why is dual energy sword 75% block
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why is dual energy sword 75% block
why does it have 75% block on everything on top of 100% block on energy projectiles?
given shotguns have spread, that means 2 of the projectiles won't hit (outside of point blank), but also three of four projectiles gets blocked.
given shotguns have spread, that means 2 of the projectiles won't hit (outside of point blank), but also three of four projectiles gets blocked.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Because its meant to be the "I'm casting any pretense of stealth aside and making myself big and scary target for sec to deal with" thing, not the "I slash two guys and then get telebatoned" thing.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Because dual eswords are meant to be dealt with by dogpiling the fuck waving them around or by gitting gud.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Do they block thrown shit? I remember that youtuber pulling a dual-esword rampage in medbay and was stopped by someone throwing glass shards at him.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
I always thought it was 50%...
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Pies are the most robust anti-eswords device.Screemonster wrote:Do they block thrown shit? I remember that youtuber pulling a dual-esword rampage in medbay and was stopped by someone throwing glass shards at him.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
>not grabbing the guy currently being cut down by the murderboner aggressively and slamming his now legless body into the eswordman
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Energy Swords can be defeated by shooting them with chems
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Eswords can't block plasma fires.
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this tbph dead bodies are fucking R O B U S TThe unloved rock wrote:>not grabbing the guy currently being cut down by the murderboner aggressively and slamming his now legless body into the eswordman
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Well its true that flamethrowers are pretty robust versus double eswords.Saegrimr wrote:Eswords can't block plasma fires.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
slip them, throw a corpse at them, try something that isnt shooting them
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
there should be a fan of doom setting where you forego directly attacking people and instead turn it into a spinning blade of death where you run into people and chop them up.
throwing anything at them causes the thrown item to get chopped up but if they slip then the wielder gets chopped up themselves.
throwing anything at them causes the thrown item to get chopped up but if they slip then the wielder gets chopped up themselves.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
>implying they didn't buy noslipsPKPenguin321 wrote:slip them, throw a corpse at them, try something that isnt shooting them
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Because noslips block corpses rightShaps wrote:>implying they didn't buy noslipsPKPenguin321 wrote:slip them, throw a corpse at them, try something that isnt shooting them
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Esword can't block cyberbullying either, it's what I resort to most of the time. (Or just try and disarm them you pussy)
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Funny part is every single person I've seen try to use a flamethrower on tg set themselves on fire. Pnuematic cannon does pretty good at dealing with eswords thou, if you can make one before he finds and chops you down.CPTANT wrote:Well its true that flamethrowers are pretty robust versus double eswords.Saegrimr wrote:Eswords can't block plasma fires.
I guess the only problem I have with the d-sword is that it has increased block rate AND increased damage. One or the other would be fine, but both at once pretty much force minmax shenanigans
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
there is literally no shortage of person-projectiles on the station, some of which are actually willing to be tossed at an esword attackerPKPenguin321 wrote:Because noslips block corpses rightShaps wrote:>implying they didn't buy noslipsPKPenguin321 wrote:slip them, throw a corpse at them, try something that isnt shooting them
you don't need to blow a hole in the fucking hull just huck your fellow man at your enemy man
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Yes which why you carry either a firesuit, an extinquisher, burn patches or all of the above.Davidchan wrote:Funny part is every single person I've seen try to use a flamethrower on tg set themselves on fire. Pnuematic cannon does pretty good at dealing with eswords thou, if you can make one before he finds and chops you down.CPTANT wrote:Well its true that flamethrowers are pretty robust versus double eswords.Saegrimr wrote:Eswords can't block plasma fires.
I guess the only problem I have with the d-sword is that it has increased block rate AND increased damage. One or the other would be fine, but both at once pretty much force minmax shenanigans
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Do pneumatic cannons spray the gas into the room here like they do on baycode?
Loading a cannon with a tank of burn mix and filling it with lit welders is hilarious on servers that do, parry that ya darth maul fuck.
Loading a cannon with a tank of burn mix and filling it with lit welders is hilarious on servers that do, parry that ya darth maul fuck.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
They do not, and they should, and I said that months ago but fun is illegal.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Firesuit gives slowdown and people can outrun you more easily. To use an extinguisher/patches requires you to turn the e-sword off even if only briefly.
It gives other people a window to put you down essentially.
It gives other people a window to put you down essentially.
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FUND ITScreemonster wrote:Do pneumatic cannons spray the gas into the room here like they do on baycode?
Loading a cannon with a tank of burn mix and filling it with lit welders is hilarious on servers that do, parry that ya darth maul fuck.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Uh, this is more advice for when you are the one throwing fire everywhere.Anonmare wrote:Firesuit gives slowdown and people can outrun you more easily. To use an extinguisher/patches requires you to turn the e-sword off even if only briefly.
It gives other people a window to put you down essentially.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
you guys remember when pkp suggested a viable alternative to SCORCHED EARTH SUFFER NOT A DUAL ESWORD TO LIVEIcePacks wrote:there is literally no shortage of person-projectiles on the station, some of which are actually willing to be tossed at an esword attackerPKPenguin321 wrote:Because noslips block corpses rightShaps wrote:>implying they didn't buy noslipsPKPenguin321 wrote:slip them, throw a corpse at them, try something that isnt shooting them
you don't need to blow a hole in the fucking hull just huck your fellow man at your enemy man
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
The individual dual esword object has 50% block, but both the dual esword and the phantom object that goes in your empty hand have this block chance- so in practice 75% of strikes will be blocked.CPTANT wrote:I always thought it was 50%...
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Nah, it got changed to just have a flat 75 chance on the dual saber itself.Drynwyn wrote:The individual dual esword object has 50% block, but both the dual esword and the phantom object that goes in your empty hand have this block chance- so in practice 75% of strikes will be blocked.CPTANT wrote:I always thought it was 50%...
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Damnit what use is the ability to read code properly if you guys are gonna go make everything all MAINTAINABLEKor wrote:Nah, it got changed to just have a flat 75 chance on the dual saber itself.Drynwyn wrote:The individual dual esword object has 50% block, but both the dual esword and the phantom object that goes in your empty hand have this block chance- so in practice 75% of strikes will be blocked.CPTANT wrote:I always thought it was 50%...
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Eswords cant block KAs hahahaah!
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
They also can't block pepperspray and flashbangs.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
throwable eswords when
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
They already are throwable.Doctor Pork wrote:throwable eswords when
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They can be thrown and they can embed. They also have a shitload of throwforce last I checkedDoctor Pork wrote:throwable eswords when
I genuinely believe throwing is the next evolution of robustness
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
floor tiles are robust because they stack. Sure they're not bad as thrown weapons but the real robust-value is being able to carry like a hundred of them into a fight.CosmicScientist wrote:Were you not around for floor tile memes?PKPenguin321 wrote:They can be thrown and they can embed. They also have a shitload of throwforce last I checkedDoctor Pork wrote:throwable eswords when
I genuinely believe throwing is the next evolution of robustness
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Oh no those are excellent too but how often do you see people actually using them? Untapped metaCosmicScientist wrote:Were you not around for floor tile memes?PKPenguin321 wrote:They can be thrown and they can embed. They also have a shitload of throwforce last I checkedDoctor Pork wrote:throwable eswords when
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No one uses floortiles anymore because they suck now. When I was new to the game a guy got me with floor tiles, it was sad.
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HG nerfed floor tile damage into the ground because unlike being strong coder of your dreams he was just another salt entity.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Use a bola sec has a ton, and they're easy to make. Anyone moving slow is an easy target to any of the other weapons available to kill them.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
You can put bolas into pneumatic cannons to shoot them super fast and far.Jembo wrote:Use a bola sec has a ton, and they're easy to make. Anyone moving slow is an easy target to any of the other weapons available to kill them.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
I made the change from 50% to 75% because:
1) Dual Eswords were a joke
2) Esword + Chair would give you 75% block with the same amount of damage as a dual esword
Since dual eswords were being outclassed by esword + a fucking chair, I buffed the dual esword to 75%. Seems pretty fitting given the 500 counters available and the super overt nature of the weapon.
1) Dual Eswords were a joke
2) Esword + Chair would give you 75% block with the same amount of damage as a dual esword
Since dual eswords were being outclassed by esword + a fucking chair, I buffed the dual esword to 75%. Seems pretty fitting given the 500 counters available and the super overt nature of the weapon.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Even ignoring the counters...why wouldn't it be? It's a massive investment of TC's and paints a giant valid sign on you.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Dual energy sword NEEDS to be strong and robust. It carries MASSIVE downsides. Dual e-sworders get taken out by assistants and the clown enough already!
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
Uh, point two is wrong on pretty much all counts; percentage chances don't stack like that, the esword's damage is slightly lower(one more hit to crit), and, as a bonus note, chairs can only block unarmed attacks, like punching/disarm.Oldman Robustin wrote:I made the change from 50% to 75% because:
1) Dual Eswords were a joke
2) Esword + Chair would give you 75% block with the same amount of damage as a dual esword
Since dual eswords were being outclassed by esword + a fucking chair, I buffed the dual esword to 75%. Seems pretty fitting given the 500 counters available and the super overt nature of the weapon.
So that means effectively your reasoning for buffing the dual esword was "Dual Eswords were a joke" which, uh, may not have been true at all.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
I mean, they were still a joke. Buying a dual esword makes you valid to the max and announces your intent to be a murderboner cunt, they sort of needed the boost.
However i still think the desword exemplifies the worst part of traitor (go kill everyone lel XD)
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
I don't know why people say it puts you out to be lynched.
>Buy dual swords
>Fake Id
>Get gasmasl or other mask
>Kill someone, bolt into maint change name on ID
>Shower blood off
>Act like a pubbie assistant that doesn't know what they're doing until you find next victim.
Ai can't track your new ID I don't think, the mask prevents that.
>Buy dual swords
>Fake Id
>Get gasmasl or other mask
>Kill someone, bolt into maint change name on ID
>Shower blood off
>Act like a pubbie assistant that doesn't know what they're doing until you find next victim.
Ai can't track your new ID I don't think, the mask prevents that.
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Re: why is dual energy sword 75% block
If you're going to play secret undetectable murderman, there's much better options than the dual esword.
Also I did make the change before dismembermemes were a thing. Eswords got a huge buff from that change.
Also I did make the change before dismembermemes were a thing. Eswords got a huge buff from that change.
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