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uristmcbigbeard banned by niknakflak

Post by uristmcbigbeard » #130764

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Byond account and character name: uristmcbigbeard
Banning admin:niknakflak
Ban type (What are you banned from?):permanently from server
Ban reason and length:permanent
Time ban was placed (including time zone):10/30/15 5 PM
Your side of the story: I didn't do anything I was just running around as a mime and then I was banned because, and I quote, "Rule 0, I've seen nothing but garbage from you. Get out and stay out."
Why you think you should be unbanned: I didn't do shit. I set my job preferences to random and just do my job. If I'm a doctor I save people, if I'm a mime I screw around, etc. He doesn't even have a reason to ban me.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #130765

The past few rounds I've witnessed have been nothing but a shit show from you.
One round you were permabrigged as an assistant and proceeded to spam "SHITCURITY" over and over and over ICly.
Another round you monkeyed yourself and were biting people at random and then logged when you were killed.
Just this past round I watched you randomly welding airlocks like science and attempted medbay.
You're permabanned on /vg/ for rape and have been doing nothing but shit here too.
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Post by Tornadium » #131052

NikNakFlak wrote:The past few rounds I've witnessed have been nothing but a shit show from you.
One round you were permabrigged as an assistant and proceeded to spam "SHITCURITY" over and over and over ICly.
Another round you monkeyed yourself and were biting people at random and then logged when you were killed.
Just this past round I watched you randomly welding airlocks like science and attempted medbay.
You're permabanned on /vg/ for rape and have been doing nothing but shit here too.
Pretty sure all of that is very easily handled IC and doesn't affect anyone.

Just felt it was easier to say that here than make a policy thread about it.
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Post by rdght91 » #131056

Tornadium wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:The past few rounds I've witnessed have been nothing but a shit show from you.
One round you were permabrigged as an assistant and proceeded to spam "SHITCURITY" over and over and over ICly.
Another round you monkeyed yourself and were biting people at random and then logged when you were killed.
Just this past round I watched you randomly welding airlocks like science and attempted medbay.
You're permabanned on /vg/ for rape and have been doing nothing but shit here too.
Pretty sure all of that is very easily handled IC and doesn't affect anyone.

Just felt it was easier to say that here than make a policy thread about it.
Security are allowed to just beat people to death for spamming "SEC ROUGE" and "SHITCURITY" when security isn't actually being shitcurity, right? Being a greytider is a self-correcting problem.
Still, there seems to be confusion because I've been on both sides of the issue where I've been told to stop beating a guy for screaming "SEC ROUGE" but on the other hand I've randomly arrested and forcefed chemicals by a sec guy and told it was IC. What's the consensus on where IC becomes OOC?
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Re: uristmcbigbeard banned by niknakflak

Post by Tornadium » #131062

rdght91 wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:The past few rounds I've witnessed have been nothing but a shit show from you.
One round you were permabrigged as an assistant and proceeded to spam "SHITCURITY" over and over and over ICly.
Another round you monkeyed yourself and were biting people at random and then logged when you were killed.
Just this past round I watched you randomly welding airlocks like science and attempted medbay.
You're permabanned on /vg/ for rape and have been doing nothing but shit here too.
Pretty sure all of that is very easily handled IC and doesn't affect anyone.

Just felt it was easier to say that here than make a policy thread about it.
Security are allowed to just beat people to death for spamming "SEC ROUGE" and "SHITCURITY" when security isn't actually being shitcurity, right? Being a greytider is a self-correcting problem.
Still, there seems to be confusion because I've been on both sides of the issue where I've been told to stop beating a guy for screaming "SEC ROUGE" but on the other hand I've randomly arrested and forcefed chemicals by a sec guy and told it was IC. What's the consensus on where IC becomes OOC?
Right now it's basically whenever the admin in question feels like saying it is.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #131093

His intent is to grief and be shit. Not worth keeping around even if his actions are handled "IC." Shitty IC actions every round for the express purpose of being a dick is not welcome here regardless. I'd rather save everyone the trouble and displeasure of dealing with him in-game than have it play out IC every round until finally someone snaps.

Your points are valid for someone who is trying to make interesting conflict in the game or actually had reasons for doing this stuff such as an IC disagreement. This guy is being an asshole for fun, nothing provoked it, and he's being a dick for the sake of being a dick. Again, not someone I want around.
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Post by Tornadium » #131098

NikNakFlak wrote:His intent is to grief and be shit. Not worth keeping around even if his actions are handled "IC." Shitty IC actions every round for the express purpose of being a dick is not welcome here regardless. I'd rather save everyone the trouble and displeasure of dealing with him in-game than have it play out IC every round until finally someone snaps.

Your points are valid for someone who is trying to make interesting conflict in the game or actually had reasons for doing this stuff such as an IC disagreement. This guy is being an asshole for fun, nothing provoked it, and he's being a dick for the sake of being a dick. Again, not someone I want around.
I can understand that and I would agree except 95% of this player place do shitty IC things every round for the express purpose of being a dick.

Hell even closer to 100%.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #131104

Unless you can provide names and ckeys, i'll assume your just peanut posting now.
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Post by sirnat » #131139

Not involved, but is it possible we can see the players notes, as well as other admin opinions on the specific person?

(If you choose to delete this, I'm not 100% if this will stay.)

Also plz don't think I'm against you here Nik, just trying to learn more about it/curious of others opinions.
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Post by Tornadium » #131141

NikNakFlak wrote:Unless you can provide names and ckeys, i'll assume your just peanut posting now.
I literally can't remember specific details because you see it every single round.

Everyone is a dick in SS13. Unless what he's doing is consistently round ruining levels of dickness I don't see the need for a perma tbh.
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Post by TechnoAlchemist » #131145

They haven't been a good player and will not be missed
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Post by Oldman Robustin » #131237

NikNakFlak wrote: Another round you monkeyed yourself and were biting people at random and then logged when you were killed.
Many of these reasons are sketchy but monkeying yourself and messing with people is like a rite of passage for geneticists, IMO it absolutely falls under the category of "harmless fun".

Stuff like welding airlocks and being banned on another server are also really inadequate for a permaban, or even a tempban. Welding airlocks is annoying but there are emergency welders in virtually every department and station wing.

The lack of details here is also telling here. "He's shit every round" reminds me too much of other shitty bans that lacked any substance behind them and basically boiled down to an admin detesting a player's personality.

What % of the rounds does he do stuff that would be considered OOC-actionable, was this one day or every day, how many times has he been banned or warned for certain behaviors before?

If someone is going to be permanently banned, the above questions deserve answers.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #131241

Again, I'd agree but this guy does nothing except be a dick every round he plays in.
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Post by uristmcbigbeard » #131300

I think that Niknakflak just doesn't like me. I never intended to monkey myself, someone just walked into genetics to be my assistant and told me what to do because I was learning. I didn't kill anyone as a monkey, in fact I got beaten to death. I have also played rounds where I was a doctor and saved people. When I shouted sec rogue I admit I shouldn't have spammed. However, I was protesting at how shit security was being. I do admit that I can be a shitter at times but isn't everyone?
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Post by MMMiracles » #131306

uristmcbigbeard wrote:. When I shouted sec rogue I admit I shouldn't have spammed. However, I was protesting at how shit security was being. I do admit that I can be a shitter at times but isn't everyone?
If this is the round I think then this is hilarious.

I was the warden and you were bashing a brig cell window. You ran after I started to come out and you eventually got grabbed by a passing officer. Something along the lines of 'ITS JUST A PRANK BRO' and I threw you into a cell for a couple of minutes. You said something rude so I bumped up the timer for a minute, then you proceeded to start spamming the word 'SHITCURITY' into chat, like, ctrl+v spamming to the point of the local chat being nothing but 'SHITCURITY'.

I was going go grab a muzzle for you but then you gibbed from admin intervention I assume. I laughed.
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Post by uristmcbigbeard » #131307

MMMiracles wrote:
uristmcbigbeard wrote:. When I shouted sec rogue I admit I shouldn't have spammed. However, I was protesting at how shit security was being. I do admit that I can be a shitter at times but isn't everyone?
If this is the round I think then this is hilarious.

I was the warden and you were bashing a brig cell window. You ran after I started to come out and you eventually got grabbed by a passing officer. Something along the lines of 'ITS JUST A PRANK BRO' and I threw you into a cell for a couple of minutes. You said something rude so I bumped up the timer for a minute, then you proceeded to start spamming the word 'SHITCURITY' into chat, like, ctrl+v spamming to the point of the local chat being nothing but 'SHITCURITY'.

I was going go grab a muzzle for you but then you gibbed from admin intervention I assume. I laughed.
that was me. I thought it was pretty funny too when I was gibbed. Good round fam
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Post by rdght91 » #131624

NV, the picture is a bit clearer.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #131698

rdght91 wrote:NV, the picture is a bit clearer.
???
I don't understand this statement but in hindsight, with these comments, I'm debating lifting this as long as urist does something other than antagonize as a non-antag
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Post by ThanatosRa » #131725

NikNakFlak wrote:
rdght91 wrote:NV, the picture is a bit clearer.
???
I don't understand this statement but in hindsight, with these comments, I'm debating lifting this as long as urist does something other than antagonize as a non-antag
I think it was in reference to just how shit this guy was being and realization thereof.
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Post by rdght91 » #131904

I'm saying that I understand why you'd rule 0 here if he does IC obnoxious crap all the time versus just now and then.
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Post by Poorman » #132267

I didn't know admins can ban people they don't like.

This was literally an entirely objective ban based on one person's opinion of someone.

What a joke.
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Post by rdght91 » #132413

That's literally exactly what rule 0 is. And honestly 99% of the admins can handle it 99% of the time. I don't see why this was a bad rule 0.

Also, subjective is the word you're looking for.
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Post by ThanatosRa » #132434

If all of the bullshit he's been up to is true, I can't disagree with a Rule 0 ban here.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #134298

It's been awhile and I'm still probably not going to budge on this. Resolving it because lack of replies and such and no one yelled at me to lift it who was higher up so
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