A Sheet of Metal.
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A Sheet of Metal.
In a strike of immense boredom during a robotics round where, not much was going on in robotics. (We even had our own private autolathe and protolathe.) But no resources from mining to do anything with, I was sitting down and I thought about the actual, dimensions, of the 'sheet of metal'. Well, to figure this out, I ran off of the one definitive value for the size of metal I could find, the fact that 1 sheet into any production interface (Auto/Protolathes, Robotic Fabricator) is worth '2000 cm^3' Or, Two thousand Cubic Centimeters.
From there it was only a matter of figuring out what 3 factors I should use to come up with that number, and seeing as the game defines metal as 'sheets' and the graphic is fairly rectangular, I plausibly set these values to be: 40cm wide, 50cm tall, and 1cm deep. Now, to put things in perspective, assuming your an american who doesn't translate metric well, if you're about.... 5'10", then that's a slab of metal that, if you stood with your feet shoulder length apart, you could set the corners of it on your toes, and lean the top of it against your knee, and it's about half an inch thick.
After thinking about it, I realized that seemed a little small, and not necessarily something you might call a 'sheet', but rather a slap, or a plate. A sheet would be thinner and generally broader. by cutting the depth to one forth, you're able to double the other two dimensions, 1m (100cm) tall, 80cm wide, and 2.5mm (1/4cm), which is something that you could, lean against about your belly, about as wide as the distance between your elbows when outstretched, and about as thick as the lead of a wooden pencil. (or if you took five .5 mechanical pencil leads and set them side by side.) These dimensions strike me as something far more appropriate to a 'sheet and still seems reasonable to the scalings of the game.
That being said, I'm not sure how so little mass can be used to make thick walls that are space proof, and easily twice as wide as your average person in all dimensions. Maybe the 2000 cm^3 is merely how much material the 3d printers can use effectively and the rest is merely waste? I have no idea. Anyway, enough of me bored-mathing. I'll see you all later to see what you all think about this.
From there it was only a matter of figuring out what 3 factors I should use to come up with that number, and seeing as the game defines metal as 'sheets' and the graphic is fairly rectangular, I plausibly set these values to be: 40cm wide, 50cm tall, and 1cm deep. Now, to put things in perspective, assuming your an american who doesn't translate metric well, if you're about.... 5'10", then that's a slab of metal that, if you stood with your feet shoulder length apart, you could set the corners of it on your toes, and lean the top of it against your knee, and it's about half an inch thick.
After thinking about it, I realized that seemed a little small, and not necessarily something you might call a 'sheet', but rather a slap, or a plate. A sheet would be thinner and generally broader. by cutting the depth to one forth, you're able to double the other two dimensions, 1m (100cm) tall, 80cm wide, and 2.5mm (1/4cm), which is something that you could, lean against about your belly, about as wide as the distance between your elbows when outstretched, and about as thick as the lead of a wooden pencil. (or if you took five .5 mechanical pencil leads and set them side by side.) These dimensions strike me as something far more appropriate to a 'sheet and still seems reasonable to the scalings of the game.
That being said, I'm not sure how so little mass can be used to make thick walls that are space proof, and easily twice as wide as your average person in all dimensions. Maybe the 2000 cm^3 is merely how much material the 3d printers can use effectively and the rest is merely waste? I have no idea. Anyway, enough of me bored-mathing. I'll see you all later to see what you all think about this.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
You realize it takes more than 1 sheet to make a wall right?Zsword wrote:In a strike of immense boredom during a robotics round where, not much was going on in robotics. (We even had our own private autolathe and protolathe.) But no resources from mining to do anything with, I was sitting down and I thought about the actual, dimensions, of the 'sheet of metal'. Well, to figure this out, I ran off of the one definitive value for the size of metal I could find, the fact that 1 sheet into any production interface (Auto/Protolathes, Robotic Fabricator) is worth '2000 cm^3' Or, Two thousand Cubic Centimeters.
From there it was only a matter of figuring out what 3 factors I should use to come up with that number, and seeing as the game defines metal as 'sheets' and the graphic is fairly rectangular, I plausibly set these values to be: 40cm wide, 50cm tall, and 1cm deep. Now, to put things in perspective, assuming your an american who doesn't translate metric well, if you're about.... 5'10", then that's a slab of metal that, if you stood with your feet shoulder length apart, you could set the corners of it on your toes, and lean the top of it against your knee, and it's about half an inch thick.
After thinking about it, I realized that seemed a little small, and not necessarily something you might call a 'sheet', but rather a slap, or a plate. A sheet would be thinner and generally broader. by cutting the depth to one forth, you're able to double the other two dimensions, 1m (100cm) tall, 80cm wide, and 2.5mm (1/4cm), which is something that you could, lean against about your belly, about as wide as the distance between your elbows when outstretched, and about as thick as the lead of a wooden pencil. (or if you took five .5 mechanical pencil leads and set them side by side.) These dimensions strike me as something far more appropriate to a 'sheet and still seems reasonable to the scalings of the game.
That being said, I'm not sure how so little mass can be used to make thick walls that are space proof, and easily twice as wide as your average person in all dimensions. Maybe the 2000 cm^3 is merely how much material the 3d printers can use effectively and the rest is merely waste? I have no idea. Anyway, enough of me bored-mathing. I'll see you all later to see what you all think about this.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
Holy sheet, dat topic.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
It takes two sheets. The girders themselves take two as well, but obviously aren't doing the whole keeping it airtight thing.cedarbridge wrote: You realize it takes more than 1 sheet to make a wall right?
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
Reminder: you can stack 50 of these at a time and they still fit together and can be carried in one hand. Your backpack can handle 7 such stacks. Thus it can fit 350 sheets of metal of that size. Plus 100 more in your hands.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
or a sheet of glass of similar thickness, and it isn't totally fragile.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
Fragile? I can throw them across the room and a sheet of glass doesn't even flinch.Zsword wrote:or a sheet of glass of similar thickness, and it isn't totally fragile.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
This isn't autism, if it were a disorder, it would be ADD.Kraso wrote:autism: the thread: part 5
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
Do metal and glass still provide different amounts of materials to protolathes compared to uranium, silver, gold, plasma, and diamond or was that finally fixed? Because that's even more information to consider.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
There is something about these threads that I sincerely enjoy. Seeing people put this much thought into things like this.
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Damn you beat me.Miauw wrote:[space magic intensifies]
But yeah, none of the math makes any sense, I tried to do some math on how big a Ripley would be and the other mechs.
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Re: A Sheet of Metal.
Why are metal sheets called "metal"? They're made of pure iron ore in the game. Why not Iron Sheets?
Iron's density is 7870 kg/m^3, so one sheet of iron, or 2000 cm^3 weights:
0.002 m^3 * 7870 kg/m^3 = 15,74 kg or 34.70 lbs !
50 sheets weight:
787 kg or 1735 lbs !!
Full backpack of metal sheets + both hands used (450 sheets) weight:
7083 kg or 15615 lbs !!!
Even if the same size sheets were made of aluminium, the lightest metal used for construction, 50 sheets of it would still weight 270 kg or 595 lbs.
Iron's density is 7870 kg/m^3, so one sheet of iron, or 2000 cm^3 weights:
0.002 m^3 * 7870 kg/m^3 = 15,74 kg or 34.70 lbs !
50 sheets weight:
787 kg or 1735 lbs !!
Full backpack of metal sheets + both hands used (450 sheets) weight:
7083 kg or 15615 lbs !!!
Even if the same size sheets were made of aluminium, the lightest metal used for construction, 50 sheets of it would still weight 270 kg or 595 lbs.
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