'm honest. Cult really just needs to be removed pending a full rework of the core gameplay. It was never "good" after it was abandoned during development.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
"I-IF I CAN'T HAVE NEWCULT, NOBODY CAN H-HAVE ANY CULT!!"Zilenan91 wrote:Neither are good if I'm honest. Cult really just needs to be removed pending a full rework of the core gameplay. It was never "good" after it was abandoned during development.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Basically yeah. Newcult isn't good, and Oldcult is even worse. Modes that make players not want to play a role period should not exist.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
denialZilenan91 wrote:Newcult isn't good, and Oldcult is even worse.
de·ni·al /dəˈnīəl/
noun
- the action of declaring something to be untrue.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Zilenan this poll wasn't keep new cult or remove new cult it was keep newcult or go back to old cult.
PEOPLE PREFER OLD CULT TO NEW CULT.
A VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.
PEOPLE PREFER OLD CULT TO NEW CULT.
A VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.
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Personally I don't think Oldcult was great.
But its a hell of a lot better than Newcult, say what you will about the older iteration of cult but at least they worked as a game mode and they gave both factions a reasonable chance of success without giving either faction a undetectable, undodgeable, insanly long duration and free stun.
But its a hell of a lot better than Newcult, say what you will about the older iteration of cult but at least they worked as a game mode and they gave both factions a reasonable chance of success without giving either faction a undetectable, undodgeable, insanly long duration and free stun.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
You see, if Zil doesn't like something he'll throw a shitfit till it gets changed and keep pressing it to try and make it seem like a big deal. Oldcult wasn't perfect but nothing about new cult works.newfren wrote:Zilenan this poll wasn't keep new cult or remove new cult it was keep newcult or go back to old cult.
PEOPLE PREFER OLD CULT TO NEW CULT.
A VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.
Law 0: Secborg din do nuffin.
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I can't be the only one who misses research cult.Kor wrote:I guess someone open a PR if everyone feels so strongly.
I really don't see the point of oldcult without research though. Rev with magic.
I would rather see the mode finally given up on honestly. It has been hated for 5 years now.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Literally, yes. Whining about something constantly until it's changed is the only way to do anything here. I was the guy who screamed about bombing the blob so much that someone removed it, and I was also one of the guys who screamed about stun paper until it got removed. It gives results.Davidchan wrote:snip.newfren wrote:Zilenan this poll wasn't keep new cult or remove new cult it was keep newcult or go back to old cult.
PEOPLE PREFER OLD CULT TO NEW CULT.
A VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.
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Zil, at first I felt bad for shitting all over something you worked on, but now you're acting like a spoiled little shit. The vast, vast majority of players prefer oldcult. It wasn't perfect, but it's entirely fixable.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
It's not fixable. If it was fixable people would have done that.
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It is perfectly fucking fixable. You just don't want it to be fixed now because you don't want to admit that your version of cult is terribly unpopular. Most of the gripes with oldcult can be fixed without gutting the mode. The poll is proof of that. Your solution is just garbage.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
I didn't code it. I never once said that I ever coded any of this.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
luke just fucking ignore zilenan, he's a total fucking retard who has said this game should be more like dota 2 and spends 40 percent of this time on this forum crying about getting stunned on the feedback forum. he's clearly neurodivergent.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Sweet dreams newcult
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
go drink your juice (in a box, not a bottle) and let the adults discuss the path the server is gonna take there, Temple Grandin.Zilenan91 wrote:your face is neurodivergent
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
Idea: Keep the no converting mechanic of new cult, but instead of a single cult, start the round with a small number of individual cultists, who each have their own cult, and start with every single rune. Winner is the first cultist to summon Nar-Sie.
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Eh, I think that conversion was fine in cult. In fact, cult was the best conversion mode in my opinion. Unlike rev and gang where it's instantaneous, you actually have to abduct somebody, drag them to a remote area, and convert them with 3 cultists all while keeping them from screaming over radio
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
So gangsThunder11 wrote:Idea: Keep the no converting mechanic of new cult, but instead of a single cult, start the round with a small number of individual cultists, who each have their own cult, and start with every single rune. Winner is the first cultist to summon Nar-Sie.
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Gangs of Nar'Sie.ShadowDimentio wrote:So gangsThunder11 wrote:Idea: Keep the no converting mechanic of new cult, but instead of a single cult, start the round with a small number of individual cultists, who each have their own cult, and start with every single rune. Winner is the first cultist to summon Nar-Sie.
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
there is literally nothing wrong with drinking juice out of a box it's simply better for the environment and a superior storage solution okay
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
You know, I told you this would happen, and see where we are now?
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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Re: Oldcult vs Newcult: The Poll
drinking juice out of boxesXhuis wrote:You know, I told you this would happen, and see where we are now?
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