How to have a Hostage Crisis
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How to have a Hostage Crisis
It's been forever since I've seen a hostage crisis. Despite how easy it is to restrain someone using handcuffs, taking hostages is hard because security will just run in, ignore you killing your hostage, kill you and space you and clone your hostage.
I want some ideas on how to take hostages as a traitor. Has anyone pulled this off? How did they do it?
I want some ideas on how to take hostages as a traitor. Has anyone pulled this off? How did they do it?
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
The best way is to hold the station hostage. Make some very powerful bombs, put them on signallers, and hide them in smugglers' satchels in important locations. Proclaim that you have bombs around the station and unless your demands are met in X amount of time, you will detonate them. People will open lockers and search maintenance, not thinking to look for the satchels since nobody ever does. Just hold the signaller in your hand and make sure that there are cameras pointing at you so the AI can damn well see that you mean business. Keep the last bomb in your backpack so you can't be taken alive, and hook up an emergency signaler to a voice analyzer in case you get taken down. If someone tries to come for you, press the button. If they disobey, press the button. If your demands aren't met, press the fucking button. If you're lucky, your demands will be met. Then revert to your normal identity (you did disguise right?) and play like normal.
Nobody will ever find the bombs, and if you feel like the shift goes on for too long, you always have the button to press...
Nobody will ever find the bombs, and if you feel like the shift goes on for too long, you always have the button to press...
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Tbh IC wise a hostage situation wouldn't do much good considering there's cloning, unless you had some manner of gibbing the body as well. You could also tie them up in an undisclosed location in maint and send out your demands from there
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
We just need to bring back the ability to plant C4 on people. Barring that, being able to use explosive implants on other people with a code word created by the implanter would be swell, too.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Wouldn't a cavity implant with a remote signaler on the C4 work?Danowar wrote:We just need to bring back the ability to plant C4 on people. Barring that, being able to use explosive implants on other people with a code word created by the implanter would be swell, too.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Nuke ops
Teleport onto the bridge when the captain is there
Bring the nuke
Subvert the AI from the upload
Arm the nuke for two minutes and stick it in the upload with lasers on.
Move the teleport beacon into upload
Close the firedoor to upload
Make your demands as two dozen morons teleport into laser hell, no one can break through and the AI plasmafucks any department giving you trouble.
Even if you die you win because the nuke is a dead man's switch.
Teleport onto the bridge when the captain is there
Bring the nuke
Subvert the AI from the upload
Arm the nuke for two minutes and stick it in the upload with lasers on.
Move the teleport beacon into upload
Close the firedoor to upload
Make your demands as two dozen morons teleport into laser hell, no one can break through and the AI plasmafucks any department giving you trouble.
Even if you die you win because the nuke is a dead man's switch.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Which is why you have somewhere you can't get tasered. When I tried I did it in the back left room of miningZilenan91 wrote:>start typing
>get tasered
>round over
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Which is why a syndicate bomb I think is the best solution for a hostage crisis, if they storm in to rescue the hostage, the hostage gets gibbed, you get gibbed, and the security team likely gets killedDavidchan wrote:Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
Does C4 in a cavity implant still gib?Luke Cox wrote:Wouldn't a cavity implant with a remote signaler on the C4 work?Danowar wrote:We just need to bring back the ability to plant C4 on people. Barring that, being able to use explosive implants on other people with a code word created by the implanter would be swell, too.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
well most hostage crises in real life also end up in police storming the place and we don't even have cloning in real life
bombs seem the way to go though
bombs seem the way to go though
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
I for one keep a list of players likely to RPDavidchan wrote:Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
also,
>hostages
> not just implanting bombs in people and making them do your bidding
people won't fight it because it gives them free reign to do antag stuff
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Have a bomb on you and be backed up into a corner with the hostage buckled to a chair in front of you to take shots. If someone tries to unbuckle them you blow everyone up.
It's easier to do this on goon because goon has BETTER proximity sensors.
It's easier to do this on goon because goon has BETTER proximity sensors.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
We do too baka
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
you can make dead man switch bombs/grenades now.
Make the activationmechanism the health sensor thing (hacked autolathe) and it will explode it the person it's on dies.
Make the activationmechanism the health sensor thing (hacked autolathe) and it will explode it the person it's on dies.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
yeah but at least the police pretend to care about the hostage's lives first.imblyings wrote:well most hostage crises in real life also end up in police storming the place and we don't even have cloning in real life
bombs seem the way to go though
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
well they do care that's why police usually send in dudes who are way more OP than the bad guys
maybe we should delete cloning for a few rounds and see if things change
maybe we should delete cloning for a few rounds and see if things change
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
We'd still be in a setting where you can fix being shot in the head with a bruise pack.imblyings wrote:well they do care that's why police usually send in dudes who are way more OP than the bad guys
maybe we should delete cloning for a few rounds and see if things change
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
I can only delete so many things before roundstart :^(
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
irrelevant, it takes one assistant with a toolbox in the right place and your list is fuckedasskek wrote:I for one keep a list of players likely to RPDavidchan wrote:Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Can you share?asskek wrote:I for one keep a list of players likely to RPDavidchan wrote:Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
That's why you shoot them in the head several times. Three revolver shots to the dome and they're done m8Kor wrote:We'd still be in a setting where you can fix being shot in the head with a bruise pack.imblyings wrote:well they do care that's why police usually send in dudes who are way more OP than the bad guys
maybe we should delete cloning for a few rounds and see if things change
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
It's mostly an off the top of my head thingTheNightingale wrote:Can you share?asskek wrote:I for one keep a list of players likely to RPDavidchan wrote:Hostage taking requires RP from you, your hostage and any group interested in getting your hostage out alive.
As it stands, nobody on the server will RP, especially if a valid presents themself, and security doesn't give a shit if they kill you AND the hostage, they'll just clone them. Maybe. If you want hostage taking go to Urist or some high rp server.
Ones I can think of immediately:
Smoke Shaw (Now that he's made his return)
Fortune Ray
Emmanuel Abravomich or however you spell it
Phoebe Lotsu
Kor
Whoever plays the IMPERIAL SOLDIER clown
Cadence Meme
Now, to stage a proper hostsge crisis, you also need a good AI. You can get an AI banned for revealing your location, sure, but that's only after they do so. I'm not really acquainted with which AIs are good and which are bad.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Are you kidding? I've kidnapped Ray twice and each time she went immediately braindead instead of playing along. She ragequits/suicides like that all the time when things don't go her way.asskek wrote: Fortune Ray
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
wow really? I mean last time I actually interacted with her was a while ago, like before my permabanDanowar wrote:Are you kidding? I've kidnapped Ray twice and each time she went immediately braindead instead of playing along. She ragequits/suicides like that all the time when things don't go her way.asskek wrote: Fortune Ray
so I might be recalling incorrectly
also I tend to find that most of the "quiet" players that just do their jobs complacently tend to RP the best
new players too
new players and randomnamers
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
(I'm IMPERIAL SOLDIER (Hail, citizen) and Cadence. My reputation precedes me.)
The trick to forcing a hostage crisis is having a guaranteed way to take your hostage out - a bomb, for example. If you can manage that (and have a hostage people care about), they'll be less likely to take risks and just gun you both down. A syringe gun with perfluorodecalin and neurotoxin still stops a remote signaller or voice analyser, though (so wear something syringeproof if you're worried about that). Once you have a hostage, you can make your demands.
The trick to forcing a hostage crisis is having a guaranteed way to take your hostage out - a bomb, for example. If you can manage that (and have a hostage people care about), they'll be less likely to take risks and just gun you both down. A syringe gun with perfluorodecalin and neurotoxin still stops a remote signaller or voice analyser, though (so wear something syringeproof if you're worried about that). Once you have a hostage, you can make your demands.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
I guess the health scanner thingy and maxcaps hidden everywhere are the way to go, if you want to do something. Also, this would work only on low-ish pop, since out of 60-something people there is always that one assistant with stunprod and spear ready to kill you. Maybe you could hide a bomb near singularity containment, or place a transmitter on PA wire responsible for level and state. Or relasable xeno pen. Whatever you do, you need to be SURE you have a dead man switch, and maybe demonstrate that you mean buisness by blowing up genetics (since then they will have way harder time of bringing hostages back, unless botany is robust or genetics went into "entire station in one department" phase)
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Steal the cloner boards from Tech Storage and build an autocloner in maintenance. Be swarmed by Assistants, explode and gib them all, then return post-cloning and repeat your demands.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Speaking of hostages, this would probably be the best if you were a ling. You can transform sting a random dude into your hostage, and then sell them off instead of the real one.
But still, this will never work
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But still, this will never work
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
>adrenals
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Taking a hostage then having a buddy ling replace the hostage and 'accidentally' losing the hostage to sec could be really fun though.
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Taking a hostage then having a buddy ling replace the hostage and 'accidentally' losing the hostage to sec could be really fun though.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Last time I tried a bomb hostage situation a validhunter engineer stunproded me, dragged me into main, stripped me, and threw me into space with my last bomb.
The rest were with timers, since I didn't trust the crew to honor my demands, and so they went off.
The rest were with timers, since I didn't trust the crew to honor my demands, and so they went off.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
See, on Bay or a heavy-RP station that engineer would be in the shit for "YOU CAPTURED THE GUY ALIVE, AND KILLED HIM BEFORE WE COULD INTERROGATE HIM? THOSE BOMBS ARE ON YOU, ASSHOLE" but that's not really such a thing round these parts.capi duffman wrote:Last time I tried a bomb hostage situation a validhunter engineer stunproded me, dragged me into main, stripped me, and threw me into space with my last bomb.
The rest were with timers, since I didn't trust the crew to honor my demands, and so they went off.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
fortune ray here, have you considered the possibility that maybe you are a creepy fuck I don't want to RP withDanowar wrote:Are you kidding? I've kidnapped Ray twice and each time she went immediately braindead instead of playing along. She ragequits/suicides like that all the time when things don't go her way.asskek wrote: Fortune Ray
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
fuck I was actually gonna make that point bandit
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
It's funny how you say that about me bandit, when, off the top of my head, you have:
1. Hit on an underage admin (Niknak iirc)
2. Also wrote lizard smut
3. Commissioned me to write about Robustin getting anally raped by a ghost (which you never paid me on)
4. Impersonated different people over pda tcomms to send creepy messages
5. Impersonated Phoebe several times to act like a stuttering slut
6. Demanded Mekhi to "fuck your cunt" over the station radio
But hey, you being the most abrasive person on the server is why I thought you were cool to begin with. I wouldn't have kept writing about you otherwise.
1. Hit on an underage admin (Niknak iirc)
2. Also wrote lizard smut
3. Commissioned me to write about Robustin getting anally raped by a ghost (which you never paid me on)
4. Impersonated different people over pda tcomms to send creepy messages
5. Impersonated Phoebe several times to act like a stuttering slut
6. Demanded Mekhi to "fuck your cunt" over the station radio
But hey, you being the most abrasive person on the server is why I thought you were cool to begin with. I wouldn't have kept writing about you otherwise.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
SHOTS FUCKING FIRED OH SHIIIIT
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
yeah and if any of this shit genuinely bothers people I stop
also
>hitting on niknakflak
also
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Grab Two bags of holding + Syndi Rig Suit + Stand = Make Demands.
I did this once and some officer felt like playing the hero so I BOH'd escape. I don't know why people 8edit [Don't] take hostage situations seriously, good way to fuck everything up.
I did this once and some officer felt like playing the hero so I BOH'd escape. I don't know why people 8edit [Don't] take hostage situations seriously, good way to fuck everything up.
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I've hit on niknakflak heaps of times
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
A clown this morning played a hostage situation with me.
The captain, who was braindead, disappeared at some point, and the clown, recently imprisoned, demanded to be free in exchange of the captain.
By law1 I complied, only to find out the clown was a man of his word and left the captain in medbay.
That didn't stop his final fate of getting murdered by the HoS, but it was fun.
The captain, who was braindead, disappeared at some point, and the clown, recently imprisoned, demanded to be free in exchange of the captain.
By law1 I complied, only to find out the clown was a man of his word and left the captain in medbay.
That didn't stop his final fate of getting murdered by the HoS, but it was fun.
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Why not cavity implant a bomb into your hostage and/or yourself?
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
How will you have the time to cavity implant without sec killing you/the hostage, and freeing the hostage?1g88a wrote:Why not cavity implant a bomb into your hostage and/or yourself?
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Re: How to have a Hostage Crisis
Do it before sparking the crisis.Helios wrote:How will you have the time to cavity implant without sec killing you/the hostage, and freeing the hostage?1g88a wrote:Why not cavity implant a bomb into your hostage and/or yourself?
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Good luck with that on hipop.asskek wrote:Do it before sparking the crisis.Helios wrote:How will you have the time to cavity implant without sec killing you/the hostage, and freeing the hostage?1g88a wrote:Why not cavity implant a bomb into your hostage and/or yourself?
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Next time I'm an antag with access to toxins, I promise I'll try this. Smuggler's Satchels with bombs all over the station.
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