1.3* damage boost

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Damage boost like?

Yeah
2
8%
No
5
21%
Didn't notice
17
71%
 
Total votes: 24

yackemflam
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1.3* damage boost

Post by yackemflam » #206536

The server had a damage boost for a while now, did you guys like it?
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A retards guide on how to make a maxcap bomb in toxins.
NSFW:
You`ll need:
1-6 Plasma tanks 1-6 Oxygen tanks
1-6 tank transfer valve
2 Plasma canister
2 Oxygen canister
1 Yellow (empty) canister
Wrench
Toxins lab access
Science testing lab access

Grab a oxygen tank and a plasma tank and bring them to the testing lab.
Super cool the Oxygen and superheat the Plasma.

Clean out the oxygen and plasma tanks with a filter/pump.

Then you wrench and unwrench the plasma and oxygen tanks in toxins. It`s important tha you do it one at a time. Try to get a 85%plasma and 15% oxygen mix.

Once you have a good burn mix, pump the mix into the burn chamber and light it on fire. Wait 10 seconds for it to heat up and pump it into a yellow (empty) canister.

Quickly set the kpa output to 163 kpa and fill the tanks with the burn mix.

Take the oxygen tanks and fill it up with a 613kpa worth of oxygen FIRST then fill the rest with plasma, you should get well over 2000kpa in the end.

With the new atmos system you should wait 5-10 minutes for you tanks to bake.

Take a tank transfer valve, add a oxygen tank and a plasma tank to it. You should have a maxcap bomb. Have fun blowing up the station mining!
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Bombadil » #206537

Third option: I didn't even notice it
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by TechnoAlchemist » #206548

yeah it wasn't noticable
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by yackemflam » #206557

There, a third option
'Didn't notice'
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I will admit I was laughing pretty hard during your skit in the boxing ring. - seagrimr
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Playing on the server isn't something you're entitled to. There's an extremely small level of responsibiliy on your part to play hhundreds of hours of a free game run by fuckheads. - Stickymayhem
A retards guide on how to make a maxcap bomb in toxins.
NSFW:
You`ll need:
1-6 Plasma tanks 1-6 Oxygen tanks
1-6 tank transfer valve
2 Plasma canister
2 Oxygen canister
1 Yellow (empty) canister
Wrench
Toxins lab access
Science testing lab access

Grab a oxygen tank and a plasma tank and bring them to the testing lab.
Super cool the Oxygen and superheat the Plasma.

Clean out the oxygen and plasma tanks with a filter/pump.

Then you wrench and unwrench the plasma and oxygen tanks in toxins. It`s important tha you do it one at a time. Try to get a 85%plasma and 15% oxygen mix.

Once you have a good burn mix, pump the mix into the burn chamber and light it on fire. Wait 10 seconds for it to heat up and pump it into a yellow (empty) canister.

Quickly set the kpa output to 163 kpa and fill the tanks with the burn mix.

Take the oxygen tanks and fill it up with a 613kpa worth of oxygen FIRST then fill the rest with plasma, you should get well over 2000kpa in the end.

With the new atmos system you should wait 5-10 minutes for you tanks to bake.

Take a tank transfer valve, add a oxygen tank and a plasma tank to it. You should have a maxcap bomb. Have fun blowing up the station mining!
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Cheridan
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Cheridan » #206559

I noticed that my BSA instacrit people instead of doing 99 damage. Please fix.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by iamgoofball » #206562

oh is this why the BSA crit me earlier

that explains some things

how long has this been running for, and why have coders not been notified? as this would explain why certain things are really overpowered right now
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Cheridan
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Cheridan » #206573

It also explains why I got instacrit by one powerfist punch the other day.

So yeah. I'd say it's generally not noticeable except in the case of things that were already extremely powerful (items which probably didnt need a boost to begin with?). A 5 damage crowbar gains 1.5 damage, an esword gains 9. But at 30 damage, a default esword will crit you in 4 hits. At 39 damage it takes 3. So damage-wise it doesn't have a huge impact.

The most powerful item is a ghost sword with a lot of ghosts orbiting the user. Its 75 damage would get boosted to 97.5.

What I DID notice, actually, was the increase in fucking KOs. Knockout chance on weapons aimed at head is literally the force, aimed at the chest it's force+10. 40% vs 49% to score a knockdown in the case of an esword IS significant since they're instawins.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by paprika » #206577

Someone remove the knockdown on head shit, it does not make the game nor melee fights fun
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by oranges » #206596

It finally proves that ss13's combat is so unbalanced you can modify the forces by 30% and nobody even notices.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Jazaen » #206603

oranges wrote:It finally proves that ss13's combat is so unbalanced you can modify the forces by 30% and nobody even notices.
But if you modified stun times by 0.5 of a second everyone would notice!
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by lzimann » #206608

I disabled the 30% boost because I really don't see a point in doing this "test"
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by onleavedontatme » #206609

oranges wrote:It finally proves that ss13's combat is so unbalanced you can modify the forces by 30% and nobody even notices.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by kevinz000 » #206762

paprika wrote:Someone remove the knockdown on head shit, it does not make the game nor melee fights fun
Random knockouts are not fair and not balanced.
Neither are knockdowns.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Falamazeer » #206764

If it were not for the blue space anomaly this woulda been fine. Never noticed the rest.

Guess we're all stupid for shitting on kors armor value change, if it does anything, this test proves that unless it's stuns KOs or knockdown, it's not a real fight.

we should fix that. remove tasers replace with lasers, keep the 30% damage, and make epi-pens a bit more awesome.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by ShadowDimentio » #206790

If you're prepared to move to lethalsec we're ready to go with you, but only if YOU'RE the one to get in shit when people get shot by sec for resisting arrest and die.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Luke Cox » #206968

If literally nobody likes it we might as well remove it, although to be honest I didn't even notice.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by yackemflam » #207027

Luke, most people didnt even NOTICED. That means we need to crank it up a notch.
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I will admit I was laughing pretty hard during your skit in the boxing ring. - seagrimr
Spoiler:
Playing on the server isn't something you're entitled to. There's an extremely small level of responsibiliy on your part to play hhundreds of hours of a free game run by fuckheads. - Stickymayhem
A retards guide on how to make a maxcap bomb in toxins.
NSFW:
You`ll need:
1-6 Plasma tanks 1-6 Oxygen tanks
1-6 tank transfer valve
2 Plasma canister
2 Oxygen canister
1 Yellow (empty) canister
Wrench
Toxins lab access
Science testing lab access

Grab a oxygen tank and a plasma tank and bring them to the testing lab.
Super cool the Oxygen and superheat the Plasma.

Clean out the oxygen and plasma tanks with a filter/pump.

Then you wrench and unwrench the plasma and oxygen tanks in toxins. It`s important tha you do it one at a time. Try to get a 85%plasma and 15% oxygen mix.

Once you have a good burn mix, pump the mix into the burn chamber and light it on fire. Wait 10 seconds for it to heat up and pump it into a yellow (empty) canister.

Quickly set the kpa output to 163 kpa and fill the tanks with the burn mix.

Take the oxygen tanks and fill it up with a 613kpa worth of oxygen FIRST then fill the rest with plasma, you should get well over 2000kpa in the end.

With the new atmos system you should wait 5-10 minutes for you tanks to bake.

Take a tank transfer valve, add a oxygen tank and a plasma tank to it. You should have a maxcap bomb. Have fun blowing up the station mining!
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Luke Cox » #207031

yackemflam wrote:Luke, nobody liked it so we need to do it even more
Okay then
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by DemonFiren » #207038

Luke Cox wrote:
yackemflam wrote:Luke, nobody liked it so we need to do it even more
Okay then
Look at the poll results, dipshit.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Falamazeer » #207043

well, didn't notice is kinda skewing the results, If I could pick two I'd say I didn't notice, and I like it.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Luke Cox » #207315

DemonFiren wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:
yackemflam wrote:Luke, nobody liked it so we need to do it even more
Okay then
Look at the poll results, dipshit.
Hornygranny tried this when he was sperging out with retarded tests, only with a more extreme damage boost. It was not well received.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by DemonFiren » #207323

Well, that's most likely a) because HG, and b) because that was too much.
So elevate it little by little without the influence of the code cuck.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by ShadowDimentio » #207327

What did this test even seek to accomplish?
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"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
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"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
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">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by lzimann » #207338

Luke Cox wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:
yackemflam wrote:Luke, nobody liked it so we need to do it even more
Okay then
Look at the poll results, dipshit.
Hornygranny tried this when he was sperging out with retarded tests, only with a more extreme damage boost. It was not well received.
It was not well received because that was bugged and fucked up with cloning and some other shit. This new one is working fine(except for admin BSA I think).
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by onleavedontatme » #207351

ShadowDimentio wrote:What did this test even seek to accomplish?
Nothing. The code for the config was only ever test merged last time, and when it got removed nobody ever bothered to remove the line from the config text file locally.

So when the code got finished and readded that line started mattering again, but nobody bothered changing it for a week and nobody even noticed.
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by ShadowDimentio » #207624

Perhaps in the future running tests that actually have a point would be nice.
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"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf

"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem

"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321

"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo

"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare

"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy

"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf

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-Bluespace

">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
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Re: 1.3* damage boost

Post by Luke Cox » #207631

We'd be much better off buffing injuries themselves (see the Baymed thread). A flat damage boost is haphazard and ineffective. All it means is that it takes slightly shorter to beat the guy you just slipped into crit.
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