Greytide > Gaytide

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:40 am #365143

Bring back greytide boys, down with gaytide

Dr_bee · Post by **Dr_bee** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:49 am #365145

No, we havent gone far enough! Instead of random colors make all assistants wear RAINBOW JUMPSUITS!

THE PRIDE TIDE NEVER ENDS

Mark9013100 · Post by **Mark9013100** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:50 am #365146

ANARCHY IN THE UK.

Post by **oranges** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:13 am #365151

this is a server config and hence a policy thread

Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:09 am

fukc rainbow jumpsuits

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 am #365381

This just in: Bee unsure of his masculinity.

imblyings · Post by **imblyings** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:11 am #365405

>>>>>>>>Greytide >Gaytide

take ♂ it ♂ boy

feem · Post by **feem** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:21 am #365408

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Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:26 am

imblyings wrote:>>>>>>>>Greytide >Gaytide

take ♂ it ♂ boy

this but unironically

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

rainbowtide best tide

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:33 pm #365586

Soyboy

Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:59 pm

grey pride station wide

fucking griseophobes dont you know it's the year 2557 i thought we were past this

Qbmax32 · Post by **Qbmax32** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:04 pm #365879

Oohn jolliver

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:51 pm #365941

this thread isnt a shitpost im serious change the config back to grey jumpsuits. grey jumpsuits are an iconic pary of ss13 and im sad to see them gone

Nabski · Post by **Nabski** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:59 pm #365945

Shouldn't this be in coding feedback then?
I'm a fan of rainbows.
It makes detective work a little cooler?

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:00 pm #365947

This config originally existed as some kind of misguided attempt to cut down on greyshittery by giving assistants some semblance of identity at roundstart to set them apart from other assistants. It has been disabled for some time, what prompted it being reenabled?

Not-Dorsidarf · Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:15 pm

some headmin decided the station was too grey to be festive

Post by **oranges** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:17 pm #365981

Nabski wrote:Shouldn't this be in coding feedback then?
I'm a fan of rainbows.
It makes detective work a little cooler?

The codebase has no control over how configs are set, it's an admin policy question

Lumbermancer · Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm

I know work is an alien concept to grey tide, but getting new jumpsuit from locker room is pretty easy.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:05 pm #366023

captain sawrge · Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:22 pm

Wyzack wrote:This config originally existed as some kind of misguided attempt to cut down on greyshittery by giving assistants some semblance of identity at roundstart to set them apart from other assistants. It has been disabled for some time, what prompted it being reenabled?

mso disabled it alongside cat ears last week but nobody's brave enough to smack that mf meteor button in the name of the gray

Dr_bee · Post by **Dr_bee** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:07 am #366073

I like it personally, it makes it easier to spot assholes. It is easier to scream, about the asshole in the red jumpsuit assaulting people than one of many assholes in grey jumpsuits.

If you want to wear grey there are entire lockers filled with the grey jumpsuit, personally this config makes spotting individual shitters easier.

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:10 am #366074

Part of the assistant role is anonymity, I feel like this removes that anonymity which I don't like. The grey jumpsuit makes you feel like one of a hundred, disposable.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:06 am #366090

BeeSting12 wrote:The grey jumpsuit makes you feel like one of a hundred, disposable.

completely 100% unironically

you are

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:20 am #366096

I would like to know why the host turned this on in the first place.

Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:01 am

i doubt it was mso considering i havent heard anything from anybody who actually has access to the config

onleavedontatme · Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:52 am

It was mso

onleavedontatme · Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:52 am

iirc it was because he wanted to make security easier given all the 100+ pop rounds we have been having

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:28 am #366134

Kor wrote:iirc it was because he wanted to make security easier given all the 100+ pop rounds we have been having

seems fair but this is another "making changes without telling anybody" gimmick rip

Post by **oranges** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:47 am #366158

bruh I fucking told you who changed it fuck why don't you believe me

Lumbermancer · Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:26 am

Kor wrote:iirc it was because he wanted to make security easier given all the 100+ pop rounds we have been having

Does not compute.

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:45 am #366176

>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?

Dr_bee · Post by **Dr_bee** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 am #366183

Lumbermancer wrote:
Kor wrote:iirc it was because he wanted to make security easier given all the 100+ pop rounds we have been having
Does not compute.

As I said before, it is easier to point out which people are assholes if they arent all wearing the same getup. usually people are identified by name and then their job, for assistants that didnt work because there were so fucking god damn many of them.

Now you can identify a criminal assistant by the color of jumpsuit they wear, which means they actually have to use half a brain and maybe change clothing occasionally to not get caught instead of hiding behind the anonymity of 20 other jackoffs wearing the same uniform as you.

kevinz000 wrote:>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?

Uniforms have been used to foster solidarity forever, take away the uniform and you take away one tool that people use to recognize each other as allies.

Sociology is funny sometimes.

Lumbermancer · Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 am

Grey is in the heart.

Lumbermancer · Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:41 am

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:58 am #366199

reminder that this idea was originally proposed by paprika in one of his recurring salt eruptions and was quickly discarded once people realized a) what it was b) proposed by leibniz and coded by paprika but removed when it wasn't doing shit

Post by **Arianya** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:03 pm #366278

wtf i like mso now

(keep it)

Nilons · Post by **Nilons** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:57 pm #366305

I think making assistants multicoloured and not all grey detracts from the culture a bit. Everytime I see an edit of a picture or art of an assistant with a grey jumpsuit, yellow gloves, a toolbelt, and a gas mask it cracks me up. Doesn't really work if they're all different colours. Might seem silly but it just seems like one of those things that's embedded in the game at this point IMO. Especially considering they can grab a grey jumpsuit from dorms anyways.

SpaceInaba · Post by **SpaceInaba** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:24 pm #366360

this was a stealth buff to detectives so I obviously approve

EagleWiz · Post by **EagleWiz** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:16 pm #366392

Any assistant nerf is A OK with me.

Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:25 pm

kevinz000 wrote:>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?

no
it actually does nothing and boils down to aesthetic preferences
technically yeah it does make detective work very slightly easier though assuming an assistant was behind a crime and never changed his jumpsuit and got fibers on the crime scene in the first place and there are no other assistants wearing the same jumpsuit color

Post by **Dax Dupont** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:38 pm #366572

PKPenguin321 wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?
no
it actually does nothing and boils down to aesthetic preferences
technically yeah it does make detective work very slightly easier though assuming an assistant was behind a crime and never changed his jumpsuit and got fibers on the crime scene in the first place and there are no other assistants wearing the same jumpsuit color

It makes reporting crime easier in general when you didn't see the name. Especially with a lot of tides that looking almost exactly the same.

Nilons · Post by **Nilons** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:44 pm #366575

Dax Dupont wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?
no
it actually does nothing and boils down to aesthetic preferences
technically yeah it does make detective work very slightly easier though assuming an assistant was behind a crime and never changed his jumpsuit and got fibers on the crime scene in the first place and there are no other assistants wearing the same jumpsuit color
It makes reporting crime easier in general when you didn't see the name. Especially with a lot of tides that looking almost exactly the same.

I've played a relative shitton since they made the change compared to how much I normally play, haven't had one person report a crime using the jumpsuits colour.

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:24 pm #366591

theres no point to reporting a crime by jumpsuit color if you can just scroll up and read attack logs

Dr_bee · Post by **Dr_bee** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:00 am #366709

Nilons wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:>assistants stop banding together because their uniform colors aren't grey
holy shit does grey really mean that much to greytide?
no
it actually does nothing and boils down to aesthetic preferences
technically yeah it does make detective work very slightly easier though assuming an assistant was behind a crime and never changed his jumpsuit and got fibers on the crime scene in the first place and there are no other assistants wearing the same jumpsuit color
It makes reporting crime easier in general when you didn't see the name. Especially with a lot of tides that looking almost exactly the same.
I've played a relative shitton since they made the change compared to how much I normally play, haven't had one person report a crime using the jumpsuits colour.

It has helped me identify a greytiding asshole who stole my RCD when I was an engineer once. Looking for the asshole in the red jumpsuit is easier than looking for one of many assholes in grey jumpsuits.

Just because you havent personally used it, doesnt mean it isnt useful.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:54 am #366763

oranges wrote:
Nabski wrote:Shouldn't this be in coding feedback then?
I'm a fan of rainbows.
It makes detective work a little cooler?
The codebase has no control over how configs are set, it's an admin policy question

You could just remove the thing (colored jumpsuits) code-side.

IIRC it was done in the past to bypass config options, the fact that it's not being done now means that coders approve of this change.

leibniz · Post by **leibniz** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:21 am #366774

heh this was my idea and paprika took all the blame for it because he coded it

but actually people should blame oranges, trust me

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:49 pm #366823

leibniz wrote:heh this was my idea and paprika took all the blame for it because he coded it

but actually people should blame oranges, trust me

This is always a viable solution for all things.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:43 am #368842

Grazyn wrote:
oranges wrote:
Nabski wrote:Shouldn't this be in coding feedback then?
I'm a fan of rainbows.
It makes detective work a little cooler?
The codebase has no control over how configs are set, it's an admin policy question
You could just remove the thing (colored jumpsuits) code-side.

IIRC it was done in the past to bypass config options, the fact that it's not being done now means that coders approve of this change.

Oddly enough i added it as a config after a coder (paprika) tried to shoehorn the change in as a unconfigable thing.

Bagil has it to balance out the pops and help security as well as cut down on grey tide. sybil and terry are still grey tide.

In general I'll always be looking for ways to tweak the config to help balance out populations.

Post by **Dax Dupont** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:17 pm #369352

MrStonedOne wrote: In general I'll always be looking for ways to tweak the config to help balance out populations.

People seemed to shift more and more to bagil after catgrills were removed from sybil.