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the quality at which it was 'translated' is fine, I'm noticing more the errors of the initial spriteThe Female Body
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Re: The Female Body
It's good to hear they're (roughly) up to standards!imblyings wrote:the quality at which it was 'translated' is fine, I'm noticing more the errors of the initial sprite
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I'm a little worried about disguises, this would end up making genetics/being a changeling a requirement to impersonate someone of the opposite gender.
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There's already a mild difference between the genders in terms of uniforms, it's just more pronounced here.XDTM wrote:I'm a little worried about disguises, this would end up making genetics/being a changeling a requirement to impersonate someone of the opposite gender.
The answer to date is wear an exosuit. The only problem here is the legs, since a lot of less auspicious exosuits like labsuits still show the legs a bit.
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Re: The Female Body
The disguising ship sailed a long time ago. It's impossible to disguise as anyone unless you're wearing an exosuit.
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If you don't speak, wear a hat and hide your face you can usually pass as someone else.
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Tool delayed for a bit, tried flipping the coords for East to get the West coords and it's only partially correct and it's annoying me so, not today folks.
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Re: The Female Body
Side note, would it be possible to have a gender/species toggle for the chameleon jumpsuit?
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ChameleonWyzack wrote:Side note, would it be possible to have a gender/species toggle for the chameleon jumpsuit?
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Re: The Female Body
literally thisPKPenguin321 wrote:ChameleonWyzack wrote:Side note, would it be possible to have a gender/species toggle for the chameleon jumpsuit?
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[demonfiren intensifies]PKPenguin321 wrote:ChameleonWyzack wrote:Side note, would it be possible to have a gender/species toggle for the chameleon jumpsuit?
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> tfw flirting with a cute girl in the bar
> tfw it turns out to be a disguised ligger
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Re: The Female Body
This is some fantastic groundwork being laid. Major props to Remie for overcoming some of those initial hurdles with that tool. My own two cents with regards to disguises is that it just adds another interesting layer to the traitor game. Someone moving at full speed down the hallway in in the HoS' full armament won't get a second glance at. If they're faking the ID any brief mouse-over will still only show the name. But like any disguise, if you get a good look at someone, small discrepancies should show. Trying to pass yourself off as someone else of the opposite gender perfectly should be a niche reserved for traitor gear designed specifically for disguises. They can already make you the perfect imitation of a cigarette, changing what's in your pants should be no trouble for the Syndicate.
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Re: The Female Body
Been lurking in this thread for a while, thought I'd chime in.
While I agree that the base sprite is terrible and needs change, I don't like how radically different the new one is shaping up to be. Not only does it add more work for spriters, but as people have said, it makes it harder to disguise. I don't want to start a Tumblr train either, but they just aren't... very good to me. It's more of a distinct sprite, yes, but to me it looks ugly, and doesn't resemble a human well at all. I think that both genders should keep the same silhouette, both for disguise and because having a hardsuit bent in such proportions as seem to be on the way would probably be immensely painful.
Not saying that I can do any of this better, of course. I just think that it's another case of passable sprites being completely changed in a controversial way, like the three fourths debate we're suffering through right now. If anything, I think that the female sprite might be slimmer, so that you can't tell a difference unless you actually look. I still support identical silhouettes, however.
While I agree that the base sprite is terrible and needs change, I don't like how radically different the new one is shaping up to be. Not only does it add more work for spriters, but as people have said, it makes it harder to disguise. I don't want to start a Tumblr train either, but they just aren't... very good to me. It's more of a distinct sprite, yes, but to me it looks ugly, and doesn't resemble a human well at all. I think that both genders should keep the same silhouette, both for disguise and because having a hardsuit bent in such proportions as seem to be on the way would probably be immensely painful.
Not saying that I can do any of this better, of course. I just think that it's another case of passable sprites being completely changed in a controversial way, like the three fourths debate we're suffering through right now. If anything, I think that the female sprite might be slimmer, so that you can't tell a difference unless you actually look. I still support identical silhouettes, however.
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Re: The Female Body
Hardsuits are by definition and name a Hard Suit, they should not fit the form of the person who wears them
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Wyzack wrote:Hardsuits are by definition and name a Hard Suit, they should not fit the form of the person who wears them
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Re: The Female Body
im pretty sure our hardsuits are actually just ripoff of deadspace's RIG suits which are basically skin tight space clothes with plates strapped on
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Re: The Female Body
Humans are made of limbs, right?
We have digitigrade legs because of this system. Why not have male/female legs for humans, and revert to male legs in the event of a full body suit, like we do with lizards already?
We have digitigrade legs because of this system. Why not have male/female legs for humans, and revert to male legs in the event of a full body suit, like we do with lizards already?
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I don't see why they need to look so different to begin with.
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Perhaps to you, but your opinion is not fact. Neither is mine. I've already stated my opinion that the sprites we have now are bad in quality; I just disagree with the extreme difference in build that seems to be emerging. It looks very strangely proportioned. Although the male sprites aren't good either, they make sense. With the new ones, the abdomen area is very slim, and the upper legs are incredibly large and funnel down into sticks. Again, it's clearly higher quality - but hard work does not a good sprite make.
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I'd wager they make sense because you are used to it, against more normally proportioned humans, the current ones look like deformed kids.
Outside of opinion, there are 2 pixels less for width for detail across the 3 pixel long slimmed area, so spriters will need to adapt slightly. The legs do taper down but they are actually just as wide as the male ones. Along with changes to the feet, hands, waist and arms, dare i say it, the sprite is more anatomically reminiscent of an anatomically correct body than the lw one. If there ever was an issue its those changes reducing the area available for spriters in an already cramped sprite size. However, it's nothing that can't be mitigated by careful placing of pixels.
Outside of opinion, there are 2 pixels less for width for detail across the 3 pixel long slimmed area, so spriters will need to adapt slightly. The legs do taper down but they are actually just as wide as the male ones. Along with changes to the feet, hands, waist and arms, dare i say it, the sprite is more anatomically reminiscent of an anatomically correct body than the lw one. If there ever was an issue its those changes reducing the area available for spriters in an already cramped sprite size. However, it's nothing that can't be mitigated by careful placing of pixels.
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No they are original content we do not steal things from other games okay.Kel wrote:im pretty sure our hardsuits are actually just ripoff of deadspace's RIG suits which are basically skin tight space clothes with plates strapped on
totally original content.
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Our Hardsuits were originally and literally called RIG Suits.
Someone on coderbus, or some people, decided to rename them.
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Remie Richards wrote:Ok so East is "in"
If I said before N/S were converted with about 90-95% quality, I'd say East was converted with 85-90% quality, it's just a vastly more complex set of pixels to sample and move around.
I won't be doing West today as East has completely drained me, even though the work involved would only really be flipping some pixel coordinates, I'm really out of it for today.
Expect the tool to be done tomorrow/day after.
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Re: The Female Body
skipping over the last two pages (because who reads threads anyways)
but at what point did we prefect gene modification and get perfectly thicc females across the board no matter what
also, generally speaking you could just add female specific jumpsuits, exosuits, and helmets that fit their form better than the standard mens jumpsuit, bigger tits, thicc'er thighs, thinner arms
but at what point did we prefect gene modification and get perfectly thicc females across the board no matter what
also, generally speaking you could just add female specific jumpsuits, exosuits, and helmets that fit their form better than the standard mens jumpsuit, bigger tits, thicc'er thighs, thinner arms
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The issue seems to be that with 32*32 sprites there isn't much we can do in the way of subtle differences. Either they're basically the same or they're completely different. Making disguises or masquerading as another gender would be made very hard with the latter, which is why I support the former.
And no, disguises are not hard. I've stealth opped many times without buying a single stealth item, and if you can snag a jumpsuit that fits your quarry you're usually good. People don't pay attention to things.
And no, disguises are not hard. I've stealth opped many times without buying a single stealth item, and if you can snag a jumpsuit that fits your quarry you're usually good. People don't pay attention to things.
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Re: The Female Body
slap a pair of C cup tits on every chest clothing and call it a day
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The hardsuit used to look just like a RIG and was named RIG but someone threw a hissyfit about copyright so both the sprite and name were changed.
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Every time someone complains about copyright in SS13, take a shot.
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CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
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I don't want to get fucking alcohol poisoning thank youXhuis wrote:Every time someone complains about copyright in SS13, take a shot.
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You'd get poisoned after one shot. You do remember how my initial alcohol refactor went, right?Qbopper wrote:I don't want to get fucking alcohol poisoning thank youXhuis wrote:Every time someone complains about copyright in SS13, take a shot.
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Ayy lmao
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That's nothing try this gameQbopper wrote:I don't want to get fucking alcohol poisoning thank youXhuis wrote:Every time someone complains about copyright in SS13, take a shot.
Every time somebody admits to disliking something purely because they dislike change, take a shot
Every time somebody accuses somebody of disliking something purely because they dislike change, take three shots
You'll die
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Speed up the process by using a gun to source the shots.PKPenguin321 wrote:That's nothing try this gameQbopper wrote:I don't want to get fucking alcohol poisoning thank youXhuis wrote:Every time someone complains about copyright in SS13, take a shot.
Every time somebody admits to disliking something purely because they dislike change, take a shot
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You'll die
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I want larger male jumpsuits, so re-make all the clothing to accomodate my enormous wobbling dong is basically the arguement. No.
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FFS guys just make them itty bitty (you most of the time only see the larger bra anyway), it'll be funnier if we add fat state and then nobody can tell the difference between male & female. The male endowment on the model is already extremely small so really there isn't much reason to put big BAZONGA's on a model and redo everything to shoehorn it in. We don't even have different clothing sprites as current.
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FFS guys just make them itty bitty (you most of the time only see the larger bra anyway), it'll be funnier if we add fat state and then nobody can tell the difference between male & female. The male endowment on the model is already extremely small so really there isn't much reason to put big BAZONGA's on a model and redo everything to shoehorn it in. We don't even have different clothing sprites as current.
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If development on the tool has died I'd be interested in whats there already if Remie is ok with releasing it. Even if female sprites is a bit much to ask fatsprites with this would not be hard seems like
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Re: The Female Body
It's not dead, I'm just busy.
N/S/W are all done, East was *attempted* but wasn't as easy as flipping the coordinates (no Idea why to be honest), and I'm not keen on just running West and mirroring it at the final step.
I'll get to it, don't worry, even if I have to set aside 10-15 minutes to work out all of the coordinates by hand (again)
N/S/W are all done, East was *attempted* but wasn't as easy as flipping the coordinates (no Idea why to be honest), and I'm not keen on just running West and mirroring it at the final step.
I'll get to it, don't worry, even if I have to set aside 10-15 minutes to work out all of the coordinates by hand (again)
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Re: The Female Body
There is a one pixel shift to the left, did you account for that?
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Space elves already exist as far as over the top zelda ears go, though im not even sure the point earedness would make a remarkable difference. *Mainly to demonstrate the effect of adding ears to the sprite, you will verge towards inevitable elf/vulcan memes*
Props to the person who created it for Iamgoofballs closed PR
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the fuck is a vulcan
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isn't that a gunJohn_Oxford wrote:the fuck is a vulcan
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Re: The Female Body
No. As the person who made the fucking ear sprites that actually looked different and were not a pixel off the standard ones, no.FantasticFwoosh wrote:Space elves already exist as far as over the top zelda ears go, though im not even sure the point earedness would make a remarkable difference. *Mainly to demonstrate the effect of adding ears to the sprite, you will verge towards inevitable elf/vulcan memes*
Props to the person who created it for Iamgoofballs closed PR
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Re: The Female Body
>mfw there actually wasn't a pixel shift and east/west are exactly mirrored after all
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Re: The Female Body
is this project kill
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rip project
remie pls drop the source i beg
remie pls drop the source i beg
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