Little things you learned that are game changing

Actionb · Post by **Actionb** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:13 pm #114308

Bottom post of the previous page:

Magboots work while in a mech.
No more zero gravity floating around for your Durand!

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:25 pm #114309

That's gotta be some real powerful magnets in there.

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:46 pm #114340

DemonFiren wrote:That's gotta be some real powerful magnets in there.

Oh, they uhh, link up with special, uhh, magnet conductors...in the boots of the mech?

I think I can 'reasonable suspension of disbelief' mechs having a modular system for hooking up to technologies on you. Frankly mechs probably ought to have magboot advantages anyway, since mechs like the ripley are literally designed for eva work.

DrPillzRedux · Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:24 pm

If you bolt a door in the dorms and tell sec that people are erping they'll all run there, leaving the armory undefended.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:31 pm #114352

I don't know how wellknow this is but...

You can place and take items from any container inside a container (Box inside a Bag) if you drag that container onto your in game character. Meaning you can take stuff out of a box or similar without having to take it out of the bag.

Remie Richards · Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:55 pm

Steelpoint wrote:I don't know how wellknow this is but...

You can place and take items from any container inside a container (Box inside a Bag) if you drag that container onto your in game character. Meaning you can take stuff out of a box or similar without having to take it out of the bag.

Probably not that well known since the change is like, 2-3 weeks old, if that.

ShadowDimentio · Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:56 pm

You used to be able to look inside containers like that, but not take anything out. You can now take things out. And praise whoever changed that because it's wonderful.

Yoshmaster · Post by **Yoshmaster** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:18 pm #114380

newfren wrote:
Killbasa wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:You can put mutagen in fertilizer bottles and use them as upgraded droppers in botany.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS?

FUCKING REVOLUTIONIZED BOTANY FOR ME.
If you empty one of the nutrient bottles and fill it with mutagen and set it to one unit, you can get 100 potency really quick.
2 units is better if you're getting enough mutagen at roundstart (a.k.a. at least 7 large beakers full).

I try and teach this trick to everyone who walks up to me at chemistry and asks me for a dropper but most of them just want a dropper anyway even though it's like twice as slow.

You can actually pour 2 units at a time from beakers, you just have to water the mutagen down a bit. If there are multiple chemicals in a container, they all pour at the percent they are of the total liquid multiplied by the total amount transferred.
Meaning if you wanna pour 2 units of mutagen, that's a 2/5 ratio. So for every 2 units of mutagen, add 3 units of water! That gets you 40 units mutagen, 60 water. Now you can pour at 5 units to get the effect of 2 units of mutagen! Works 20 times before you need a refill.

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:24 pm #114400

Steelpoint wrote:I don't know how wellknow this is but...

You can place and take items from any container inside a container (Box inside a Bag) if you drag that container onto your in game character. Meaning you can take stuff out of a box or similar without having to take it out of the bag.

My favourites are blue toolbox > utility belt, and bag > box, to de-clutter my backpack.

Actionb · Post by **Actionb** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:27 pm #114415

DemonFiren wrote:That's gotta be some real powerful magnets in there.

Magnets. Nobody fucking knows how they work.
But do enjoy it while it lasts: https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/issues/11339

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:37 am #114470

Yoshmaster wrote:
newfren wrote:
Killbasa wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:You can put mutagen in fertilizer bottles and use them as upgraded droppers in botany.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS?

FUCKING REVOLUTIONIZED BOTANY FOR ME.
If you empty one of the nutrient bottles and fill it with mutagen and set it to one unit, you can get 100 potency really quick.
2 units is better if you're getting enough mutagen at roundstart (a.k.a. at least 7 large beakers full).

I try and teach this trick to everyone who walks up to me at chemistry and asks me for a dropper but most of them just want a dropper anyway even though it's like twice as slow.
You can actually pour 2 units at a time from beakers, you just have to water the mutagen down a bit. If there are multiple chemicals in a container, they all pour at the percent they are of the total liquid multiplied by the total amount transferred.
Meaning if you wanna pour 2 units of mutagen, that's a 2/5 ratio. So for every 2 units of mutagen, add 3 units of water! That gets you 40 units mutagen, 60 water. Now you can pour at 5 units to get the effect of 2 units of mutagen! Works 20 times before you need a refill.

Or you can just use fertilizer bottles and it works 25 times before you need a refill? They hold 50 units.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:37 pm #114601

invisty wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:I don't know how wellknow this is but...

You can place and take items from any container inside a container (Box inside a Bag) if you drag that container onto your in game character. Meaning you can take stuff out of a box or similar without having to take it out of the bag.
My favourites are blue toolbox > utility belt, and bag > box, to de-clutter my backpack.

Oh god yeah it's so helpful, if you need the belt slot and have a toolbelt you can shove that shit in your bag, and since the backpack buffs for small items storage is easier than ever. Best change 2015

Tokiko2 · Post by **Tokiko2** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:18 am #114722

When you steal someone else's ID, you can just slide the card into your PDA and use it. It won't display that the ID is actually from someone else and if you update your PDA it even shows that persons job as your own in the PDA list.

Post by **lumipharon** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:36 am #114725

Another useful tidbit of the garbage bag.

It stacks all of the same item, with the last you put in on top, even if their contents are different.

For example, 2 mags of ammo, on empty, one full, if you put the empty one in 2nd, it will show it as a stack of 2 empty mags.

Or... 30 bottles of chems, all of them deadly traitor poisons, except for the last you put in, which could be something innocent like ephedrine or something.
Unless thy actually remove them, they can't see what they are.

Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:56 am

the only problem with the garbage bag is that inventory management with it is abysmal

anyways, pro tip: always aim for the mouth when you're not doing anything that requires more specific targeting. it's always hilarious to run up to someone with a fire extinguisher, hit them in the mouth, get that easy one hit KO, then proceed to murder/strip/whatever
doesn't always work but it's nice to have the odds on your side in brute-force-on-brute-force combat

Post by **Fatal** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:41 pm #114795

Tokiko2 wrote:When you steal someone else's ID, you can just slide the card into your PDA and use it. It won't display that the ID is actually from someone else and if you update your PDA it even shows that persons job as your own in the PDA list.

Just an FYI, Sec Huds will not be fooled by this, and will show the icon of whatever ID is in the PDA

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:07 pm #114824

player spiders make more player spiders.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:09 pm #114825

player spiders are OP as fuck that's been known forever.

Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:27 pm

pro tip: the locker room and some maint clothes lockers have snazzy as fuck brown shoes in them
if you wear them, not only are you automatically cooler than everybody else, but you also help break the brown shoe meta which means that next time you're traitor and buy noslips they'll be none the wiser

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:29 pm #115311

PKPenguin321 wrote:pro tip: the locker room and some maint clothes lockers have snazzy as fuck brown shoes in them
if you wear them, not only are you automatically cooler than everybody else, but you also help break the brown shoe meta which means that next time you're traitor and buy noslips they'll be none the wiser

rolled down engineering jumpsuit + brown shoes master race reporting
silver medal goes to atmos tech suit + brown shoes

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:11 am #115577

Wallets aren't just for IDs! They can hold many tiny things: bruise packs/ointment, seeds, droppers, stamps, screwdrivers, and even the disk!

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:41 pm #115607

bandit wrote:Wallets aren't just for IDs! They can hold many tiny things: bruise packs/ointment, seeds, droppers, stamps, screwdrivers, and even the disk!

they can even hold captains

Spoiler:

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:22 pm #115869

Just copying this one from another thread...

newfren wrote:
Actionb wrote:FIY, pulling floortiles (or anything stackable really) over another floortile will stack those together.
Rip out floortiles, pull one, run over the other floortiles, done.
This is the best thing I've ever learnt about this game holy shit.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:35 pm #115889

Crowbarring floor tiles removes any decals on top of that floor tile. If you want to clean up gang tags, just crowbar and replace the tile they're on

Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:42 pm

Xhuis wrote:Crowbarring floor tiles removes any decals on top of that floor tile. If you want to clean up gang tags, just crowbar and replace the tile they're on

and if they're on walls, you can weld down the wall
what can't tools do

invisty · Post by **invisty** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:51 pm #115893

Plasma cutters / jackhammers > gangs?

Post by **lumipharon** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:24 am #115901

You can spray your own gang tag over the top of enmy tags, rather then removing theirs then putting your own down.

Once in a gang round we were struggling with station control (about 20%). I announced you could do this over gang chat, and the next time points ticked over, our station control had jumped to like, 70% of the station.

Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:47 am

lumipharon wrote:You can spray your own gang tag over the top of enmy tags, rather then removing theirs then putting your own down.

Once in a gang round we were struggling with station control (about 20%). I announced you could do this over gang chat, and the next time points ticked over, our station control had jumped to like, 70% of the station.

people didnt know this???

Post by **lumipharon** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:40 am #115933

People don't read the instructions for how to bleb, do you really think they read it for any other game mode?

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:24 am #115967

lumipharon wrote:You can spray your own gang tag over the top of enmy tags, rather then removing theirs then putting your own down.

Once in a gang round we were struggling with station control (about 20%). I announced you could do this over gang chat, and the next time points ticked over, our station control had jumped to like, 70% of the station.

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

spainy · Post by **spainy** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:36 pm #115976

lumipharon wrote:You can spray your own gang tag over the top of enmy tags, rather then removing theirs then putting your own down.

Once in a gang round we were struggling with station control (about 20%). I announced you could do this over gang chat, and the next time points ticked over, our station control had jumped to like, 70% of the station.

Wait isn't this the normal way to do it? I don't even know how to erase tags without spraying over them.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:06 pm #115980

How the fuck did you not know that?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:28 pm #115984

All these white bitches, never been near da ghetto where we nigs live, die, and fite.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:58 pm #116178

As a Changeling, don't re-adapt when you're ready to regenerate. You will break it and you can't revive again

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:06 pm #116490

That sounds like a bug, not a game-changing feature. Shove it in the issue tracker.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:20 am #118492

Places to find insulated gloves on Sybil, for all the greytiders:

Electrical toolboxes (5% chance)
Tool closets (5% chance)
One set guaranteed in Technical Storage
Two sets guaranteed in the Engine Room
One set guaranteed in YouTools (with coin)
One set guaranteed on the Abandoned Teleporter
Combat gloves guaranteed in Syndicate toolboxes
One set guaranteed in the Chief Engineer's locker
Possible pairs in Cargo Bay - cargo typically leaves them around
Several pairs guaranteed in the electrical locker in the Engine Room
Four pairs guaranteed in Robco Tool Creators (requires engineering access or hacking)

Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:27 am

Xhuis wrote:Places to find insulated gloves on Sybil, for all the greytiders:

Electrical toolboxes (5% chance)

Tool closets (5% chance)

One set guaranteed in Engineering Storage

Two sets guaranteed in the Engine room

One set guaranteed in YouTool (with coin)

you forgot the ones on the abandoned teleporter, the combat gloves in the syndieboxes on the abandoned satellite and mining outpost, and the one in tech storage on the rack under the yellow toolboxes

Also: Throwing things pushes people now. Use this to keep people away while reloading by throwing your old mag at them instead of dropping it, or push people into wet tiles by throwing your shoes.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:59 am #118508

PKPenguin321 wrote:snip

List updated.

Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:07 am

thinking back, you also didn't mention the numerous pairs in the electrical maintenance locker in engineering or the pair in the CE's locker

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:09 am #118517

There's another YouTool in engineering

also cargo often orders them

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:36 pm #118563

The Syndicate surgery duffleblag, from the uplink for 4 telecrystals, has a lot of good shit. It has a complete surgery toolset, functions as a dufflebag with no slowdown, and has a Syndicate MMI, which gives the borg you put it in a Syndicate lawset and no AI link. It also has a straight jacket and a muzzle.

Post by **lumipharon** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:38 pm #118611

That would be really awesome on metastation, with the ghetto exofab.

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:27 am #118635

I've used the surgery bag a bunch, and getting an exofab on box honestly isn't that difficult - break into tech storage at roundstart and 99% of the time noone gives a shit, steal the exofab and RD console board, break into EVA for metal and glass, decon one of the maint freezer/heaters, decon the bathroom borg charger for the manip.

I usually fall apart when it comes time to actually abduct people, but that's because I'm an unrobust scrub.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:16 am #118826

PKPenguin321 wrote:thinking back, you also didn't mention the numerous pairs in the electrical maintenance locker in engineering or the pair in the CE's locker

The ones in elec maint are budgets. Though there is an electrical toolbox so they might spawn there.

Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:27 am

Zilenan91 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:thinking back, you also didn't mention the numerous pairs in the electrical maintenance locker in engineering or the pair in the CE's locker

The ones in elec maint are budgets. Though there is an electrical toolbox so they might spawn there.

no no i mean the locker in engineering to the left of the youtool, it's got like three pairs in it

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:08 pm #119099

If you take the board out of vending machines then rebuild them instead of having the same stock level of everything they sorta... average it out. Which means when the vendors in medbay run out of patches you can screwdriver > crowbar > rebuild for a couple more.

Most useful for when I'm playing bar, where I burn through all the glasses in the drink vendor instantly - this way you can get another ~22, then another ~15, then another ~5 before it starts giving you 1 every time you decon and rebuild it.

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:30 pm #119107

You can emag light replacers! Lights replaced by them will have a (0,0,2) explosion upon activation! They WILL explode immediately if you attempt to replace an active light, so turn them off first!

Not-Dorsidarf · Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:26 pm

newfren wrote:If you take the board out of vending machines then rebuild them instead of having the same stock level of everything they sorta... average it out. Which means when the vendors in medbay run out of patches you can screwdriver > crowbar > rebuild for a couple more.

Most useful for when I'm playing bar, where I burn through all the glasses in the drink vendor instantly - this way you can get another ~22, then another ~15, then another ~5 before it starts giving you 1 every time you decon and rebuild it.

It's not the rebuilding, specifically, it's the stocker units. They have a pool of charges to stock with, which are averaged out across all the entries (Using some arcane formula) each time they are taken out and put back in.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:31 pm #119651

>averaging
>arcane

Not-Dorsidarf · Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:40 pm

Miauw wrote:>averaging
>arcane

I say arcane because it doesn't quite average the damn things out. If you have 3 entries of 20, take 10 from one entry and 5 from the other, you'll end up with something like an 18,14,13 spread.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:43 am #120877

Meatspikes are stupidly robust now, if you can stun somebody for long enough to put them on or cuff them at least. Once they're on, they're restrained for two minutes (three if they're cuffed) and take tons of damage if they try to escape. Best of all, they're pretty easy to make.