Character Name: Josh Meyers
Ban type: Note
Ban length: N/A
Round Number: 183740
Time ban was placed: 2022-05-25 02:10:27
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Your side of the story:
I caught a heretic in the brig, they were wearing one of those eyeball amulets, I stunbaton them to check their bag and it's full of heretic knives. After cuffing them I drag them to perma, but perma has been trashed and the power is all off. I then kill them, lop off their head with an axe and drop it off at robotics. This, apparently, is a problem.
The note in question:
Admin contacts me. I explain why I killed the antagonist. Response:Has a consistent pattern of toeing rule 12 by constant validhunting as security while almost never talking. Has a huge amount of notes for abuse of security, and is on thin ice. Was talked to and told if they continued this behavior it would likely result in a large ban, hold them to it.
*the corpse was beheaded so I could drop the head off at robotics as mentioned above.Admin PM from-CoffeeDragon16: Right, but they were unarmed, cuffed, and in perma, and you beheaded their corpse*, it's just incredibly dickish to do that when they're already a non-threat
I explain that perma was trashed and the power was off making its already limited ability to hold someone securely even worse. But that wasn't enough. What should I have done instead?
for the love of god just build a grille or something next time or get an engineer there
you literally could have just gone to the sec lathe and grabbed some iron and built a wall or two
I should have instead "built a wall or two" or "just build a grille or something" and leave the heretic, an antag whose advancement is focused on killing people, alive in the unpowered brig now presumably sufficiently secured by a grille or something or a wall or two.
This is after I remind the admin that heretics have access to teleport, the response is that I should apparently have waited for them to escape from custody by teleporting away.Admin PM from-CoffeeDragon16: actually that's fair i forgot something about how biddle heretics work- though, if you didn't see them use the spell i'm going to say that's not a good reason
Why you think you should be unbanned: I killed a confirmed antagonist.
Using the faculty of sight to see someone is wearing a heretic necklace is not "validhunting". Stunning said person and finding heretic knives in their backpack is not "validhunting". The admin's complaints weren't even about "validhunting" but about how the antagonist was killed and borged which makes the note make even less sense.
Again, after seeing someone who was almost certainly a heretic, and then checking to be absolutely certain they were a heretic, and then instead of just killing them outright taking them to perma and then when perma proves to be insecure killing them and taking their head to robotics to be borged is not "validhunting".