[jordie0608] Beardbeard - Blacklist Appeal

[mysteryman sideburns]

Byond account and character name: Sideburns, Beardbeard Godslayer/Majoric Chevalier/Kor Phaeron
Banning admin: jordie0608
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server
Ban reason and length:
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 5:12:53
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): None
Your side of the story: I would like to note that it wasn't a ban evasion, I went on a few days ago to get my ban message again for another appeal and found that I was able to connect. I assumed there was some sort of New Year Ban Clearout and went with it. I didn't hide who I was in any way.
Why you think you should be unbanned: It's been five years and I'm a better man. A good man. A man's best friend man. I played for several days without insanely murdering anyone or otherwise fucking anyone over, except one time when I hopped into a giant inferno and killed only myself and some floor tiles. Before anyone comes in and locks this I would like to mention that even Kor and MSO were aware of my existence without banning me, and that jordie told me to go ahead and appeal. Thank and god bless.

[MrStonedOne]

Beardbeard - ban evasion + multiple failed attempts at probation

This is the reasoning put down in the blacklist.

This does not seem like something worthy of the blacklist, most other people on the blacklist are on the blacklist for multiple cases of forced erp, doxxing admins, and repeated exploiting the servers for crashing or info leak reasons.

This stands out in a "one of these things are not like the other" sort of way.

I'll ask the oldfags if any know of any other reasons why you are blacklisted but that part isn't likely to stand. you'll still have to win a permaban appeal

[Stickymayhem]

This fucker was given admin for a round and adminbanned me for no fucking reason.

Spoiler:

trialmin him when

[mysteryman sideburns]

Beardbeard - ban evasion + multiple failed attempts at probation

This is the reasoning put down in the blacklist.

This does not seem like something worthy of the blacklist, most other people on the blacklist are on the blacklist for multiple cases of forced erp, doxxing admins, and repeated exploiting the servers for crashing or info leak reasons.

This stands out in a "one of these things are not like the other" sort of way.

I'll ask the oldfags if any know of any other reasons why you are blacklisted but that part isn't likely to stand. you'll still have to win a permaban appeal

For what it's worth I have never ban evaded, I'm not nearly smart enough to know how.

This fucker was given admin for a round and adminbanned me for no fucking reason.

Spoiler:

trialmin him when

You said you were unbannable so I had to smite you for your hubris.

[Wyzack]

Not gonna comment on anything else, but I think it is really shitty to call it ban evasion if you log in with your usual account, aren't banned, and then play.

[oranges]

he was put on the blacklist by An0n3 and hg, ask them

also beardbeard knows he's permaed here so he knew he was evading with a new account

[Lazengann]

Does he still deny joining the old /vg/ server as captain and killing the entire station

[mysteryman sideburns]

Does he still deny joining the old /vg/ server as captain and killing the entire station

I don't think I ever denied that.

[mysteryman sideburns]

he was put on the blacklist by An0n3 and hg, ask them

also beardbeard knows he's permaed here so he knew he was evading with a new account

I wasn't evading, that's the account I used to check my ban reason for the last appeal, maybe even the one before that. It was banned before so I figured when it wasn't banned this time it had been removed.

[Dax Dupont]

Last time someone went let's unban 2beard what's the worst that could happen quickly found out what the worst that could happen was.

[mysteryman sideburns]

Last time someone went let's unban 2beard what's the worst that could happen quickly found out what the worst that could happen was.

That was also 5 years ago.

[Armhulen]

Not gonna comment on anything else, but I think it is really shitty to call it ban evasion if you log in with your usual account, aren't banned, and then play.

ok but this was a new account, he found out he wasn't banned even though he is on his main, and then he played

[mysteryman sideburns]

Not gonna comment on anything else, but I think it is really shitty to call it ban evasion if you log in with your usual account, aren't banned, and then play.

ok but this was a new account, he found out he wasn't banned even though he is on his main, and then he played

Are you reading anything I'm saying? I was banned on this account last time when I checked to get my ban reason for my appeal, because BYOND bans are hardware and IP bans.

[Armhulen]

Not gonna comment on anything else, but I think it is really shitty to call it ban evasion if you log in with your usual account, aren't banned, and then play.

ok but this was a new account, he found out he wasn't banned even though he is on his main, and then he played

Are you reading anything I'm saying? I was banned on this account last time when I checked to get my ban reason for my appeal, because BYOND bans are hardware and IP bans.

sideburns has no ip or cid connections with beardbeard so i don't know why it would be banned

(but yes i didn't read the thread)

[mysteryman sideburns]

Something must have fucked up somewhere on BYOND's end then.

[Rustledjimm]

Blacklist is probably a little far perhaps.


But let's be honest, how many chances is too many? 2? 3? 5? 24?

If you've had over 20 chances to change and haven't you have forfeited your right to be given another chance.

I almost imagine the blacklisting was an act of pity to try and get you to leave as you should never be unbanned and so there is little point in you hanging around.

Might I suggest you try another server you haven't been permabanned on.

[oranges]

Something must have fucked up somewhere on BYOND's end then.

oh yeah, what a surprise, it's always on BYOND's side

[mysteryman sideburns]

Blacklist is probably a little far perhaps.


But let's be honest, how many chances is too many? 2? 3? 5? 24?

If you've had over 20 chances to change and haven't you have forfeited your right to be given another chance.

I almost imagine the blacklisting was an act of pity to try and get you to leave as you should never be unbanned and so there is little point in you hanging around.

Might I suggest you try another server you haven't been permabanned on.

I do not like the other servers.

[Rustledjimm]

I do not like the other servers.

That's not our problem, that's your problem.

I'm sorry but I can see no legitimate reason to believe you've changed this time when you haven't over 20 times before.

[mysteryman sideburns]

I do not like the other servers.

That's not our problem, that's your problem.

I'm sorry but I can see no legitimate reason to believe you've changed this time when you haven't over 20 times before.

I was 17 when I was last banned, friend. It's been 5 long years since then. I'm a better man.

[iamgoofball]

Blacklist is probably a little far perhaps.


But let's be honest, how many chances is too many? 2? 3? 5? 24?

If you've had over 20 chances to change and haven't you have forfeited your right to be given another chance.

I almost imagine the blacklisting was an act of pity to try and get you to leave as you should never be unbanned and so there is little point in you hanging around.

Might I suggest you try another server you haven't been permabanned on.

Hey, you weren't even here for any of those bans. Why the fuck do you think your opinion on it matters?

[lntigracy]

Might I suggest you try another server you haven't been permabanned on.

Ha.

There are none.

We unbanned him in 2015 on /vg/ and he (seperate rounds):
walled off arrivals as a mommi
sprayed welding fuel all over the emergency shuttle

[iamgoofball]

Might I suggest you try another server you haven't been permabanned on.

Ha.

There are none.

We unbanned him in 2015 on /vg/ and he (seperate rounds):
walled off arrivals as a mommi
sprayed welding fuel all over the emergency shuttle

our players here do worse shit than this on the daily and get off for free

our admins throw meteors at the station in 80 player rounds because a config option got disabled

what beard did is nothinng compared to what we allow

[Ispiria]

Just going to leave this here in regards to goofball's last two posts.

Main FNR forum rules:

2. If you are not an admin or directly involved with the appeal (You are the guy who was banned, you saw what happened, you were his victim, etc.) then do not post in the appeal. Repetitive ignoring of this rule will lead to your FNR posting privileges being revoked until further notice

THE AN0N3 AMENDMENT:

Adding to/adjusting the definitions so that players can post in a thread regarding something they weren't involved in, IF IT IS TO BRING UP/POINT TO/HIGHLIGHT a rule, precedent, or piece of evidence that was missed that is relevant to the situation.

This does NOT include:
"This happened to me once and I didn't get banned for it" or the reverse "This happened to me once and I got banned for it."
"My opinion is…" or "I feel like…"

This WOULD cover:
"Rule 3 says…"
"These admins have always allowed…"
"Actually in the logs it says…"

This would allow players who are invested in the rules, have the experience, and can conduct themselves well to advocate in threads.

[Dax Dupont]

Normally, I'd agree but MSO specifically mentioned asking oldfags and goof is one. So am I, I guess.

[Rustledjimm]

Normally, I'd agree but MSO specifically mentioned asking oldfags and goof is one. So am I, I guess.

MSO said

I'll ask the oldfags if any know of any other reasons why you are blacklisted

.

Nothing to do with this appeal and nothing to do with whatever the hell goofball managed to incoherently type out when he smashed his face into his keyboard.

[Sometinyprick]

Beardbeard - ban evasion + multiple failed attempts at probation

This is the reasoning put down in the blacklist.

This does not seem like something worthy of the blacklist, most other people on the blacklist are on the blacklist for multiple cases of forced erp, doxxing admins, and repeated exploiting the servers for crashing or info leak reasons.

This stands out in a "one of these things are not like the other" sort of way.

I'll ask the oldfags if any know of any other reasons why you are blacklisted but that part isn't likely to stand. you'll still have to win a permaban appeal

He has been banned so many times nobody actually remembers how many times he has been banned, I think errorage put it at fifty or something close to that. This is the reason he got blacklisted
Either way it was five years ago so it's not really unreasonable to say fuck it and give him another go, the worst that could happen is he creatively griefs the shit out of one round and gets banned for another five years. As I recall the last ban we gave him was for deconstructing the telecomms server room entirely for no reason at all, not really anything on the scale of doxxing or forced erp.

[kevinz000]

can we just give him like a yearlong probation and permanent watchlisting?

[imblyings]

pending headmins posts

[imblyings]

its a no, try with the next generation of headmins whoever they may be