[TheMidnightRose] xlink97 - Server ban appeal

[xlink97]

BYOND account: xlink97
Character name: Jeremy Thompson
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 3 Days
Ban reason: You do not ask to be converted to Antag.
Time ban was placed: 2019-12-27 01:57:13
Server you were playing on when banned: /TG/ Bagil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 126677
Your side of the story: I was a quartermaster, I heard there were revolutionaries so I searched around for the head revolutionary to be converted, and was suddenly banned.
Why you think you should be unbanned: There was no prior warning to the ban, not even an admin PM, I've searched thoroughly through the rules and there's no rule that even comes close to stating that you can't intentionally be converted or attempt to be converted into an antagonist.

[bobbahbrown]

...I've searched thoroughly through the rules and there's no rule that even comes close to stating that you can't intentionally be converted or attempt to be converted into an antagonist.

Previous headmin ruling, it isn't allowed: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 63#p322876

For future notice you can see a curated list of headmin rulings here on the wiki: https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings

This is also linked on the rules page itself.

The messages below are taken from game.txt, they are not representative of the entire playtime of the player but instead are intended to show the attempts at getting converted. (src, statbus, scrubby)

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[2019-12-27 01:48:24.102] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where do I get rev'd" (Medbay Central (105, 109, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:52:55.825] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "who can make me a rev?" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 132, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:48.605] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "make me a rev" (Fore Primary Hallway (107, 152, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:50.527] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "please" (Fore Primary Hallway (107, 148, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:09.387] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "take me to the headrev" (Locker Room (135, 152, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:35.503] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where's the headrev" (Dormitories (142, 164, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:56.024] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where is the headrev" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 148, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:15.925] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where headrev" (Port Primary Hallway (81, 139, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:20.378] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where is headrev I want to be" (Cargo Office (77, 138, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:35.612] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "make" (Medbay Central (98, 109, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:37.896] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "me a rev" (Medbay Central (96, 105, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:40.751] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "please" (Medbay Central (96, 105, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:14.170] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where's the headrev" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:17.100] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "I want to be a rev" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:27.816] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "take me to the head" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:37.955] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "flash please" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 115, 2))

[TheMidnghtRose]

This appeal is denied because of the headmin rulings of previous instances of this. There is a difference between having the shit kicked out of you and force converted against your will, and literally screaming out to find a headrev to be converted.
Originally I was giving you the benefit of the doubt as I checked into your say logs due to multiple tickets coming up about you running out to be converted. Sadly I was proven wrong in seconds as I see you over and over asking to be a Revolutionary. Going to spoiler these just to make it cleaner.

Spoiler:

[2019-12-27 01:52:55.825] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "who can make me a rev?" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 132, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:02.918] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "I desire" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 133, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:04.598] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "r e v" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 133, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:14.392] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "yes" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 133, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:20.693] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "thanks" (Central Primary Hallway (87, 145, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:25.490] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "I want to use my cargonian combat shotgun" (Central Primary Hallway (103, 145, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:38.195] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "wait" (Fore Primary Hallway (108, 158, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:39.607] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "take me" (Fore Primary Hallway (108, 158, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:48.605] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "make me a rev" (Fore Primary Hallway (107, 152, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:53:50.527] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "please" (Fore Primary Hallway (107, 148, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:09.387] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "take me to the headrev" (Locker Room (135, 152, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:23.949] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "oh no" (Dormitories (140, 168, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:30.213] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "not dorms 6" (Dormitories (142, 165, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:30.711] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "oh" (Dormitories (142, 165, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:35.503] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where's the headrev" (Dormitories (142, 164, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:56.024] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where is the headrev" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 148, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:54:57.912] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "oof" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 148, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:09.990] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "E" (Central Primary Hallway (90, 144, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:13.882] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "yo" (Port Primary Hallway (82, 139, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:15.925] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where headrev" (Port Primary Hallway (81, 139, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:20.378] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where is headrev I want to be" (Cargo Office (77, 138, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:33.859] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "yo" (Central Primary Hallway (100, 114, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:35.612] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "make" (Medbay Central (98, 109, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:37.896] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "me a rev" (Medbay Central (96, 105, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:40.751] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "please" (Medbay Central (96, 105, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:46.985] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "damn" (Medbay Central (97, 105, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:55:54.488] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "drag yourself into me" (Aft Primary Hallway (106, 109, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:06.186] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "yaaaaay" (Aft Primary Hallway (108, 109, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:10.126] SAY: Coolmcgroove/(Mothball) "Jeremy Thompson" (Hydroponics (131, 110, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:10.331] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "yo" (Central Primary Hallway (120, 114, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:14.170] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "where's the headrev" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:17.100] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "I want to be a rev" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:27.816] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "take me to the head" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:34.879] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "oh" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:37.955] SAY: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) "flash please" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 115, 2))
[2019-12-27 01:56:43.742] GAME: Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) has gained antag datum Revolutionary(/datum/antagonist/rev)
[2019-12-27 01:56:47.506] ADMIN: TheMidnightRose/(Emerald Gleaner) checked the individual player panel for Xlink97/(Jeremy Thompson) while in game.

Three days till you come back. Enjoy the holidays.

[Hulkamania]

MidnightRose is 100% correct in that this has been the precedent for some time now. Intentionally trying to become an antagonist is against the rules and is a punishable offense.