The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

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Unban terbs?

Yes, with permanent probation.
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5%
Yes, with temp probation.
16
22%
Yes, with no probation.
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35%
No, leave him banned.
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38%
 
Total votes : 74

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The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Bluespace » Sat May 23, 2015 6:45 pm #90091

Vote above. This is for player opinion and will probably mean nothing except to sate my curiosity.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Cheimon » Sat May 23, 2015 6:53 pm #90093

Who are they and why should I care?

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Bluespace » Sat May 23, 2015 6:53 pm #90094

A blacklisted player. If you don't know them, don't worry, most do.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Blonkz » Sat May 23, 2015 6:57 pm #90095

Bring back Terbs.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby iamgoofball » Sat May 23, 2015 7:00 pm #90096

FREE KINGSTONTERBS

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Postby Scones » Sat May 23, 2015 7:14 pm #90098

FREE MY NIGGA
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Wyzack » Sat May 23, 2015 7:51 pm #90099

>All these votes for back with no probation

I have been saying we should bring back terbs for years, and it is finally habbening
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Summoner » Sat May 23, 2015 7:56 pm #90100

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby TheNightingale » Sat May 23, 2015 10:19 pm #90119

Could we get some context? Why they were originally banned, what they've done to break their probation since, how long ago this was, and so on.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Sat May 23, 2015 10:43 pm #90122

He did a lot to get banned Here and there stuff, final straw as far as recollection goes, He made a swastika, which Kor overturned without permission from the banner, getting him deadminned in the clusterfuck flamewar the ensuing forum drama. He later appealed and got basil, from there he worked his way back on to the main server.
HG then re perma'd him for breaking the glass in the bridge exposing shocked grills, not that bad in and of itself, but with the probation I guess.. maybe?

He also pitched a monthlong or so fit on the forums filling it with crack, heroine, and weed talk.

As far as how long, terbs has been a talking point for a very very long time, I couldn't even remember how long, 2013? something like that, it's been a long fucking time suffice to say.


Oh and he posted a picture of his balls with the words 'fuck you' drawn on them. I remember that vividly enough. shit was cray cray, but I laughed my ass off. don't remember over which incident.
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Postby Vekter » Sat May 23, 2015 10:52 pm #90124

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Sat May 23, 2015 10:57 pm #90125

http://www.ss13.eu/oldtgforum/for%20no% ... Terbs.html
Here is the bit with the swastika fri march 23 2012

http://wildhogs.kamletos.si/phpbb/viewt ... ?f=3&t=678
Here is his appeal jun 21 2013

http://wildhogs.kamletos.si/phpbb/viewt ... =7&p=52743
Then in october 2013 his appeal on the glass

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=25&p=159#p159
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64&p=416#p416
then here on the new forums his re-appeal in april 2014 six months later

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1701&hilit=appeal
And here is his newest appeal. oct 2014


He's appealed this every six months since it happened.
that's what I dug up, feel free to pick through it.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Amelius » Sat May 23, 2015 11:07 pm #90129

> Banning someone for a swastika.

I thought we didn't ban for that sort of thing here? Pretty stupid reason for a ban, tbh. I mean, I haven't seen any enforcement of political correctness on the server aside from that.

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Postby Ricotez » Sat May 23, 2015 11:42 pm #90134

why do you endlessly beat the dead horse, by this point it must have been resurrected in multiple different frankenstein scenarios
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Steelpoint » Sun May 24, 2015 4:12 am #90169

I don't understand why anyone would want to unban someone that is a very divisive and bad player.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Sun May 24, 2015 4:27 am #90173

it's because most this shit is pedestrian, and at what point do you drop it and let someone who wants to try to come back, back?
It's not a black and white issue, he was really entertaining and fun to play with, Else the vote wouldn't be where it is.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby John_Oxford » Sun May 24, 2015 4:47 am #90174

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On a serious note, don't know who this is, but unban him, so if he fucks up again, we can all collectively agree to say "Fuck man.. This guys a asshole! We should ban him!"
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Doritos » Sun May 24, 2015 5:16 am #90177

#FREE MY NIGGA STRATOS
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby PKPenguin321 » Sun May 24, 2015 6:44 am #90188

this is my only real impression of terbs besides his "week of fun" thing which was also great

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=631
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if he could make me laugh my ass off with stuff like more often if he's unbanned, then i don't see a very negative influence and think he at the least deserves a chance at being unbanned with temporary probation
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Sun May 24, 2015 7:08 am #90194

Terbs should have a persistant poll (with revoting allowed) determine his banness at all times, so he is utterly at the malevolent will of the community
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Tunder » Sun May 24, 2015 8:05 am #90202

There are much, much worse new players doing worse shit scot-free as the administration quality begins to decline with all the server tumult and laws are not properly enforced. Terbs had his bad moments, but so do we all. Plus the nut thing took cojones. Terbs is a long-time and valuable member of this community with a lot of seasoning, and one of the most robust players we still have amidst the sever brain drain and the floods of newbs we've been getting. He has shown his loyalty to the community by sticking around for literally years after his ban, which was made on pretty weaksauce griff to begin with. To be frank, we need him.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Loonikus » Sun May 24, 2015 8:49 am #90207

I've played with him way back when he was still kicking and to be honest he really wasn't exceptionally bad. Ya, he toed the line every so often but it was really nothing too major and he always had some kind of reasoning to back up his actions.

Sure, bring him back. As long as he doesn't shit up OOC or the forums (Fuck it, I don't care if he shits up the forums because I can just not read his threads) with too much of his ABLOO HOO IM LIVIN DA TRASH LIFE stories than he's fine in my book.

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Postby NikNakFlak » Sun May 24, 2015 9:58 am #90210

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Durandan » Sun May 24, 2015 10:15 am #90216

NikNakFlak wrote:http://pastebin.com/GJr91Q7V

Oh baby, good times. I'm glad all that's behind us and we're a much more cohesive, friendly, and non-judgmental community now :honkman:

On a more serious note I don't really recall ever having a problem with Terbs. I'd support an unban but would prefer it with short probation for the sake of principle.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Sometinyprick » Sun May 24, 2015 10:24 am #90217

if he writes my name on his ass and pms it to me i will unban him
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Miauw » Sun May 24, 2015 10:37 am #90218

never 4get april fools 2015
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Steelpoint » Sun May 24, 2015 10:50 am #90220

NikNakFlak wrote:http://pastebin.com/GJr91Q7V


I find it amusing that most of the mentioned people are not here anymore.

On topic. Years ago I was the main administrator for a popular forum and we had this one person who kept getting into trouble, he gets into fights and argues over petty things. Now I was new to administrating so I kept giving him chances and final warnings but nothing ever changed, so after a massive controversy I permanently banned him (and banned his alt accounts). That went well, then about half a year to a year later I start getting messages to unban him from other forum members. So eventually I relented and unbanned him.

He went well at first but not long after I had to ban him again because he went back into the same patterns.

Long story short, while some people can be convinced and forced to improve their behaviour, there are just some people that you can't change and should just be left out.

It would be nice if Terbs can integrate back in, but from what everyone else has said I'm not convinced he will remain clean.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Erbbu » Sun May 24, 2015 12:16 pm #90232

Free Terbs.

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Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Sun May 24, 2015 12:31 pm #90234

NikNakFlak wrote:http://pastebin.com/GJr91Q7V

I like how HG, absentee headmin extraordiare, is on his list of "people who would make great headmins but never will be"
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Postby Miauw » Sun May 24, 2015 1:11 pm #90236

>implying HG wasnt a good headmin last term
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Fr05tByt3 » Sun May 24, 2015 1:16 pm #90238

Terb
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If he's as robust as everyone says I'd like to play a few rounds with him.
Plus he seems funny.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby MrStonedOne » Mon May 25, 2015 12:14 am #90350

He was banned repeatively for repeatively breaking all the rules.

The actual incidences that earned him a permaban don't matter, they were built on mutiple bans and shitty behavior. on top of multiple counts of ban evading and when he could play, job ban evading.

But than again, those don't matter either.

You can get banned for one thing, and be kept banned for something else you did after getting banned, like, oh I don't know.... fucking egging somebody on to commit suicide. (Multiple times at that)
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Mon May 25, 2015 12:30 am #90360

MrStonedOne wrote: fucking egging somebody on to commit suicide. (Multiple times at that)

Basicly as I said in the other thread
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Falamazeer wrote:Make it a permanent condition, much like the implied social contract we all abide by in this community He gets to come back so long as he never does that shit again
Pretty sure we're all under that constraint, If I were to do it, I'd be perma'd? right? same with meta friends, rape, and serial shitlerness.


So... Yeah. Not sure what that has to do with anything even if it were true, you gonna double perma him because he did it?
If you're so concerned about it, bring him back so you can punish him by taking it away if he does it again, then he won't, amiright?

There is a lot going on in the thread now, So I'm quoting myself, Saegrim, What's the difference here? if he's a fuck nugget about suiciders, that's one of those blatant shitler blanket perma ban situations
an argument about line toeing is one thing, but this literately has nothing to do with anything, He has no obligation to follow the rules of a game and community he's all but abolished from, It's unethical sure, immoral even, but fuck, Are you saying by allowing him back that rule will change in any way?

It's a rule, and he'll abide by it like every other fucker playing spessman here, Or he'll get the fuck out.



He was gone when he did it right? sure you could argue that it says something about him, but it really shouldn't outright gank his chances, this is a relatively new hotbutton issue that we as a community abide by not being fuckers about it. His return would do fuck all for overturning this policy, or in any way changing it. Right?
He acts like that, you permaban him, boom, done, the precedent is set, you do not tell unstable people to kill themselves because they very well might, it's a rule we as bunch of gamers abide by, and he will too, or he'll be out on his ass the same as me.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:28 am #90403

Thanks for the support. Fighting the good fight. Free Terbs 2015.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Mon May 25, 2015 2:37 am #90407

DEMOCRACY BE DAMNED!
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Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:39 am #90409

Who fucking locked that I want names.
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Postby Saegrimr » Mon May 25, 2015 2:39 am #90410

The person you gave host to.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:41 am #90411

Goddammit.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Wyzack » Mon May 25, 2015 2:42 am #90412

I thought the whole point of crowd funding he server was so that no one man would have that kind of executive power?
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Postby Steelpoint » Mon May 25, 2015 2:42 am #90413

I go away for eight hours and suddenly there's another 100 posts in the unban thread.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby mosquitoman » Mon May 25, 2015 2:42 am #90414

Bluespace wrote:This is for player opinion and will probably mean nothing except to sate my curiosity.

what is this authoritarianism? admins are for the players, not the other way around

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Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:43 am #90415

44 : 27 in favor of being unbanned

Thread locked.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Falamazeer » Mon May 25, 2015 2:45 am #90417

Singulo is now useless, anything you say can and will be used against you.
Nevermind 62% of the playerbase, we gotta be sure everyone can hug things out in a safe way on an image board dedicated to 2dspessman without anyone triggering anyone.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:46 am #90419

I can't believe I'd be in a thread simultaneously defending Icepacks, Terbs, and standing up for the right for people to post on Singulo without it being held against them.

Times change holy shit.

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Someone using his name on Singulo repeated some common knowledge edge-lord suicide tips. We've no evidence that it was actually him posting, nor any confirmation that the person he was talking to wasn't just "taking the piss". I'm inclined to discount anything anyone posts on Singulo as horseshit because it's Singulo. You seem to be repeatedly failing to grasp the concept that Singulo is Singulo. Getting shittalked for making posts on Singulo is par for the course. It's bat country. Complaining thats someone said something, however gross it was, on Singulo, is the like laying down in the middle of the road and complaining when someone runs you over. It's posting your address on /b/ and then getting upset when a bunch of pizzas and junk mail start arriving at your home. Singulo isn't policed by /tg/ nor is there any guarantee people will treat you nicely there. Like I said above, it's all up to oranges what is allowed or is not.

This glibly misunderstands the point. Nobody is coming to singulo because they think they're gonna get good counseling for their personal trauma. They were already on singulo. And for Christ's sake, An0n3, are you really trying to make the argument that using the community for "social care" is "abuse" in the fucking terbs unban thread? That's literally all he uses the community for.


Are you suggesting that /tg/station is a good place to receive quality mental and emotional care? This entire time I thought this place was setup to host a videogame and get people to play it. I've already said in a previous post how I feel about Terbs' own mental issues.

Yes, this thought process you're describing is exactly the rational and logical process that most people contemplating suicide go through. It makes perfect sense to expect people who are literally thinking about killing themselves to respect the social norms of not revealing that shit in public forums.


I would rather drive them out of here and into the arms of actually licensed professionals, or at the very least their real life friends and family. You can't honestly believe that any of what goes on here is good for anyone's mental well-being. Of everyone who has ever expressed problems I think we've cured exactly zero of them and even had a near miss with one (who thankfully was able to seek real life professional care as a result of it, thank fucking God).

He's not venting in a controlled environment, he's encouraging suicides in a deliberately uncontrolled environment. I didn't have to sort or search through shit because all of this happened a few days ago.


He's posting garbage in the garbage dump. The place you should either walk into with the expectation that you're going to see some shit, and a place anyone is easily able to heed the words of the great Tyler the Creator:

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bandit wrote:I guarantee you if he's unbanned he'll start back up on the actual forums during his next bender.


You can't know that or guarantee it though. That's an assumption.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Wyzack » Mon May 25, 2015 2:47 am #90420

I was gonna post this in the other thread but it got locked. I am not in favour of unbanning Terbs because he is my friend, he probably does not even know who I am. I want him unbanned because he is fun to play with, plain and simple. That is why we play this game right? For fun?
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Timbrewolf » Mon May 25, 2015 2:50 am #90421

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby oranges » Mon May 25, 2015 2:53 am #90422

I would prefer MSO to not interfere with matters of policy other than to have their say as an admin

I've registered my displeasure but thats about all I can do

I'd appreciate if people don't bring up singulo in ban requests, you have no way of proving that someone is who they say they are unless they're tripping, which I don't believe I've ever seen terbs do.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Wyzack » Mon May 25, 2015 2:55 am #90424

Yeah i thought we specifically had a discussion on how MSO was not going to do any of this type of shit after SoS left.
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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby oranges » Mon May 25, 2015 2:57 am #90425

It was never resolved in any concrete way other than some vague promises.

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Re: The "UnbanTerbs" poll.

Postby Wyzack » Mon May 25, 2015 3:00 am #90426

Well this opens up a whole other can of worms and i hope MSO will post to address them
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