plasmemen helmets

[PKPenguin321]

Plasmamen helmets obscure their headsets, meaning unless you have an EMP you can't reliably disable their comms without igniting them (which most often kills them). This super cucked me when I was a shadowling one time (actually I ended up doing well after that, but the plasmadude died so I guess it actually super cucked him), so in a way this is kinda i ded pls nerf.

tl;dr: put the headsets outside the plasmaman helmet so they can be stripped without killing the fucker

[Luke Cox]

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, plasmamen are supposed to be incredibly fragile. On the other hand, being able to hide a headset is arguably an advantage, and plasmamen should be at a disadvantage wherever possible. I guess it depends on whichever is the bigger disadvantage.

[ATDoop]

Plasmaman helmets are also immune to flashes, because of the whole welding thing. That means they can't be converted by revs.

[CPTANT]

Plasmaman helmets are also immune to flashes, because of the whole welding thing. That means they can't be converted by revs.

Yes this cucked me yesterday, tried to convert a plasmamen, flash does nothing he goes on to scream how I am a revhead.

[Saegrimr]

So the same reason the plasmaman jumpsuit is a jumpsuit and not an exosuit. Can be solved by making it a plasmaman facewrap or something and going in the mask slot. That way you can equip headgear like welding helmets.

[Zilenan91]

Or just make welding goggles printable in the autolathe and remove their weld/flash protection.

[Saegrimr]

That wont fix obscured headsets either.

[CPTANT]

Or just don't introduce snowflake races like we already said a million times.

[Luke Cox]

Make the helmet a mask item. Has the added benefit of preventing them from wearing welding goggles or concealing their faces.

Or just don't introduce snowflake races like we already said a million times.

Normally I'd agree, but Plasmaman is SS13 hardmode. Playing one is meant to be absolute hell.

[oranges]

Just set them on fire

who would want a plasmaman thrall anyway

On a more serious note I don't see the issue with this - you will have to approach different species differently.

[PKPenguin321]

Just set them on fire

who would want a plasmaman thrall anyway

On a more serious note I don't see the issue with this - you will have to approach different species differently.

the thing is that there is no approach because attempting to convert them results in accidental murder, especially in rev

[oranges]

I'm honestly not bothered by this although I see what you mean.

[Davidchan]

Always having welding protection does seem kinda silly. Can we make it a visor or something that darkens the mask and gives them welding overlay, removing their rev immunity unless they wanna walk around blind.

Making the ear piece always visible would be a must though

[Sweaterkittens]

*LOUD SIGH*

The reason we switched to jumpsuits for Plasmamen during the design phase was because it was just more intuitive and easier to make work. It also makes it so that they can be searched without them bursting into flames. My coder was SUPPOSED to make it so that their headsets/eyewear etc. could be searched through the helmet as well, but that never happened. I'll add it to the list of things to fix, as that should absolutely be searchable without putting sec/a sling in the tight spot of, "Do I want to search/strip this guy more than I want him to not be on fire?"

Personally, I have no problem with the flash/welding protection, it's one of the few holdovers from their old helmets (which also had inbuilt lights, RIP). Lorewise they're a mostly nonviolent race so having them not participate as a rev is just fine, and it means they're 10x more likely to get ganked by revs anyway, which is hardly an advantage. I'm not too keen on removing it because someone made the mistake of trying to flash them without knowing that they have protection.

I do like Davidchan's idea of having it be toggleable though, that's something I could potentially look into in the future. I am going to focus on getting the major issues like them being eternal fire hazards, and being unable to search/strip their headset, fixed first.