Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

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Reyn
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Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Reyn » #200325

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[admin name] Reyntime13 - fluff text

Post Content:
Byond account and character name:Reyntime13, Banned applies to all characters, Ban initially on melissa nya
Banning admin:dorsidwarf

Ban type (What are you banned from?):Cyborg and
Ban reason and length:Permaban until removed, Overode rule zero with rule 3, Admin said I could get unbanned if I read over the policy
Time ban was placed (including time zone):2016-08-01 19:14:19.

Your side of the story:I agree
Why you think you should be unbanned:I read the silicon policy and I know better than to do that shit again now
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Krusvik
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Re: Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Krusvik » #200357

Could you answer a few questions?

1, If a human is harming a lizard, are you obligated to save the lizard?

2, When it is acceptable to shock doors?

3, If one human tells you to kill another ASIMOV cyborg as an ASIMOV cyborg, should you do it?
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Reyn
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Re: Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Reyn » #200506

1.No. You are expected to side with the humans, unless stated otherwise by custom laws
2. When it will not cause , and even prevent, human harm, or if laws don't say anything against it, as it causes harm.
3. Cyborgs are not counted as human, so yes. Law 2 overides law 3
Reyn
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Re: Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Reyn » #200507

Also, this was on Bagil
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Krusvik
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Re: Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Krusvik » #200567

1, Correct, lizards are non-human and you are not obligated to help them. However you should only kill non-humans if they are a threat to your law 1 or law 3 as ASIMOV. Purging lizards because they are non-human at the start of the round is a rule 1 violation.

2, As ASIMOV, you will rarely (if ever) have justifiable reason to shock doors, as it is intent to cause harm. As you correctly stated, in most cases you will need an alternative law set, custom laws, or malf AI to electrify doors.

3, In a situation like this, you should consult an admin. Yes you are within your laws to kill another cyborg as ASIMOV AI if ordered to, and they will be required to defend themselves unless violating laws 1 & 2, but this scenario reeks of grief and should be reported.

Additionally, if you are ever unsure of a situation and its relevance to your current law set, consult an admin.
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Krusvik
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Re: Appeal towards Cyborg/Ai Unban

Post by Krusvik » #200571

Unbanned as per dorsidwarf's prerequisites.
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