making stunprods for no reason

[PKPenguin321]

if you make a stunprod as regular crew at roundstart with no earlier provocation, you should:

kill yourself

[PKPenguin321]

this stopped being a problem for a while but lately it's started being a problem again probably because we're on the hub or whatever

so yeah

[Armhulen]

this stopped being a problem for a while but lately it's started being a problem again probably because we're on the hub or whatever

so yeah

"I'm making a stunprod"

"Why?"

"I'm paranoid"

happened today, not exact words but you see what i mean

[ShadowDimentio]

I never did it for ages but then I realized plasmaprods were fucking hilarious and have started doing it just for that.

Git gud tho if you're mad about people doing this

[Screemonster]

leaving plasma power cells lying around for assistants to turn into stunprods is a hilarious thing to do as a tator and I highly recommend it.

[paprika]

>Spears
>made the same way as stun prods
>can't put them in backpacks
>can put stun prods in backpacks

Why not make stun prods a back item like spears instead of a concealed grief weapon?

Allow them to stun if thrown at people like a spear to compensate for this as well, at least you'll be able to react if people are walking around holding them or have them on their back visibly rather than "heh looks like you picked the wrong person to try to attack buddy you're getting stunned and looted/dragged to sec"

[ShadowDimentio]

>STUNPRODS
>BACK WEAPON

Paprika get out with your awful ideas.

[paprika]

...BUH.... GOTTA HAVE A STUN MELEE WEAPON LIKE SEC... GUH I'M BAD AT THE GAME... I'M UNROBUST... HOW DO I PLAY... I NEED 1 CLICK KILL.... HHHHH... /TG/ CULTURE...

[ShadowDimentio]

If only the players weren't such shameless powergamers than maybe there would be a big negative stigma to having a stunprad without any reason

Oh wait, there is

[NikNakFlak]

god damn dimentio, did you ever give it a rest ever?

[ShadowDimentio]

Wherever shitposts are needed, I'll be there.

[paprika]

"PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE STUNPRODS ARE POWERGAMERS ALSO I'M GAY AND RETARDED"

jesus christ shadow I get it man but do you really have to beat yourself up in every post like this??

[Bluespace]

For the sake of balance, stunprods should be able to be placed in your backpack.
The crew need an easily accessible stun weapon for modes such as cult, clock cult, Rev etc etc the list goes on.
The issue is simply people pre-making them as a form of defense. It's technically power gaming, comparable to slapping the ablative vest on at round start.
Then again, I've seen virologists grab yellow gloves, full tool belts, sunglasses, a flash and a water bottle full of water at round start "just incase anything bad happens".
Power gaming only breeds more power gaming. Eventually the game would boil down to spending the round preparing for any occasion, so that when John McTraitor pulls out a syndicate pistol in the hallway, his limbs are ripped off before he can say succumb.

[paprika]

The crew need an easily accessible stun weapon for modes such as cult, clock cult, Rev etc etc the list goes on.

>this shitty unbalanced stun melee combat needs to exist because conversion gamemodes

Ok if you don't think these gamemodes are complete and utter cancer yet you are beyond saving.

It's almost like those modes should have mode-specific methods of surprising people to help you convert them.

>FLASH PAPERS
>LIMITED
>CAN'T REUSE THEM
>GOOD FOR CONVERTING BUT NOT FOR ALL OUT COMBAT

[Raphaella]

mekhi killed me with a stunprod earlier so i agree with paprika make them back items or something

or maybe make them weaker, i dunno, maybe stun for as long as a telebaton, or eater power even faster... or make their batteries irreplacable.

[Saegrimr]

DO IT, PAP

[TheNightingale]

How about we give conversion modes methods of stunning, and make stunprods back items?

[paprika]

ask cheridan or goofball to do it, they hate stuns more than me and can handle the heat better

it is a really simple change though, just have to make the 'on back' sprites

[Saegrimr]

Bring back flash stuns instead of that stupid drunk stumble.

PRO: Now more people have a reason to carry them around instead of just for silicons.
PRO: Now people can't complain that nobody carrys flashes when borgs are rogue.

CON: Why even have the telebaton anymore.

[Reece]

Can't harmbaton with a flash.

[IcePacks]

SMASH THE GLASS, KINDLE THE ROD, HUNT THE VALID

[ShadowDimentio]

It's a Paprika blaming stuns for all the evil in the world episode again

Remind me how well the stamina system worked again? Horribly? Good I'm glad I remember correctly.

[BeeSting12]

If you think thats powergaming you should see this captain we had yesterday. He cut off one of his arms so he couldn't be cuffed.

[Reyn]

Alright, alright, Time for a Canadian to stop this argument from boiling over.
On one hand, Having a stun weapon available for new people/People who have time to craft is a decent idea, and it's much better than having everyone get a taser, and it feels a bit less cheap than being soaped into submission,as the person has to put in minimal effort, and has to actually hit you. As i said, better than a craftable taser being around for balance. Would you rather be tased out of the blue at a range, or have a chance to bugger off.

On the other banana, Stunning is obnoxious as hell, and usually leads to Unavoidable death scenarios, as well as the fact that the stunPROD can be shoved into the backpack makes it just a reskin of the stunbaton. Brilliant. Mabey if it was much harder to craft, or took longer, or couldnt be hidden, that would make it fair and balanced. Plus, it makes most antags which arent stun immune, other than wizard, a joke.

In sense, these have upsides and downsides.

I'd argue that you should only make these things when its going to shit, not before

[TehSteveo]

SMASH THE GLASS, KINDLE THE ROD, HUNT THE VALID

GREYTRIBE

[Luke Cox]

Bring back flash stuns instead of that stupid drunk stumble.

PRO: Now more people have a reason to carry them around instead of just for silicons.
PRO: Now people can't complain that nobody carrys flashes when borgs are rogue.

CON: Why even have the telebaton anymore.

It would prevent people from meta-ing revs. I'm for this.

Telebaton never runs out, so there's that.

[paprika]

My proposed balance change for flashes is that they stun you instead of confusing you, but you keep the things in your hands.They wouldn't be effective as a 100% disarm tool and would simply stun people in place and blind them for a few seconds rather than making them drop to the ground after someone men-in-blacks them.

[ShadowDimentio]

>100% stun chance

Wear sunglasses. There are like 5 in maint at roundstart and if you ask a guard to get one from the warden they might.

[Saegrimr]

Shock and awe, a stun that has a hard counter unlike everything else.

[Jacough]

Back when they were still a thing, didn't people use to get in trouble for making stun gloves round start?

[IcePacks]

>100% stun chance

Wear sunglasses. There are like 5 in maint at roundstart and if you ask a guard to get one from the warden they might.

don't ask for security shit when you're non security and don't give security shit to civillians

c'mon this is common sense

[Jacough]

>100% stun chance

Wear sunglasses. There are like 5 in maint at roundstart and if you ask a guard to get one from the warden they might.

don't ask for security shit when you're non security and don't give security shit to civillians

c'mon this is common sense

I'll usually give a lawyer a pair of sunglasses when I play warden if they ask for them. It's not like it'll do them any good against tasers or stun batons.

[TheColdTurtle]

SUNGLASSES AGAIN AAAAHHHHH

[PKPenguin321]

Haha what the fuck happened in this thread

Literally the only problem is crew making stunprods for no reason at roundstart
Like there's this one guy who every single round goes to the chapel and welds down a wall at the top into electrical maintenance, then deconstructs the SMESs for power cells

Shit like that is fuckin gay and if you do it then kill yourself

If you get attacked and survive or whatever and think conflict will come to you again later on feel free to make a prod I guess

[NikNakFlak]

>Build an excessive amount of IEDs and plasmaprods preparing for my first encounter to be my last
>COM @ ME ANTAGS
>Get bombsuit to survive my suicide bombs if I'm lucky

[Skorvold]

Since the dawn of time, man has felt the need to protect himself.

[Incomptinence]

I always assumed the i ded plz nerf quadrant involved obsessive prod making.

Colour me surprised at this entire thread. Or maybe it's a case of do as I say not as I do stupidity.

[PKPenguin321]

I always assumed the i ded plz nerf quadrant involved obsessive prod making.

Colour me surprised at this entire thread. Or maybe it's a case of do as I say not as I do stupidity.

what did he mean by this

[Supermichael777]

Coding it as a back object would be easy just need sprites

[captain sawrge]

make it so stun prods have a 90% chance of stunning the user instead of the target

[420goslingboy69]

bring back throwing cable coils for 10 damage

[captain sawrge]

bring back quickthrowing and wallthrowing

[Davidchan]

Changing stun prods to not fit in bags isn't going to fix it, it's just going to make people carry disassembled prods. Flashes or a new ghetto taser that only gets one stun before falling apart and needs to be reassembled with a recharged powercell might be better.

[captain sawrge]

remove all non-sec stuns from the game

[420goslingboy69]

remove all non-sec stuns from the game

^
leave slipping tho

[captain sawrge]

soap becomes the most valuable resource in the srtation

[420goslingboy69]

soap becomes the most valuable resource in the srtation

all the funny guys and girls rushing at roundstart for that primo soap

[Reyn]

bring back quickthrowing and wallthrowing

"Remember the basics of cqc"

[onleavedontatme]

In the last 30 days the following objects were made:

/obj/item/weapon/melee/baton/cattleprod 335

In the last 30 days (720 hours), the server has been up for:

Rounds played: 828

Few people actually build stun prods round start.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Stun prods more like funprods

I like bolas more tbh but that's cuz I idead them up