[Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

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Ridik774
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[Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

Post by Ridik774 » #719463

Ban Details
BYOND account: Buba137
Character name: Wyatt Perkins
Ban type: Server ban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.
Time ban was placed: 27.01.24, 14:59 UTC
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 222886

Is the reason/note factually accurate and fair?: No

If no, please provide more details: I'll start my story with a backstory. After the arrival of the shuttle, I got to the bridge, after takeoff, almost upon arrival at Cent Come, someone walled us up with RCD. With the help of mach, I knocked out the wall, after which a certain man named Wilhelm Von Clausewitz began to say "mech bad" for no reason. Half a second later, he started hitting my mech with a toolbox. I tried to just walk away, but he kept doing it, after which I started to defend myself. Some people sided with him and started beating up mech too. I also continued to defend myself.
Supporting logs:https://imgur.com/a/uFkpHDs
Game.txt:https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... 1/game.txt
Attack.txt:https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... attack.txt
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Re: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

Post by GPeckman » #719472

Here's a slightly more detailed summary of the logs. Here are all the instances of the durand attacking a wall/rwall, with timestamps:

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[2024-01-27 12:22:15.097] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) attacked [wall] with the �Durand (COMBAT MODE: 1 (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Emergency Shuttle (111,48,2))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.183] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.382] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.585] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:52.102] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) attacked [reinforced wall] with the �Durand (COMBAT MODE: 1 (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Emergency Shuttle (128,157,13))
The first instance of the durand attacking a person happened during the rwall attacks:

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[2024-01-27 12:23:50.180] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) shot Likteer/(General Goldenbar III Esquire) with the bullet from inside the �Durand (NEWHP: 100)  (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.183] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.380] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) shot Likteer/(General Goldenbar III Esquire) with the bullet from inside the �Durand (NEWHP: 70)  (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.382] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.582] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) shot Likteer/(General Goldenbar III Esquire) with the bullet from inside the �Durand (NEWHP: 40)  (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.585] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) fired the bullet at [reinforced wall] with the �Ultra AC 2 from the �Durand at Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:50.783] ATTACK: [�Durand] () Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) fired the �Ultra AC 2, targeting the reinforced wall. (Emergency Shuttle (128,156,13))
[2024-01-27 12:23:52.102] ATTACK: Buba137/(Wyatt Perkins) (mob_3825) attacked [reinforced wall] with the �Durand (COMBAT MODE: 1 (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (Emergency Shuttle (128,157,13))
If I recall correctly, the newhp part of the logs is bugged right now and actually displays the HP of the target before the attack. So the General Goldenbar guy would probably be almost in crit at this point.

It is also worth noting that this occurred about 30 seconds before Wilhelm said "mech bad":

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[2024-01-27 12:24:25.465] GAME-SAY: StarrmanN/(Wilhelm Von Clausewitz) (mob_3779) "mech bad" (Emergency Shuttle (127,154,13))
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Re: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

Post by Justice12354 » #719480

Hey.

Unfortunately, I was unable to get in touch with you when applying the ban since I only got to the ticket a few rounds later and I could not find you on the Discord Server.

Thanks for giving your version of the story, but it seems GPeckman's observation does not match what you said.

I would like to add that you lethally attacked the following (13) players: General Goldenbar III Esquire, KFC Console, Thomas Green, Tabby Du Bois, Maximus Black, Abdul Al Qanim, Noel Aultman, a sentient orange adult slime (144), S.U.S., Wilhelm Von Clausewitz, Brady Edwards, Melanie Woodworth, Troubadix Morris.
Out of these, only the following 5 engaged in any sort of combat against you: Wilhelm Von Clausewitz, Maximus Black, Abdul Al Qanim, Noel Aultman, and S.U.S.

The data I collected does not account for those you shot at while targeting the floor, except for Wilhelm Von Clausewitz.

After carefully reading the logs, I've gathered the following: you attacked General Goldenbar III Esquire, Wilhelm reacted by saying "mech bad" and started toolboxing your mech. After which, you started attacking multiple players on the shuttle, and only some of which attacked you as well.

Could you explain why you attacked General Goldenbar III Esquire, and also why you attacked multiple other players, the majority of which didn't even attack you whatsoever? Is there anything we're missing?
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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Re: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

Post by k4rl » #719714

From the POV of the lawyer who has also helped in taking your mech down, it seemed like you were purposefully attacking people

you were not making any attempt to stop and speak, all you were doing was constantly shoot and attack people from the moment you got on the shuttle

due to a gygax attacking medbay earlier, we easily assumed you were bad since you started shooting as soon as you got on
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please do not include commentary about the ban ("peanutting") if you're not the person appealing or the responding admin. pertinent information about what you saw and what happened from your pov is fine and helpful. i have removed the peanut parts of this post. there is a player's club thread about this ban if you'd like to give more open commentary and speak your mind about what happened. - dendydoom
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Re: [Justice12354] Wyatt Perkins Low playtime account murderboning on the shuttle in a Mech for apparently no reason.

Post by Justice12354 » #719957

Well, I've already pinged you over Discord regarding this ticket 2 days ago, over which I got no reply.

Given you haven't replied in the last 5 days and I do not see a motive to unban you, I will be locking this on the 5th.
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yttriums wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
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