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We've been at this all of a few days and hell has already flooded overTest 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
*hours
Of all the tests this one is the most retarded by far. AI removal had a decent support base, and even removing silicon policy wasn't this unpopular.
Of all the tests this one is the most retarded by far. AI removal had a decent support base, and even removing silicon policy wasn't this unpopular.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Playing AI with these changes especially without a nearby intercom (looking at you metastation) is frustration incarnate because you can't scream out OBVIOUS DANGER, IM SHUTTING THAT DOOR DOWN, DONT YOU DARE!! over comms anymore.
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Stupid change, if you can't kill someone without him screaming out as a traitor you are doing it wrong.
You can even kill people easily with the stetchkin without them screaming out.
You can even kill people easily with the stetchkin without them screaming out.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
How about we test Zil's idea instead and reduce total player health?
(Also shilling my straw poll once more: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
(Also shilling my straw poll once more: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
This will be the next test.Luke Cox wrote:How about we test Zil's idea instead and reduce total player health?
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Since ~70% of people polled are against this test can we just end it now and do this instead?Hornygranny wrote:This will be the next test.Luke Cox wrote:How about we test Zil's idea instead and reduce total player health?
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Who needs approval the headmin wills it and can't be removed for 4 more months :^)
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I thought Kor was supposed to be able to veto bullshit like this
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I've really not been enjoying this change, but I do think it was worthwhile to actually test.
Please bring common back, feels desolate and does not encourage interaction outside of departments at all.
Game has become more boring as a whole.
Please bring common back, feels desolate and does not encourage interaction outside of departments at all.
Game has become more boring as a whole.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Why would I veto a test? I'd rather test bad ideas briefly (if for no other reason than to prove they are bad) than be afraid of change and be stuck in the same rut forever.
Nor do I actually have "veto" power, it's a 3 way vote.
Nor do I actually have "veto" power, it's a 3 way vote.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
If these tests were only for a day or two, I'd be all for them. My issue is that HG shoves them down our throats for well beyond the original week in an effort to force us to accept them even though they're obvious failures. These tests are NEVER brief.
(Poll on the test: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
(Poll on the test: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Jumping on the "this is fucking retarded" bandwagon.
How the fuck did HG get headmin again anyway, this is how/why stupid shit happens.
ME ADMIN ME MAKE CHANGE YOU LIKE
How the fuck did HG get headmin again anyway, this is how/why stupid shit happens.
ME ADMIN ME MAKE CHANGE YOU LIKE
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I think I'll log on when I get home from work in a little bit and give some actual testing instead of just parroting "IT'S BAD." Even with as much as I want to.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
i think we should make changes with our aim having two priorities.
1: make the game more fun for the maximum amount of people. this is the primary goal.
2: make things more balanced. this is the secondary goal, and should not be prioritized over the first.
this change sacrifices the first goal for the second one. as such, i am against it.
1: make the game more fun for the maximum amount of people. this is the primary goal.
2: make things more balanced. this is the secondary goal, and should not be prioritized over the first.
this change sacrifices the first goal for the second one. as such, i am against it.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I've always felt that the whole "fun vs. balance" thing is a false dichotomy. This is absolute cancer for both.
(Poll: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
(Poll: https://strawpoll.me/7156553/)
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Damnit if you'd stop shilling your poll (for the fourth time?) and actually try it out for a few days to form an evidence-based opinion you might have some real feedback to post instead of just unhelpful assertions.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
>Explaining in detail why it's a terrible ideaCheimon wrote:Damnit if you'd stop shilling your poll (for the fourth time?) and actually try it out for a few days to form an evidence-based opinion you might have some real feedback to post instead of just unhelpful assertions.
>"unhelpful assertions"
Okay then
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
But that wasn't the question asked in the poll.Luke Cox wrote:Since ~70% of people polled are against this test can we just end it now and do this instead?Hornygranny wrote:This will be the next test.Luke Cox wrote:How about we test Zil's idea instead and reduce total player health?
You even said yourself those who want to test first shouldn't vote at all.
Please stop abusing polls to use as your own personal mouthpiece. It's not going to work.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Have you even played on the server since the test was implemented. It has been universally reviled, the station feels dead, everybody hates it. Are you willfully ignoring the playerbase's sentiments?
Edit: And unless 17+ people are waiting to vote, you point is invalid. Of 20 or so votes, only three people agree with HG's implementation. The test is absolute AIDS. Admit it.
Edit: And unless 17+ people are waiting to vote, you point is invalid. Of 20 or so votes, only three people agree with HG's implementation. The test is absolute AIDS. Admit it.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
That doesn't justify you trying to lie through polls
I don't care one way or another about the issue at hand. I just find your behavior here utterly foolish.
I don't care one way or another about the issue at hand. I just find your behavior here utterly foolish.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
>OOC is furiousIkarrus wrote:That doesn't justify you trying to lie through polls
>Forum thread is furious
>Poll results overwhelmingly against test
>"trying to lie through polls"
Okay then
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Goofball, you're plugging your ears, ignoring all of my points and everybody's feedback, and posting screamers. Please, stop lying through your teeth and actually contribute something meaningful to the discussion. Hibbles is right, an in-game vote would be ideal. That way Ikarrus and Goofball can't blatantly lie about how people are reacting to this
On a related note, I've played for a while with no common channel, and I cannot tell the difference between highpop and lowpop. This is a horrible thing.
On a related note, I've played for a while with no common channel, and I cannot tell the difference between highpop and lowpop. This is a horrible thing.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
This is why nobody likes you Goofball.
Kor says this test is only for a day or so. Is that true?
Kor says this test is only for a day or so. Is that true?
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
when comms go down, there is literally no way to communicate with people remotely.
though I have seen admin intervention, like making Tcomms all R-walls
though I have seen admin intervention, like making Tcomms all R-walls
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Does anybody else find this a little bit ironic in the thread about not being able to scream shit over comms constantly?icecreamcohn wrote:Posting for Iamgoofball
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pr is closed, show's over. everybody go home
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Fucking savageSaegrimr wrote:Does anybody else find this a little bit ironic in the thread about not being able to scream shit over comms constantly?icecreamcohn wrote:Posting for Iamgoofball
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
This was a poor idea.
Also stop deleting your posts since it kills any sense of keeping track of what was said.
Also stop deleting your posts since it kills any sense of keeping track of what was said.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
There aren't any posts (here) that were removed that weren't goofball posting strawpoll screamer url's.Steelpoint wrote:This was a poor idea.
Also stop deleting your posts since it kills any sense of keeping track of what was said.
(unless I missed something, but I looked before I made this post)
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Well either way.
If your goal is to make the game have a more paranoia laden feel then look to games like 'The Ship' or 'Lifeweb' and see how they accomplish this goal.
If your goal is to make the game have a more paranoia laden feel then look to games like 'The Ship' or 'Lifeweb' and see how they accomplish this goal.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I don't think the players of what /tg/station currently are really want paranoia anymore. It's more accessible and more fun without it I feel.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
paranoia is a meme buzzword.
Only kor got it right
Only kor got it right
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I like the idea. HG's approach leads something to be desired, but launching unilateral tests like this is the only way we'd get them in. If he proposed something like this with a forum thread, well, see above.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I personally don't disagree with this method of testing, at least now. Mainly due to it being the only feasible way to really test something.
The alternative is people getting into a flame war over their personal interpretations on how a change is going to be anything from negligible to something that'll kill the server.
Forcing a in game test like this is the only real way to see how a change is going to go.
The only difference here is that we already tried out this change, and it didn't go well.
The alternative is people getting into a flame war over their personal interpretations on how a change is going to be anything from negligible to something that'll kill the server.
Forcing a in game test like this is the only real way to see how a change is going to go.
The only difference here is that we already tried out this change, and it didn't go well.
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I sujested this in the shitty ideas theread for a reason
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I think we can all agree that this was not good and anybody who suggested this in the past was deeply wrong about SS13 and should not suggest this again.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
Even hg says it's shit.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
If someone runs a poll and everyone is oppossed then the idea was never good in the first place!Atlanta-Ned wrote:I like the idea. HG's approach leads something to be desired, but launching unilateral tests like this is the only way we'd get them in. If he proposed something like this with a forum thread, well, see above.
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I actually liked not hearing memes and harm yelling over the radio. It made everything spookier.
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
All the people who fucking sperged out hard over this (looking at you Luke) can not possibly argue with HG's methods now. This is the best way to test anything, and what doesn't work is thrown out. I hope you pitch a little less of a bitchfit next time
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Re: Test 4: PARANOIA ON A DEATHTRAP
I honestly can get behind this sentiment(even though I never found time to participate myself). Sometimes one needs an object lesson on why an idea is retarded, even if it's been screamed that it's bad already.Wyzack wrote:All the people who fucking sperged out hard over this (looking at you Luke) can not possibly argue with HG's methods now. This is the best way to test anything, and what doesn't work is thrown out. I hope you pitch a little less of a bitchfit next time
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