In Defence of Racist Prickery

[Intercept0r]

I love racism, even if imaginary.

That being said, players most deserving of a tabling, vitriolic remark and a ride down disposals generally play humans as the optimal species.

I believe the primary cause of species blindness is that there is no real reason to ever be paranoid about a species. Cult or rev draw the line between the good and bad guys, but it's always orthogonal to species.

The only element that gives any reason to be antagonistic towards other races are ashliggers and even then, there's hardly any solidarity between station and lavaland lizards.

An event or gamemode like nonhuman supremacy (I'm thinking a twist on revs) would probably push the game towards more inter-species conflict - by giving snowflake races a reason to speak in their species language (discretion) and other players the possibility to suspect a racial species supremacy event is going on.

I don't think this game mode should ever be available for humans, because humans already are established as both in-lore and de facto dominant species, and because it doesn't take a genius to figure out what glyph players would choose to signify their allegiance to the human race.

[Screemonster]

I love racism, even if imaginary.

That being said, players most deserving of a tabling, vitriolic remark and a ride down disposals generally play humans as the optimal species.

I believe the primary cause of species blindness is that there is no real reason to ever be paranoid about a species. Cult or rev draw the line between the good and bad guys, but it's always orthogonal to species.

The only element that gives any reason to be antagonistic towards other races are ashliggers and even then, there's hardly any solidarity between station and lavaland lizards.

An event or gamemode like nonhuman supremacy (I'm thinking a twist on revs) would probably push the game towards more inter-species conflict - by giving snowflake races a reason to speak in their species language (discretion) and other players the possibility to suspect a racial species supremacy event is going on.

I don't think this game mode should ever be available for humans, because humans already are established as both in-lore and de facto dominant species, and because it doesn't take a genius to figure out what glyph players would choose to signify their allegiance to the human race.

The problem with this idea is that the first time a lizard does something remotely greytidey there's always gonna be that guy that's like "GAS THE LIZARDS IT'S RACE WAR" and use the existence of that gamemode to justify why they decided every lizard was valid

[XDTM]

I love racism, even if imaginary.

even if?

An event or gamemode like nonhuman supremacy (I'm thinking a twist on revs) would probably push the game towards more inter-species conflict - by giving snowflake races a reason to speak in their species language (discretion) and other players the possibility to suspect a racial species supremacy event is going on.

There's plenty of potential for creative conflict in the game without actively pushing players because they aren't acting racist enough.

[wesoda25]

I love racism, even if imaginary.

That being said, players most deserving of a tabling, vitriolic remark and a ride down disposals generally play humans as the optimal species.

I believe the primary cause of species blindness is that there is no real reason to ever be paranoid about a species. Cult or rev draw the line between the good and bad guys, but it's always orthogonal to species.

The only element that gives any reason to be antagonistic towards other races are ashliggers and even then, there's hardly any solidarity between station and lavaland lizards.

An event or gamemode like nonhuman supremacy (I'm thinking a twist on revs) would probably push the game towards more inter-species conflict - by giving snowflake races a reason to speak in their species language (discretion) and other players the possibility to suspect a racial species supremacy event is going on.

I don't think this game mode should ever be available for humans, because humans already are established as both in-lore and de facto dominant species, and because it doesn't take a genius to figure out what glyph players would choose to signify their allegiance to the human race.

Honey, no.

[cacogen]

This ain't it, chief

[Ayy Lemoh]

worst beginner sentence to have in this thread

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The problem with this idea is that the first time a lizard does something remotely greytidey there's always gonna be that guy that's like "GAS THE LIZARDS IT'S RACE WAR" and use the existence of that gamemode to justify why they decided every lizard was valid

Imagine revs but they don't even get the flash to convert. At best, you'll have 5-10 dudes including you. At worst, it's you and someone else. Man, I can't wait to do blood brothers reskinned or blood brothers but nuke ops edition!

[Screemonster]

worst beginner sentence to have in this thread

words words words

The problem with this idea is that the first time a lizard does something remotely greytidey there's always gonna be that guy that's like "GAS THE LIZARDS IT'S RACE WAR" and use the existence of that gamemode to justify why they decided every lizard was valid

Imagine revs but they don't even get the flash to convert. At best, you'll have 5-10 dudes including you. At worst, it's you and someone else. Man, I can't wait to do blood brothers reskinned or blood brothers but nuke ops edition!

blood brothers reskinned but with a hard tell for who the other blood brothers are if one of them gets caught

[Intercept0r]

The problem with this idea is that the first time a lizard does something remotely greytidey there's always gonna be that guy that's like "GAS THE LIZARDS IT'S RACE WAR" and use the existence of that gamemode to justify why they decided every lizard was valid

Imagine revs but they don't even get the flash to convert. At best, you'll have 5-10 dudes including you. At worst, it's you and someone else. Man, I can't wait to do blood brothers reskinned or blood brothers but nuke ops edition!

blood brothers reskinned but with a hard tell for who the other blood brothers are if one of them gets caught

All good points. My point isn't about adding revs with races specifically though, but more broadly about making race more relevant in game modes and random events. Revs with races is a blunt example, don't read too much into it.

[cacogen]

It's a shame that humans are so braindead and self-defeating racism must continue in the 26th century/against fictional races in a video game

[Intercept0r]

It's a shame that humans are so braindead and self-defeating racism must continue in the 26th century/against fictional races in a video game

Spessgame is not meant as a template for the society of the future. Real racism bad. This is about whether more interesting social interactions can be achieved by in-grouping based on imaginary species.

[cacogen]

The lizard and moth metacliques already exist and the answer is no

[Farquaar]

An event or gamemode like nonhuman supremacy (I'm thinking a twist on revs) would probably push the game towards more inter-species conflict - by giving snowflake races a reason to speak in their species language (discretion) and other players the possibility to suspect a racial species supremacy event is going on.

I don't think this game mode should ever be available for humans, because humans already are established as both in-lore and de facto dominant species, and because it doesn't take a genius to figure out what glyph players would choose to signify their allegiance to the human race.

This is unironically a fantastic idea, the implementation of which would be a tangible step to solving the problem I sought to draw attention to in this thread.

The problem with this idea is that the first time a lizard does something remotely greytidey there's always gonna be that guy that's like "GAS THE LIZARDS IT'S RACE WAR" and use the existence of that gamemode to justify why they decided every lizard was valid

You know that killing the janitor just because he talked about unionizing IC is random murder, right? Doubly so on Manuel. Security who don't go through due diligence and investigate whether a target is a probable antag will eat a ban, just like with every other gamemode.

Imagine revs but they don't even get the flash to convert. At best, you'll have 5-10 dudes including you. At worst, it's you and someone else. Man, I can't wait to do blood brothers reskinned or blood brothers but nuke ops edition!

I wonder how a rogue AI can manage to overthrow the entire station when he only has a few borgs at his command. If only they were to give rogue AIs special abilities that allow them to accomplish their nefarious goals in an interesting manner.

All good points. My point isn't about adding revs with races specifically though, but more broadly about making race more relevant in game modes and random events. Revs with races is a blunt example, don't read too much into it.

You've got nothing to apologize for, lad. A few naysayers may call you mad, but I call you a visionary.

[Ayy Lemoh]

You know that killing the janitor just because he talked about unionizing IC is random murder, right? Doubly so on Manuel. Security who don't go through due diligence and investigate whether a target is a probable antag will eat a ban, just like with every other gamemode.

I wonder how a rogue AI can manage to overthrow the entire station when he only has a few borgs at his command. If only they were to give rogue AIs special abilities that allow them to accomplish their nefarious goals in an interesting manner.

Let's say one bad lizard = every lizard bad. At some point, roleplay or not, it will turn into a math problem of "If John McSec had to kill three hostile lizards, what's the probability that he will just find an excuse to kill all the other lizards?"

Also if we added cool species abilities, it would most likely turn into a shitstorm that oranges would never allow. The AI and his goons are also very different from normal players because they can't pick up weapons, function more like simplemobs in a way, and can be countered by some of the dumbest shit.

[Timonk]

3. The station is a "nonsensical, metal death trap masquerading as a space station", where paranoia is the norm.

None of this in the common core lore

Then why do you allow it to be used in map design

[cacogen]

The common core lore sounds like fan fiction written by stupid people

This post was deleted by Rustledjimm on Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:17 am.
Reason: I'm bored

[Megarop]

I love racism