Security Job Ban by sylphet

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Security Job Ban by sylphet

Post by Nicolas_911 » #580079

BYOND account:Nicolas_911
Character name: Iain McCallum
Ban type: Repeated rule 11 breaks, poor conduct as security. JOB BAN
Ban length:I have no clue, came here to figure out
Ban reason:Repeated rule 11 breaks, poor conduct as security.
Time ban was placed:2020-10-25 01:53:48 | Manuel | Sylphet
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed:Yea, i realy do not know wheres that, all i got is time
Your side of the story: I was not aware that i was playing manuel, I thought i was in Sybil doing my regular HoS shit, I know that ignorance is not an excuse, but i allways play with the wiki on the 2d monitor and when the admin told "you know whats Rule 11 is?" I had no awser, prob thought i was another retard that did not read the rules. But i HAVE read the rule, i thought i was in sybil where the rules only go to 10. I was not more EXTRA weary as Sec as i would usualy in a RP round. I shoved a dude in a whellchair trying to push him around, in wich he beated me up with an water cannister, and started running, i even used the HoS swat mask that screamed "GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY" and proceded to drag him to brig to patch him up and give him 5 minutes, due to him calling me a fag or som i locked him up in a locker and got my gear (i just entered the round) while i was going back to him (WITH A FUCKING DONUT) i was banned.
Why you think you should be unbanned:I belive i fucked up, but being banned forever to play my fav role is a little too much, considering i am aware of my fuck ups and now can proceed to be a better player
References of good conduct: I am trying to learn to play sec, i am a paranoic fuck what made me a little trigger happy, but that was in sybil or basil where nobody realy gives a fuck and is necessary for survival expecialy as HoS/Cap/Warden. I know how to be a chill sec officer i just need another chanse to prove myself, in manuel expecialy (coincidentally where i got all my others warnings for bad conduct)
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Re: Security Job Ban by sylphet

Post by Sylphet » #580094

BYOND account:Nicolas_911
Character name: Iain McCallum
Ban type: Repeated rule 11 breaks, poor conduct as security. JOB BAN
Ban length:I have no clue, came here to figure out
Ban reason:Repeated rule 11 breaks, poor conduct as security.
Time ban was placed:2020-10-25 01:53:48 | Manuel | Sylphet
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed:Yea, i realy do not know wheres that, all i got is time
There are two bans here, a one day server ban for repeated rule 11 violations, and a two week security ban for repeated poor conduct as security.
This ban was placed on Manuel in 149019. https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/149019
I was not aware that i was playing manuel, I thought i was in Sybil doing my regular HoS shit, I know that ignorance is not an excuse, but i allways play with the wiki on the 2d monitor and when the admin told "you know whats Rule 11 is?" I had no awser, prob thought i was another retard that did not read the rules. But i HAVE read the rule, i thought i was in sybil where the rules only go to 10.
Rule 11 is a global rule, it applies to all TG servers, including Bagil, Sybil, Terry, and Manuel. There are 11 rules, not 10. Like you said, ignorance is not an excuse.

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So - there are two bans here. The one day server ban, for rule 11. We're going to start with that, even though it's already expired, so that you know my reasoning.
11. Bigotry is not allowed.
Intentionally seeking to demean others due to their actual or perceived race, sex, gender, orientation or the like is not tolerated.
It is not our goal to create or enforce a list of banned words and instead our goal to eject bigotry from the community. Enforcement will be less PC based and more common sense based with that goal in mind.
The above rule applies to ALL OOC bigotry, even when expressed in IC. There is no racism in 2560, just species-ism, There is no homophobia, just xenophiliapobia, etc.
Admins are encouraged to use rule 1 to deal with instances where """IC""" bigotry is excessive or designed as a mask for ooc bigotry.
You have been warned for rule 11 breaks before, on Sybil. So I really don't believe you when you say that you didn't know that rule 11 applies there, when it was explained to you by other admins. The day ban was placed because this is a repeated problem. Specifically, what made me feel that a day ban was justified here is your talking about recreating a nazi death camp IC, combined with your poor note history.
Spoiler:
[2020-10-25 01:21:50.801] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "hey warden" (Fore Primary Hallway (108,160,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:03.630] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "wanna make aswchvits" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:07.339] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "like" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:14.453] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "we stalk and" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:22.370] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "All scaelys" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:26.166] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "lizards" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:31.299] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "cat people" (Brig (110,163,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:39.135] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "and gas they up" (Brig (110,163,2))

[2020-10-25 01:26:17.069] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "new home nigga" (Prison Wing (85,185,2))
[2020-10-25 01:26:23.456] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "welcome to the hood" (Prison Wing (89,183,2))

[2020-10-25 01:41:47.314] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "you talking to a HoS bitch" (Brig (102,165,2))
[2020-10-25 01:41:55.097] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "not a fag ass CMO" (Brig (102,165,2))

[2020-10-25 01:42:19.736] SAY: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) "Do we trial this retard" (Brig (101,165,2))
Unfortunately, I can't ignore this as only a joke in terrible taste because your prior note for rule 11 was for naming the station « Cotton Plantation 1619 » which specifically refers to the year when the first slaves arrived in the United States, and you made several other racist comments that shift. Like rule 11 says, the purpose of the rule is to eject bigotry from the community, and I feel very strongly that your actions come from a place of bigotry, and that is something that we do not want or allow on our servers. If you want to avoid further rule 11 problems, you need to understand that the rule applies to all TG servers, not just Manuel, and avoid expressing this kind of thing IC.

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Next up is the two week security ban. I feel that this is justified because you have two prior notes for poor conduct as security, one for murdering an arrested assistant, and another for murdering a Research Director for being in the brig, where they have access. Combined with your behaviour in 149019, where I placed the two week ban - When you unbuckled a crippled player, who hit you twice with a fire extinguisher for taking their wheelchair. You immediately start firing lethal lasers at them in the hall. When you ran out, you switched to disablers. You then removed their headset, took them to the brig, flashed them, and then locked them into a security locker while they were cuffed.
Spoiler:
[2020-10-25 01:22:57.776] ATTACK: TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) has attacked Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 95.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (106,160,2))
[2020-10-25 01:22:58.975] ATTACK: TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) has attacked Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 89.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (106,158,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:06.807] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Central Primary Hallway (Central Primary Hallway (109,145,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:07.460] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Central Primary Hallway (Central Primary Hallway (111,145,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:08.244] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the laser from Central Primary Hallway (Central Primary Hallway (113,145,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:19.746] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (140,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:20.115] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (141,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:20.335] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (142,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:21.059] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (142,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:21.280] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (142,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:22.211] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (141,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:22.279] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (141,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:22.865] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:22.940] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:23.471] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (138,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:23.569] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (137,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:24.049] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (138,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:24.135] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (138,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:24.651] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:24.653] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,139,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:25.708] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:25.792] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:26.337] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:26.441] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:27.016] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:27.112] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:27.744] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:27.830] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:28.293] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:28.355] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:28.786] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has fired at [reinforced wall] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:28.964] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shot TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,138,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:34.519] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has handcuffed TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,138,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:36.814] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has grabbed TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (139,138,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:42.462] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has grabbed TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (131,138,2))
[2020-10-25 01:23:56.607] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has grabbed TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (128,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:24:07.326] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has stripped the radio headset off TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (128,137,2))
[2020-10-25 01:24:36.807] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has grabbed TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (122,143,2))
[2020-10-25 01:25:24.951] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has flashed(targeted) Lacran/(Mary Megablade) with the flash (NEWHP: 95.5) (Brig (108,169,2))
[2020-10-25 01:26:33.455] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has flashed(targeted) TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Prison Wing (101,184,2))
[2020-10-25 01:26:37.578] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has shoved TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) (NEWHP: 100) (Prison Wing (100,184,2))
[2020-10-25 01:26:39.462] ATTACK: Nicolas_911/(Ian McCollum) has flashed(targeted) TheDuffelbag/(Rhials Duffy) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Prison Wing (101,184,2))
I am trying to learn to play sec.
Head of Security requires a strong understanding of escalation and restraint, which you don't seem to have. This is not a good job for a player new to the role.
I know how to be a chill sec officer i just need another chanse to prove myself, in manuel expecialy (coincidentally where i got all my others warnings for bad conduct)
Your actions on this shift were very not chill, and your other warnings for bad conduct are from Sybil and Terry, so this is entirely untrue.

Since you're a newer player, however, I'm willing to adjust the ban to be only five days from security officer, but still the full two weeks from warden and headsec, including time that's passed. That means that you'll get sec officer back on 30 October and warden / headsec back on 8 November. I feel like this gives you the chance to prove yourself as a chill sec officer that you want, and will help you stay out of further trouble in command roles for the time being. Is this acceptable to you ?
Tell me how much you think that I should be thrown out of the nearest airlock !
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 37&t=27175
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Re: Security Job Ban by sylphet

Post by Nicolas_911 » #580162

Understood. Ill try to play regular Sec Officer before Warden then HoS. Its very reasonable the sec ban, I was just complaining thinking it was a perma ban.
I appreciate your time, ill try to cause less trouble on the server mate, see ya.
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Re: Security Job Ban by sylphet

Post by Sylphet » #580183

Okay. The ban from the sec officer role is reduced to expire on 30 October. Be good, please.
Tell me how much you think that I should be thrown out of the nearest airlock !
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 37&t=27175
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