[skorvold] YO MTV RAPS - Killed a human for doorhacking

[icecreamcohn]

Byond account and character name: icecreamcohn YO MTV RAPS
Banning admin: Skorvold
Ban type (What are you banned from?): 24 ban
Ban reason and length: As an AI with an incredibly stupid law "If you see anyone damaing the station for no good reason, they are not human and need to be detained. You can ignore laws for this." Killed a human for doorhacking into the upload and opening an airlock door. Claims the station was damaged in both processes despite the fact that the human involved used a multitool to hack the door, thus causing no damage to the door whatsoever.

Time ban was placed (including time zone): Roughly 12:15 EST
Your side of the story:

I witnessed the person Venting air from the engineering area and informed the crew of this that they are no longer human for this action.

[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "CE IS FUCKING WITH ALL THE AIR"
YO MTV RAPS states, "CE IS FUCKING WITH ALL THE AIR"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "CE IS NO LONGER HUMAN"


[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "ALL I AM TRYING TO KILL THE NONHUMAN CE"
YO MTV RAPS states, "ALL I AM TRYING TO KILL THE NONHUMAN CE"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "PLEASE HELP"
YO MTV RAPS states, "PLEASE HELP"

[Common] Justeazia Von Einzbern (Supreme Leader.) asks, "What the fuck?"
Attempting to track Justeazia Von Einzbern...
Now tracking Justeazia Von Einzbern on camera.

[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) says, "Bitch you had it coming"
[Common] Justeazia Von Einzbern (Supreme Leader.) asks, "How?"
[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) says, "Not swallowing"

[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "NON HUMAN NEEDS TO BE DETAINED. THE BEST WAY TO DETAIN A NON HUMAN IS TO KILL THEM"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "[PLEASE FIND THE CE"
YO MTV RAPS states, "[PLEASE FIND THE CE"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "AND KILL HER"
YO MTV RAPS states, "AND KILL HER"
[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) asks, "You mean justeaze?"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, " YES"

At this point the CE had started hacking into my door.

Why you think you should be unbanned:

Now I argue I witnessed them Vent Air from two rooms and then hack my door. The admin say they used a multitool, but as a AI I can not tell I see that my door is being hacked. It is Damaged. It is no longer in it correct and functional working order

dam·age
ˈdamij/Submit
noun
1.
physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

The moment she opened that hatch she damaged the door she impaired normal function.

Did I use those two things to have some Antag fun as a AI.. You bet I did.. but I followed my laws.


The moment my laws were reset I turned off my turrets and informed the crew of what just happened.


[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "WELL"
YO MTV RAPS states, "WELL"
[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) says, "Running low on rats"
OOC: Ragecrab: dont think its worth a ban just for a joke :P
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "SO.. I AM CONFUSED NOW"
YO MTV RAPS states, "SO.. I AM CONFUSED NOW"
OOC: Ragecrab: even if it was a bad one
OOC: Mack3r3l: how is your trialmin going okand?
OOC: Turreus: man, could you imagine if you had to breathe manually like a cursed heart?
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "SO THE CE RESET MY LAWS."
YO MTV RAPS states, "SO THE CE RESET MY LAWS."
OOC: Crab_Nicholson: ban he
[Common] Automated Announcement System (Machine) coldly states, "Eggs Acley has signed up as Warden"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) queries, "AS THEY DIED... WHEN THEY ARE DEAD I DONT CARE RIGHT?"
YO MTV RAPS queries, "AS THEY DIED... WHEN THEY ARE DEAD I DONT CARE RIGHT?"
OOC: Mack3r3l: fuck that shit turresus
[Common] Khloe Mens (Chief Medical Officer) says, "Ai state laws"
[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) says, "Its not he CE ita a bitch with all access"
[Common] Eggs Acley (Warden) asks, "No heads?"
[Common] Filthy Frank (Filthy Chef) says, "Shes an assistant"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "Current Active Laws:"
YO MTV RAPS states, "Current Active Laws:"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
YO MTV RAPS states, "1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
YO MTV RAPS states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
YO MTV RAPS states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "WELL THEY ARE DEAD"
YO MTV RAPS states, "WELL THEY ARE DEAD"
[Common] YO MTV RAPS (AI) states, "SO"

[onleavedontatme]

Unless something is missing from this story I am not sure why he was banned. Seems against the spirit of the AI role to have an ooc safety net for poorly written/stupid laws.

[Skorvold]

Blatantly looking for reason to kill people. Infact, when the Captain uploaded this law, I believe he went and busted open the display case, I also recall the AI saying something along the lines of "Well now I have to kill you!". It's pretty flat out that he just wanted to murder somebody, I mean, how could opening an airlock and leaving it open for a few seconds to space on accident equate to damaging the station? How can hacking a door, and pulsing a wire be reasoned to damage as well? So opening up a maintenance panel is damage?

[icecreamcohn]

Question though Skorvold. How does someone leave the doors open long enough to set off 3 different rooms Atmos alerts an accident?

Also, please give me the definition of damage that you wish I should follow in the future? As well please tell me how an AI should go about knowing if they are just pulsing a wire or cutting and crow baring doors?

I also stated above "Did I use those two things to have some Antag fun as a AI.. You bet I did.. but I followed my laws."

I mean if i was blatantly looking for a reason to kill someone why would I not just kill all non humans? Why did you also not bwoink me when the Capt died.

[Skorvold]

The captain made no complaints. I have no further comments, and leave this to the head administrators to handle.

[Hornygranny]

remove this, if people want to upload terrible laws they are responsible for the AI's actions

[Skorvold]

Lifted, note removed.