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remove boxstation from rotation

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby cacogen » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 am #544248

I know but the point was that it was deprecated and unmaintained and clearly that isn't the case



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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Steelpoint » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:00 am #544257

The difference between Box and the other maps is that Boxstation is the OG, the original.

It should not be some highly efficient, well designed, highly logical station. Its a older, broken, mess with illogical and unpleasing aesthetics.

The bugs are a fair point but from what I've read these issues manifest on all the other stations, its just apparently more pronounced on Box due to its higher tendency for things to go wrong due to its dangerous design.
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Flatulent » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:24 am #544268

If there's a serious bug that never gets fixed, the map is by definition undermaintained and a trillion overhauls that do not fix the fucking bug will not change this.
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby oranges » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:06 am #544279

the bug is in the powernet code you retards

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Bawhoppennn » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:20 am #544286

I may be alone in this opinion, but I think Box is really the only map that has any soul to it (Meta kinda does as well I guess). In my eyes, the other maps seem like sort of lifeless watered down husks that are just collections of different rooms and hallways. Compared to Box, the other maps just seem to be kind of routine and monotonous in how things play out on them.
Also, the other maps have WAYYYY too many decorations and floor decals, not to mention a giant overabundance of freebie resources everywhere (security has atleast 2 filled spray cleaner bottles on several maps... that gives the janitor a lot to do).


(Also this may sound really antagonistic towards the other maps, but I don't mean it that way or hold a grudge against them. I know a lot of effort and heart was put into each one. These are just my thoughts on why I prefer Box.)
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Flatulent » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:25 am #544289

oranges wrote:the bug is in the powernet code you retards

then we can also remove donut for the same reason while we are at it
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby cacogen » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:07 pm #544354

oranges wrote:the bug is in the powernet code you retards

lmao

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Agux909 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:08 pm #544356

Flatulent wrote:
oranges wrote:the bug is in the powernet code you retards

then we can also remove donut for the same reason while we are at it


No. Stop removing maps. Kilo was justified because it was a confirmed crash most rounds, but minor stuff like this can be fixed in no time, right? (looks at the talking fruit)
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Jack7D1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:54 pm #544365

We don't need less maps, we need more maps. More maps means more variety and less metaknowledge and shit. I dislike Metastation because every round the ORM is unwrenched to get to the autolathe.
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby skoglol » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:14 pm #544367

Reason we need less maps is partially due to noone wanting to update certain maps (wheres plumbing?) And the utter soulsucking work that is remapping on 6 maps bogging down cool feature PR's. Lets not even mention map merge conflicts.

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Farquaar » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:00 pm #544385

While I would miss Boxstation’s cafeteria, I just can’t stand fact that as a chef I have to drill through the walls to get into hydroponics every shift.

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby imsxz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:05 pm #544387

Agux909 wrote:
Flatulent wrote:
oranges wrote:the bug is in the powernet code you retards

then we can also remove donut for the same reason while we are at it


No. Stop removing maps. Kilo was justified because it was a confirmed crash most rounds, but minor stuff like this can be fixed in no time, right? (looks at the talking fruit)


the bug only happens on boxstation. it can be fixed whenever someone wants to fix it. Could be an hour from now, could be in 5 years when enough people have complained about box removal for at least 1 of them to fix it themselves. When the “improve vs remove” situation domes up, remove wins by default if there’s no actual change ready for improvement
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby imsxz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:15 pm #544388

PKPenguin321 wrote:Proofs? Round ID? Github issue?

I will give you the round id of the next round I play on boxstation if it lasts long enough
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby skoglol » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:14 pm #544395

imsxz wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:Proofs? Round ID? Github issue?

I will give you the round id of the next round I play on boxstation if it lasts long enough


https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/48026

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby CDranzer » Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:51 am #544627

Meta == Delta > Box == Kilo > Pubby > The Derelict > A Mining Shelter Pod in the Void > The Asteroid Escape Shuttle > Donut

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Tarchonvaagh » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:53 pm #546075

CDranzer wrote:Meta == Delta > Box == Kilo > Pubby > The Derelict > A Mining Shelter Pod in the Void > The Asteroid Escape Shuttle > Donut

Pubby is better than box imo
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby pugie » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:52 pm #546365

pubby aka shift start holy melons and cremator in security.
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Timonk » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:11 am #546430

pugie wrote:pubby aka shift start holy melons and cremator in security.

Don't forget the maint sunglasses
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Timonk » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:15 am #546431

Do you people seriously not understand? Are your peabrains too small? The slogan "improve not remove" is another way for oranges to say "do my work that I got promoted for for me, I'm just watching yall so you don't pr any illegal stuff like... Good maint loot". See it now? Embrace the truth.
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Cobby » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:18 pm #546468

for the people recommending we keep maps/add more, can I personally count on you to maintain at least one (1) map?
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby cacogen » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:01 am #546501

what does maintenance involve? i'm happy to keep boxstation up to date in terms of adding new features to it (although implementers usually do this themselves) and to fix any map errors (e.g. piping, active turfs, wires, camera tags, etc.) with it

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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby Cobby » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:48 pm #546613

yes that's it
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Re: remove boxstation from the map rotation

Postby cacogen » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:05 pm #546718

that's easy and not an obstacle to keeping the map at all at least until someone adds another feature like plumbing that needs an xbox hueg room no one wants to add because it becomes a pus lump sticking out the side of the station

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