The Frustration of MRP
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The Frustration of MRP
I held myself back from buying a .357 Revolver and blamming people who got in my way and instead tried to go for something more gimmicky.
Yet the captain and AI went full valid hunt mode, kept blocking me in everyone and went for round removal stuff like instant executions and cremation.
It's really tiresome.
Edit: The complaint being, if antagonists are supposed to be more creative here. The antag stoppers should too. If antags aren't de-swording you, then you shouldn't reward that with an instant execution when they do get taken down.
Yet the captain and AI went full valid hunt mode, kept blocking me in everyone and went for round removal stuff like instant executions and cremation.
It's really tiresome.
Edit: The complaint being, if antagonists are supposed to be more creative here. The antag stoppers should too. If antags aren't de-swording you, then you shouldn't reward that with an instant execution when they do get taken down.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Shadowflame909 wrote:I held myself back from buying a .357 Revolver and blamming people who got in my way and instead tried to go for something more gimmicky.
Yet the captain and AI went full valid hunt mode, kept blocking me in everyone and went for round removal stuff like instant executions and cremation.
It's really tiresome.
Edit: The complaint being, if antagonists are supposed to be more creative here. The antag stoppers should too. If antags aren't de-swording you, then you shouldn't reward that with an instant execution when they do get taken down.
Yeah Ive seen a few sec be a little... heavy handed. Ive seen sec full on check every locker as the run through maintenance and it feels out of place. Ive seen someone roundstart bolt ALL the command rooms etc etc. I think some people still struggle to change
Whatever
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Nah, I was an antagonist (they didn't know) who tresspassed 2 times in a row for an EVA hardsuit (Twice. Dropped it upon first arrest in robotics, so I came back and then got me again) and got arrested initially for taking a devil deal from the HoP, so warden Perma'd me under his 3 strikes ruling.actioninja wrote:did you ahelp it?
Captain wanted to execute me there, but he knew he'd have gotten banned. So he just walked in perma with me and the other perma prisoners.
Then he walks out, I follow in an attempt to escape.
I make it one step out the door, he shouts "EXECUTION TIME" and then stun, cuffs, and drags me into the execution room where he proceeds to unload on me with a sketchin pistol, and then throw me out of an airlock.
It aint easy being MRP cheesy.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
if it makes you feel better, that round as devil HOP was equally infuriating to play.Shadowflame909 wrote:Nah, I was an antagonist (they didn't know) who tresspassed 2 times in a row for an EVA hardsuit (Twice. Dropped it upon first arrest in robotics, so I came back and then got me again) and got arrested initially for taking a devil deal from the HoP, so warden Perma'd me under his 3 strikes ruling.actioninja wrote:did you ahelp it?
Captain wanted to execute me there, but he knew he'd have gotten banned. So he just walked in perma with me and the other perma prisoners.
Then he walks out, I follow in an attempt to escape.
I make it one step out the door, he shouts "EXECUTION TIME" and then stun, cuffs, and drags me into the execution room where he proceeds to unload on me with a sketchin pistol, and then throw me out of an airlock.
It aint easy being MRP cheesy.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Instant executions also known as repeated offender that immediately tries to break out of prison when given a last chance
For some reason you've omitted trying to kill a scientist, I wasn't paying enough attention to what was going on in sec but I expect there's more that you forgot to mention
For some reason you've omitted trying to kill a scientist, I wasn't paying enough attention to what was going on in sec but I expect there's more that you forgot to mention
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
local retard gets caught doing a major crime and gets punished for it then cries about 'muh mrp' LMAO
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I strongly suspected the borgs were one humaned by the Captain because of their increasingly strange behavior throughout the round after the Captain had entered their upload and seemingly changed the laws. I had asked twice if I could blow the borgs to no response (because there was no admin online apparently). They were constantly complimenting the Captain and calling her pretty and essentially threatening people who called the Captain ugly - Pepper Oni.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
People love to bitch and moan and cry "fail RP" when they get killed by an antag that didn't explicitly have them as a kill objective. Adminned a round where a traitor was getting chased non-stop through maint so they laid down some shocked grilles to slow down sec and a couple passerby got shocked and died. Multiple people ahelped about it being murderbone??? What do you want the guy to do, just spread his ass and take all of secs batons? It's not even fail RP, it's absolutely in character for an enemy of the corporation who is ready to murder to endanger the crew to save their own skin. Really fucking annoying.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
That was the robotics sceneMickyan wrote:Instant executions also known as repeated offender that immediately tries to break out of prison when given a last chance
For some reason you've omitted trying to kill a scientist, I wasn't paying enough attention to what was going on in sec but I expect there's more that you forgot to mention
I tresspass into robotics for the second to final, dude shoves me, starts laser scalpelling me.
So I whip out my welder and hit him 5 times
He screams bloody murder, gets the AI's attention, I go down disposals as they start bolting shit and 5 security officers come flooding in.
I end up in disposals, AI bolts again, sec comes. Ai keeps turning off the disposals machine's lever, so I just slow crawl into it.
A sec officer follows me as im hiding under the recycler. He looks, opens the door, then leaves. I follow him thinking im good, then he comes back. We play push baton tag. I lose. I get arrested.
TLDR: It was deadass self defense, the only thing they had on me was tresspassing 3 times in a row and evading the law, but no one cares about that space-law ruleset unless your petty.
Edit: Though, tis MRP. I racked up 3 counts of tresspass, so PERMA is fair. But Cmon on MRP antags aren't trying to kill yee. So why not use the multitude of other methods of detainment
1. Prison-Cuffs
2. Straight-Jackets
3. Pacifism Surgery
4. Chemical Implants (You get lethal injections for this!)
5. Combo of all these for antags especially
6. Borging.
Permanent round removal doesn't have to be an option on MRP unless it's the only option.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
MRP doesn't mean there can't be alot of conflict or killing in a round, it just means people need to be fun about how it plays out.
Now, that also doesn't mean every single thing needs to be a gimmick (cause that would definitely get old), and it's fine to have some stuff just be straight to the point actions, like murder.
However, what does need to be prevented is powergaming and playing to win. When antags just try to rack up their kills and act like a silent combat drone, that's what's not okay.
Same thing when sec just silently cuff-drags prisoners along and executes them without saying a word even though they're restrained. Other stuff like checking every locker in maint, is usually powergameish, unless say the HOS orders security to scour the area, in which case it may be okay, as long as the officers don't just do it maximally efficient (run as fast as you can between every locker and click, then run to the next one). Generally, taking things slow (relatively), is a good idea for having better RP.
Now, that also doesn't mean every single thing needs to be a gimmick (cause that would definitely get old), and it's fine to have some stuff just be straight to the point actions, like murder.
However, what does need to be prevented is powergaming and playing to win. When antags just try to rack up their kills and act like a silent combat drone, that's what's not okay.
Same thing when sec just silently cuff-drags prisoners along and executes them without saying a word even though they're restrained. Other stuff like checking every locker in maint, is usually powergameish, unless say the HOS orders security to scour the area, in which case it may be okay, as long as the officers don't just do it maximally efficient (run as fast as you can between every locker and click, then run to the next one). Generally, taking things slow (relatively), is a good idea for having better RP.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
the ultimate "i ded" thread and subsequent policy discussion thread
just dont get caught LOL
just dont get caught LOL
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I strongly suspected the borgs were one humaned by the Captain because of their increasingly strange behavior throughout the round after the Captain had entered their upload and seemingly changed the laws. I had asked twice if I could blow the borgs to no response (because there was no admin online apparently). They were constantly complimenting the Captain and calling her pretty and essentially threatening people who called the Captain ugly - Pepper Oni.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
They're probably used to the absolute fucked state of regular cuckRP servers.PKPenguin321 wrote:words
If an antagonist kills anyone not on the list for any reason "um that's murderbone sweetie week ban beg me like a dog on forums but I'll deny it anyway"
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
The weak should fear the strong
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
i did not ban them, but rather i told the ahelpers to fuck off and they called me a shitmin in deadchat. at least im not a banbot!XivilaiAnaxes wrote:They're probably used to the absolute fucked state of regular cuckRP servers.PKPenguin321 wrote:words
If an antagonist kills anyone not on the list for any reason "um that's murderbone sweetie week ban beg me like a dog on forums but I'll deny it anyway"
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i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
How dare you not turn MRP into a HRP shithole? Literally fascist.PKPenguin321 wrote:i did not ban them, but rather i told the ahelpers to fuck off and they called me a shitmin in deadchat. at least im not a banbot!XivilaiAnaxes wrote:They're probably used to the absolute fucked state of regular cuckRP servers.PKPenguin321 wrote:words
If an antagonist kills anyone not on the list for any reason "um that's murderbone sweetie week ban beg me like a dog on forums but I'll deny it anyway"
Jokes aside, good on you for not being a HRP retard.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
basically this, if you have a good reason to kill someone besides "if nobody is alive to oppose me than how can I fail?" then let it play chiefPKPenguin321 wrote:People love to bitch and moan and cry "fail RP" when they get killed by an antag that didn't explicitly have them as a kill objective. Adminned a round where a traitor was getting chased non-stop through maint so they laid down some shocked grilles to slow down sec and a couple passerby got shocked and died. Multiple people ahelped about it being murderbone??? What do you want the guy to do, just spread his ass and take all of secs batons? It's not even fail RP, it's absolutely in character for an enemy of the corporation who is ready to murder to endanger the crew to save their own skin. Really fucking annoying.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Lowrp: KILL EM ALL
Highrp: kill the one guy you’re supposed to, maybe more if it’s interesting and fair
Medium should be in between. I think it’d be safer to lean towards the former though, as a station with higher standards is less likely to get bazingaed by assistants so sec can properly deal with them (if regular crew stop treating “don’t act like sec to validhunt” as ACTIVELY HELP THEM EVADE CAPTURE)
Highrp: kill the one guy you’re supposed to, maybe more if it’s interesting and fair
Medium should be in between. I think it’d be safer to lean towards the former though, as a station with higher standards is less likely to get bazingaed by assistants so sec can properly deal with them (if regular crew stop treating “don’t act like sec to validhunt” as ACTIVELY HELP THEM EVADE CAPTURE)
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
HRP will bwoink you for every person you kill that isn't your target. MRP is what you described HRP as.confused rock wrote:Lowrp: KILL EM ALL
Highrp: kill the one guy you’re supposed to, maybe more if it’s interesting and fair
Medium should be in between. I think it’d be safer to lean towards the former though, as a station with higher standards is less likely to get bazingaed by assistants so sec can properly deal with them (if regular crew stop treating “don’t act like sec to validhunt” as ACTIVELY HELP THEM EVADE CAPTURE)
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the few living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, "Come." I looked, and behold, a good deedubya post, and he who sat on it had a toolbox; and insuls were given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.deedubya wrote:HRP will bwoink you for every person you kill that isn't your target. MRP is what you described HRP as.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
pkp yo i think i found one of the ahelpers https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... ead#unread ?
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
a recent one is people who think that "MRP = never ever kill anything or do anything bad ever regardless of role" and will always play full-on friendly antag no matter what antag type they get. i saw a friendly space dragon today. role playing means playing your role, my dudes
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i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Friendly antags are cringe.
You can be friendly to some crewmembers. But you should still make completing your objective interesting. IE showing hostility/maliciousness towards your target.
You can be friendly to some crewmembers. But you should still make completing your objective interesting. IE showing hostility/maliciousness towards your target.
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Re: The Frustration of MRP
Space dragon that tarts a criminal empire/religion and demands sacrifices is based.
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