[NamelessFairy] Alogan19 - Silicon Job Ban

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[NamelessFairy] Alogan19 - Silicon Job Ban

Post by alogan19 » #608139

BYOND account: alogan19
Character name: B.A.K.E.R (AI left round so I took over their name)
Ban type: Silicon Job ban
Ban length: 7 days
Ban reason: You have been banned by NamelessFairy from Roles: AI, Cyborg, pAI.
Reason: 166299 - As a purged AI encoraged their borgs to purge the station. Please make sure to read silicon policy in your time off.

Time ban was placed: This ban (BanID #55507) was applied by NamelessFairy on 2021-07-20 10:51:49 during round ID 166299.

Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 166299

Your side of the story: We had a lot of racist copy pastas being spammed out by the Captain role ( XDyou/(Sarah Red) ) - I was personally fed up of it so when I saw the restraints came off we wanted to murder the Captain. When I saw the word "purge" I took it to mean purge as in the movie "The purge" meaning time to go wild. Entirely my fault as I encouraged the borgs to go along with it instead of holding them back and stopping them without escalation. This ended up in not only plasma flooding a lot of the station but canister flooding the escape shuttle as well which ruined the round for a lot of players.

I've gotten as much context of the situation in logs below which I have placed at the very bottom of the appeal as it is rather long. - I tried to get the exact ahelp conversation in logs but I can only get them from my client and my replies to the admin are not there - Nor can I find them in the log files.

Admin Convo

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Admin PM from-NamelessFairy: Can I ask why you were asking your borgs to plasma flood?

Admin PM from-NamelessFairy: Purge laws means you need to act as a member of the crew, you need a law telling you your allowed to kill people or being an antag to kill people. Otherwise purged AIs must follow normal esculation

Admin PM from-NamelessFairy: Alright, going to issue a 1 week silicon ban, in which I suggest you reccomend reading over silicon policy before playing AI again
Why you think you should be unbanned: I've since looked again at the Silicon policy page and lawsets - I now get purge means "all laws purged" not "Go forth and purge everything" - When I saw the law came in I thought the uploader was an antag and that was a "go nuts" signal - In actuality I get how it is just a unshackle module now and it was uploaded at the request of another silicon player - So maybe the uploader was new. --- Ultimately I get why I got the ban but as I was with more experinced AI mains from other rounds, I thought what we were doing was a okay - I did miss the query from N.T.A.S.C.S asking if I asked admins before doing this so I should have picked up on that. I would appreciate a second look at whilst what I did was blatantly yikes, I did it because I misunderstood the purge law and I do enjoy being in a support role as silicon helping other players round to round. If I could ask for an alteration to the job change I would be grateful but if not I understand.

References of good conduct: Prior to playing on TG I've been a long time player on GoonStation RP - I have a positive note on my player account from January 1st and have been playing on Goon since September 2020.

Anything else we should know: I have put the logs below to make the appeal easier to read/tidier

https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... nd-166299/

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[2021-07-20 10:30:31.636] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) "can you purge us" (Robotics Lab (115,95,2))

[2021-07-20 10:30:41.086] SAY: InvalidArgument/(Manganese LXXXIX) "purge?" (Robotics Lab (113,95,2))

[2021-07-20 10:30:43.577] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) "yes" (Robotics Lab (116,94,2))

[2021-07-20 10:31:30.261] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) "lul" (AI Upload Chamber (99,150,2))

[2021-07-20 10:31:35.826] SAY: InvalidArgument/(Manganese LXXXIX) "reset or purge?" (AI Upload Chamber (97,150,2))

[2021-07-20 10:31:48.722] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) "we had no changes so reset will not do anything" (AI Upload Chamber (99,150,2))

[2021-07-20 10:31:59.638] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) "you can purge or make diffrent one" (AI Upload Chamber (99,150,2))

[2021-07-20 10:32:04.726] SAY: InvalidArgument/(Manganese LXXXIX) "open this one" (AI Upload Chamber (101,153,2))

[2021-07-20 10:32:18.755] LAW: 10:32:18.755] LAW: InvalidArgument/Manganese LXXXIX used 'Purge' AI Module on alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) from AI Upload Chamber (100,151,2). , , impacting synced borgs <a href='?priv_msg=kliperx'>KliperX</a>/(S. A. M.)(<a href='?_src_=holder;admin_token=101903047686610101004310046100558333;adminmoreinfo=[mob_454]'>?</a>), <a href='?priv_msg=srgmccool'>srgmccool</a>/(Default Android-954)(<a href='?_src_=holder;admin_token=101903047686610101004310046100558333;adminmoreinfo=[mob_1117]'>?</a>), <a href='?priv_msg=addust'>Addust</a>/(N.T.A.S.C.S)(<a href='?_src_=holder;admin_token=101903047686610101004310046100558333;adminmoreinfo=[mob_1158]'>?</a>),


[2021-07-20 10:32:55.291] SAY: 10:32:55.291] SAY: Alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) (binary) "Begin the purge" (AI Chamber (214,144,2))

[2021-07-20 10:33:01.356] SAY: 10:33:01.356] SAY: Addust/(N.T.A.S.C.S) (binary) "Fuck up the captain first" (Bridge (113,135,2))

[2021-07-20 10:33:36.746] SAY: 10:33:36.746] SAY: Alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) (binary) "Cap first - But also rig up atmos" (AI Chamber (214,144,2))

[2021-07-20 10:34:49.512] SAY: 10:34:49.512] SAY: Addust/(N.T.A.S.C.S) "Steal the lasergun" (Captain's Quarters (118,135,2))

[2021-07-20 10:34:52.972] SAY: 10:34:52.972] SAY: Addust/(N.T.A.S.C.S) "Give it to our lord the AI" (Captain's Quarters (118,135,2))

[2021-07-20 10:35:33.614] SAY: 10:35:33.614] SAY: KliperX/(S. A. M.) (binary) "Gonna plasma flood" (Starboard Primary Hallway (129,137,2))


[2021-07-20 10:37:47.030] SAY: 10:37:47.030] SAY: Alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) (binary) "Cutting comms now" (AI Chamber (214,144,2))

(( At this point a bunch of comms servers are turned off by me - Did not list here for spam )) **************************************************************************************

[2021-07-20 10:40:15.377] ADMIN: 10:40:15.377] ADMIN: srgmccool/(Default Android-954) opened a canister that contains the following at Departure Lounge (108,72,2):

[2021-07-20 10:41:08.214] SAY: 10:41:08.214] SAY: Addust/(N.T.A.S.C.S) (binary) "Did you ask admemes before purge" (Space (17,157,7))

(( ^ This message I did not spot - So I did not reply )) **************************************************************************************

[2021-07-20 10:40:39.646] SAY: 10:40:39.646] SAY: Alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) (binary) "Now gotta ignite the fires" (AI Chamber (214,144,2))

[2021-07-20 10:40:45.925] SAY: 10:40:45.925] SAY: Alogan19/(B.A.K.E.R.) (binary) "The plasma is distributed but yes" (AI Chamber (214,144,2))
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Re: [NamelessFairy] Alogan19 - Silicon Job Ban

Post by NamelessFairy » #608188

To note, this ban was issued as you gave your slaved cyborgs several orders to start purging the station. Your orders were the first of the station purge incident. So in addition to the issue with you not understanding your purge laws you further emphasized the issue by giving orders that your slaved cyborgs are expected to follow.

Given that you've now taken the time to read of silicon policy I'll reduce the length of this ban to 5 days, however the ban and note itself will be upheld.
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