Fallout 4 - It's Happening

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:42 pm #95927

Bottom post of the previous page:

I am questioning the practicality of a plasma sniper rifle, though, given that plasma projectiles tend to be slow a.f.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:14 pm #95933

Loonikus wrote:On the other hand, I can promise you that their new Bethesda Net or whatever will a platform for paid mods. Also, I dislike the pre-war focus. I've always felt like Fallout was about the post-post-apocalypse, the Great War was 200+ years ago after all. By making such personal connection between the PC and pre-war times I feel like they are focusing on ancient history rather than the post apocalypse.

My main concern is that Bethesda might forget that Fallout is supposed to be funny and cast the post-apocalypse in a pitch-black humorous light. Fallout 3 was rather serious, which is one of the main reasons why I liked the not-so-serious and often downright silly Fallout NV better.

But judging by that final teaser they showed, they have it covered.

DemonFiren wrote:I am questioning the practicality of a plasma sniper rifle, though, given that plasma projectiles tend to be slow a.f.

It's cool to have the option. At least now I can really carry a full arsenal of energy weapons around. Keeping my fingers crossed for the Gauss Rifle to return in some way or shape.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:22 pm #95940

Gauss rifle being a sniper only weapon was a massive disappointment considering it was my favorite weapon from fallout 2. Although even worse was the unarmored tribals from point lookout being able to take a round to the face with minimal damage. That whole expansion pissed me right off

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:26 pm #95941

Gauss rifles are orgasmic.

And I'm fine with them being sniper-focused.

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:50 pm #95945

>Female character.

This is it. I don't have any worries about this anymore. Fuck anything else. Fuck voices, fuck pre-war stuff. I got sold the second they started making guns out of stuff, it's not modding them, it's fucking making guns.
Everything with this is pure yes.

EDIT: Think of Pr0n possibilites.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:10 pm #95949

I have, Kot, I have ever since that Deathclaw did its neckgrab thing.

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:41 pm #95959

i will get this game just so i can fast-travel with my homies in our vertibird and shoot at random mutantss just minding their own damn business with a gatling gun screaming "YEAH, GET SOME"

Kot · Post by **Kot** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:57 pm #95972

DemonFiren wrote:I have, Kot, I have ever since that Deathclaw did its neckgrab thing.

Out of curiosity I visited certain sites on internet. They're almost blowing to start working on FO4.

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:12 pm #96065

IcePacks wrote:i will get this game just so i can fast-travel with my homies in our vertibird and shoot at random mutantss just minding their own damn business with a gatling gun screaming "YEAH, GET SOME"

Can I be a homie yo

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:52 pm #96281

no trip ass muties allowed

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:18 pm #96302

Please no followers please. Nothing ruins the big empty post apocalyptic feeling like having 3-4 idiots tagging along behind you complaining about every rad scorpion and eyedrone.

Just have the dog and nobody else.

If you traveled the game with anyone but ED-E you're shit.

It's a fucking post-nuclear wasteland not a goddamn flashmob.

Party members are a crutch for the weak to lean on.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:25 pm #96307

Bitch pls, nothing beats the snark of Veronica or Arcade.

Or the .308 caliber flaming sword of justice with a telescopic sight that Boone's packing.

Takeguru · Post by **Takeguru** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:25 pm #96308

I can't wait for the mods that remodel the dog.

Wasteland corgi lets go

With matching hats

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:22 pm #96523

im still sad that LIBERTY PRIME wasnt a follower.

Maccus · Post by **Maccus** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:28 pm #96531

Veronica's the worst follower

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:42 pm

Miauw wrote:im still sad that LIBERTY PRIME wasnt a follower.

The best you get is his head stuck on a table babbling on about how we'll stop those commies at some point.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:45 pm #96535

>Veronica
>Not Raul

Bitch, pls. Give her a ballistic fist and power armour and watch her FALCON PAUNCH everything to death.

TheNightingale · Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:49 pm

Maccus wrote:Veronica's the worst follower

You can give Ronnie a dress, though.
I mean, she won't wear it, but a dress. Console commands and she'll actually wear it, too!

(I still take Cass and ED-E, though. I'd go with Boone, but he attacks Legion on sight. I like my reputation neutral or better, thank you very much...)

FO4's dog, Dogmeat, is confirmed to be essential though (even on Hardcore, possibly?), so I know who I'm vertibirding with. It's set around the War time, though, so I doubt there'll be any returning companions.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:59 pm

FO4's dog isn't Dogmeat, it has a customisable name, the first time you see it in the trailers it's just called "Dog", they simply chose dogmeat.

Also I don't think it's set around the War time, the Sole survivor is such as they are the only one to leave Vault 111, not to mention the muties wouldn't exist at war time.
(Unless you mean the original Brotherhood vs super mutant war, then maybe, since the other "War Time" still has the Brotherhood as the American Military sealed up in a vault, they took time to form the Brotherhood and actually leave their vault(s))

I'm expecting some time between or after 2161(F) to 2281(F:NV)
Actually, I'd like to see a Fallout set in 2377, which is the time Vault 101's PA system claims the USA will be habitable again (Hilariously this makes the Lone Wanderer 100 years too early to leave, honk)

also cool ass map showing Fallout locations in their Real world locations: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... GYzdDqm_wA

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:40 pm #96543

Didn't the robot in the trailer say that 111 has been out of it for 200 years? Fallout 4 probably takes place not too long after 3 and NV.

Would be interesting if they pulled something like that one quest in Skyrim that has you meet who is suggested to be your character from Oblivion (or at least that is what I'm told, I have never done the quest myself), only it's the Lone Wanderer or the Courier.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:53 pm

I'm surprised more games with sequels don't pull the "Oh there's a savefile from the last game on here... mwhahahaha time for fun"
While I highly doubt it, I'd love to see them load old characters from previous games like that in F4.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:59 pm #96547

I don't think Skyrim actually pulled any save data. I'm absolutely not sure, I read somewhere that there is a character in that quest who is some kind of eccentric spirit or something, who is suggested to be your Oblivion character who became a god or something weird like that. Apparently the entire quest is kinda weird.

I would probably know more about it if I actually played the quest, or finished Oblivion.

It would definitely be cool if Fallout 4 did something like that with actual save data though. I always carry an arsenal of energy weapons around.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:24 pm #96548

Spoilers ahead

The Canon ending for the hero of kvatch in oblivion is to complete the shivering isles expansion and become the new incarnation of Sheogorath, the deadric prince of madness. It is more like ascending to godhood, and the quest involving Sheogorath in skyrim happens if you have save data or not

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:14 pm #96634

Fallout 1 and 2 had some connections (they take place a few decades apart so a few NPC's are still alive and the hero of the game is a descendent of the hero of the first game).

I like how they haven't had any real strong connections since then in terms of plot or setting. There's more of a sense of wonder and exploration of a strange world when you don't know who or what you might bump into, or how their feelings towards you might be. The Brotherhood of Steel, for example, vary a lot in terms of how friendly or antagonistic they can be towards you game-to-game. You can't see that armor and immediately assume friend.

Remie Richards wrote:FO4's dog isn't Dogmeat, it has a customisable name, the first time you see it in the trailers it's just called "Dog", they simply chose dogmeat.

If you don't name him Dogmeat you're not doing it right. Dogmeat has been the companion of the wanderer in every game except New Vegas, where he got swapped for Rex.
The Dogmeat in FO3 is a descendant of the original Dogmeat from FO. The Dogmeat in FO2 isn't.

Again if you have to take any humanoid companions with you though you suck shit and should just go stay in your fault and cry yourself to death.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:16 pm

Oh yes by all means name him Dogmeat all you please, but it's not dogmeat and shouldn't be referred to as such, it's [insert customisable name which is probably a penis joke for some people ] dog.
or just "the dog"

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:20 pm #96638

if you guys don't all name him Ian I will come down to your houses and hide under your beds and in the middle of the night blow on a vuvuzela

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:23 pm #96640

Getting dogmeat in fallout 2 was kind of an easter egg though, one of those random map encounters that should not really exist. You could have a whole dog party in Fallout 2, bad luck dog was best dog

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:24 pm #96642

Wyzack wrote:Getting dogmeat in fallout 2 was kind of an easter egg though, one of those random map encounters that should not really exist. You could have a whole dog party in Fallout 2, bad luck dog was best dog

Oh god I totally forgot about that fucking dog.

Remie Richards wrote:Oh yes by all means name him Dogmeat all you please, but it's not dogmeat and shouldn't be referred to as such, it's [insert customisable name which is probably a penis joke for some people ] dog.
or just "the dog"

He's Dogmeat. You can name him whatever you want, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a wild dog companion in a Fallout game and, therefore, Dogmeat.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:25 pm #96643

There was so much great shit in that game. Maybe i will replay it.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:32 pm #96644

In Fallout 2 you can have a whole party of Dogs, yeah.

Dogmeat, Pariah, K-9, and Robodog.

QuartzCrystal · Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:54 pm

The whole settlement building thing is going to be a major time sink for me.

Remie Richards · Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:09 pm

For me it'll be the Armour/Weapon crafting, that's my time sink right there.
(and lore oh god give me more juicy lore please)

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:16 pm #96659

Or for that all mutie party you can take take Marcus, the ghoul doctor and the

Spoiler:

LunchboxKilla · Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:07 am

http://imgur.com/gallery/UjbFd

for those crying about skills being removed

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:09 pm #96826

Removing skills in a Fallout game would have been fucking blasphemy, and contradict everything else they showed us as far as awesomeness levels are concerned.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:21 pm #96833

Honestly if they want to switch it all up I don't mind.

Fallout was originally a turn-based isometric CRPG.

It's now a first-person shooter with RPG elements.

It stands to reason that the underlying game system for the first style of game might not be the best fit for the second style of game. If you've put enough hours into Fallout 3/NV you will notice very quickly that some of the skill holdovers from days of yore either don't work very well or work way too well.

I've been playing Fallout since the first demo of it dropped in PC Gamer and I welcome change.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:39 pm #96838

war never changes

gameplay on the other hand

mosquitoman · Post by **mosquitoman** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:20 pm #96846

so some fallout mobile game came out so they can make a quick buck on the hype and predictably it's super shit:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/ ... of-mobile/

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:04 am #96912

>make a quick buck on the hype

It's a fucking free download you sperg.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:17 am #96915

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 am #96925

Replaying 2 and then New Vegas in order to get hype, Fallout 2 Charisma builds are the fucking shit.

Amnestik · Post by **Amnestik** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:32 am #96928

I've been playing TTW again in preparation. It's taking longer than I'd like due to my OCD need to completely clear out every level of everything that could possibly have value. There's some much hidden shit in this game, and I don't want to miss any of it.

Remie Richards · Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:00 am

Been replaying 3, then I'll probably replay backwards OR finally work up the courage to beat tactics (I'm so close to Vault 0 I wanna cry)

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:05 am #96941

Going to replay Tactics. It's the only one I never beat.

Remie Richards · Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:22 am

An0n3 wrote:Going to replay Tactics. It's the only one I never beat.

Glad I'm not the only one!, Tactics got really hard towards the end even with a load of power armour and plasma rifles.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:28 am #96945

Remie Richards wrote:
An0n3 wrote:Going to replay Tactics. It's the only one I never beat.
Glad I'm not the only one!, Tactics got really hard towards the end even with a load of power armour and plasma rifles.

I ran into a bit of a wall where I had a crack squad of infiltration experts who normally operated by sneaking into places and assassinating everyone.

That stops working towards the end of the game.

Everyone becomes fucking psychic, and on the off chance you manage to sneak up on one of these mentons people become magically aware the moment you kill someone.

It's a really neat game otherwise though, very underrated. I'm a big JA fan too though so.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:43 am #96957

Remie Richards wrote:
An0n3 wrote:Going to replay Tactics. It's the only one I never beat.
Glad I'm not the only one!, Tactics got really hard towards the end even with a load of power armour and plasma rifles.

You did way better than me. I officially suck ass at the game. I hit a brick wall when I got to that one map where you had to get into the super mutant base with four guard towers with supermutants armed with Browning M2s posted on each one. Being the dumb shit I am I didn't really have any characters that excelled in sneak and well, with 15 round bursts and 40-50 dmg per round those browning M2s tore through my squad like a knife through hot butter. Might give the game another shot though.

Remie Richards · Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:50 am

Jacough wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:
An0n3 wrote:Going to replay Tactics. It's the only one I never beat.
Glad I'm not the only one!, Tactics got really hard towards the end even with a load of power armour and plasma rifles.
You did way better than me. I officially suck ass at the game. I hit a brick wall when I got to that one map where you had to get into the super mutant base with four guard towers with supermutants armed with Browning M2s posted on each one. Being the dumb shit I am I didn't really have any characters that excelled in sneak and well, with 15 round bursts and 40-50 dmg per round those browning M2s tore through my squad like a knife through hot butter. Might give the game another shot though.

Don't actually remember that mission, but since I was past the super mutants and onto the

Spoiler:

I clearly beat it easily, lol.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:26 am #96971

Try Jagged Alliance 2 or something to train yourself up.

THE MIGHTY GALVATRON · Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:30 am

I kinda want to try out Brotherhood of Steel, even though I hear it's not so good. I gotta try tactics again too, I think I stopped after the first mission because of TOO MANY GAMES.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:31 am #96975

Brotherhood of Steel is stupid shit. Both as a Fallout game and as a game in general. My younger brother had bought it when it came out and we played it together. It sucked.