[BeeSting12] juanototo2 -- "How do you do, fellow kids?"

[juanototo2]

BYOND account and character name: juanototo2/Francisco Luque
Banning admin: BeeSting12
Ban reason and length: 2017-10-24 00:11:05 | Bagil | beesting12
Banned from OOC - After being banned for this previously, continued talking about another player's ERP logs and other shit in OOC. Don't stalk people.
Time ban was placed (including time zone) 2017-10-24 00:11:05, don't know the timezone on the servers
Server you were playing on when banned: Bagil
Your side of the story: OOC's normally a pretty rowdy place, but I got a little two rowdy by discussing a little bit of up-to-date lizard drama (some lizard having a f-list) from singulo, 'cause I wanted something for OOC to talk about. Turns out, I get banned for it. Not that bad, but then again, this is Bee, who I'm not exactly on good terms with. Don't think many people were really that offended about it. 'Sides, Singulo's a deserted place anyway, so even if I wanted to talk about it there, precisely dick would respond.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Want to do passive agressive memeing around in deadchat again. Promise not to do this kind of crossing the line drama speech again, thanks.

[BeeSting12]

Unless someone else would like to overrule, denied. The fact that I'm "not on good terms with you" is irrelevant to this ban. Talking about other players' personal lives such as their f-list is creepy as hell and stalkery. Keep what happens on singulo in singulo and out of OOC. I probably would've warned/muted you if not for the fact that you got banned for the exact same thing less than two weeks ago, with the exact same player I'm speaking of.

[Cobby]

I'm not sure what was said and I'm too lazy to look but given that the forums directly link to singulo it does seem a bit unfair for admins to imply the division between tg and singulo is completely absolute.

[captain sawrge]

I banned you for the literal exact same reason like three weeks ago why would you do it agaun

[onleavedontatme]

it does seem a bit unfair for admins to imply the division between tg and singulo is completely absolute.

There is an entire pornography section on singulo and terbs posts pictures of his dick there as well, doesn't mean you can do any of those things in OOC

And yeah he got explicitly told not to do this by another admin already within the last couple weeks so I'm not sure why you're bringing up possible rule confusion

[Cobby]

it does seem a bit unfair for admins to imply the division between tg and singulo is completely absolute.

There is an entire pornography section on singulo and terbs posts pictures of his dick there as well, doesn't mean you can do any of those things in OOC

And yeah he got explicitly told not to do this by another admin already within the last couple weeks so I'm not sure why you're bringing up possible rule confusion

I was mainly saying that for viewers at home, as I don't want them to think they have to double check mediums of the community before bringing X up in lighthearted ooc conversations because X was said/shown in singulo but not say the forums.

I do not have an opinion on the ban itself, but I feel like that clarification for others (like say robustin who will directly quote rulings from other appeals) was necessary

[iamgoofball]

did they post the f-list under their character's name

asking for a friend

[onleavedontatme]

it does seem a bit unfair for admins to imply the division between tg and singulo is completely absolute.

There is an entire pornography section on singulo and terbs posts pictures of his dick there as well, doesn't mean you can do any of those things in OOC

And yeah he got explicitly told not to do this by another admin already within the last couple weeks so I'm not sure why you're bringing up possible rule confusion

I was mainly saying that for viewers at home, as I don't want them to think they have to double check mediums of the community before bringing X up in lighthearted ooc conversations because X was said/shown in singulo but not say the forums.

I do not have an opinion on the ban itself, but I feel like that clarification for others (like say robustin who will directly quote rulings from other appeals) was necessary

Fair enough

did they post the f-list under their character's name

asking for a friend

How difficult or not outside outside information was to find sounds like an ugly area to get into rules wise, easier to just say "don't drag peoples outside lives into OOC for laughs" as a blanket rule.

[BeeSting12]

I'm not sure what was said and I'm too lazy to look but given that the forums directly link to singulo it does seem a bit unfair for admins to imply the division between tg and singulo is completely absolute.

I don't care if people talk about stuff from singulo but some of the stuff on there shouldn't be talked on the game servers IMO. Such as stalking another player and then talking about their ERP logs/f-list in OOC to stir shit. Nobody had brought up the subject and noone was responding to him, he was just doing it in an attempt to cause drama. (and it didn't even work)

I can pull logs when I get home if you want.

[Cobby]

Its fine, I was just <last message from me>

[Yakumo_Chen]

I would be pretty angry if someone went out and dug up my personal life the posted it in a game away from said personal life for everyone to see, laugh at, and make an example out of me for.

It's like the online equivalent of dox. People aren't playing ss13 to be judged on their life by a community of assholes

[captain sawrge]

I would be pretty angry if someone went out and dug up my personal life the posted it in a game away from said personal life for everyone to see, laugh at, and make an example out of me for.

It's like the online equivalent of dox. People aren't playing ss13 to be judged on their life by a community of assholes

We offer a lot of slack with regards to just straight up being a fucking asshole to your fellow players in OOC because 90% of our rules and policies refer specifically to ingame stuff but this pretty much sums my thoughts up on it.

It's insanely shitty, purely malicious garbage. Another player banned for the same thing straight up told me he was trying to shame people off the server. It's fucking nonsense and I'm sick of seeing it.

Don't try to internet detective/e-stalk/dox other players. Don't go around googling their porn accounts or their insane fetish commissions or their ERP profiles so you can parade them in OOC to shame them or whatever.

It's being a dick. It's against the rules. OP and every other funnyguy highschool redditor needs to fuck off and cut this shit out.

[cedarbridge]

I would be pretty angry if someone went out and dug up my personal life the posted it in a game away from said personal life for everyone to see, laugh at, and make an example out of me for.

It's like the online equivalent of dox. People aren't playing ss13 to be judged on their life by a community of assholes

We offer a lot of slack with regards to just straight up being a fucking asshole to your fellow players in OOC because 90% of our rules and policies refer specifically to ingame stuff but this pretty much sums my thoughts up on it.

It's insanely shitty, purely malicious garbage. Another player banned for the same thing straight up told me he was trying to shame people off the server. It's fucking nonsense and I'm sick of seeing it.

Don't try to internet detective/e-stalk/dox other players. Don't go around googling their porn accounts or their insane fetish commissions or their ERP profiles so you can parade them in OOC to shame them or whatever.

It's being a dick. It's against the rules. OP and every other funnyguy highschool redditor needs to fuck off and cut this shit out.

This is where I stand on this as well. This Internet Detective Gossip Circle shit needs to stop.

[feem]

While nothing else needs to be said about the substance of this behavior because sawrge et al already summed it up, OP, if i'd seen you doing this, especially after having been talked to about it before, you would've copped more than an OOC ban.

This is yet ANOTHER example of you idiots creating drama out of your perception that other shit is drama. Jerking yourself and each other off over "lolcows" because you like pointing out that other people are jerking off about things that they actually like doesn't exactly paint you as the good person in the dialogue.

[oranges]

Do try to internet detective/e-stalk/dox other players. Don't go around googling their porn accounts or their insane fetish commissions or their ERP profiles so you can parade them in OOC to shame them or whatever.

[BeeSting12]

Yakumo, Sawrge, and feem all summed up my feelings on the matter fairly well. It shouldn't even be a question of whether this is a policy IMO, this is a blatant rule one violation which I believe says it's okay to be a dick to a point ICly, but don't do it OOCly.

[iamgoofball]

Question

If they do weird shit IN GAME (like erping) can we ridicule them for it since they did it on the server

[feem]

if they're doing it in front of you then yeah absolutely

there's only a problem when you go hunting for outside bullshit and bring it home with you

just don't ick in ock or make it weird

[Armhulen]

i'm not lifting this, kor's not lifting this and beesting is definitely not lifting this.

Sorry!