Character name: Lukas Beedell
Ban type: Note
Ban Length: N/A
Ban reason: Stickymayhem/(Jack Steiner) has created a note for Kieth4
Asked not to use 'sus' on it's own even if describing something like a moving box as part of the crack down on overused meme terms. While contextual, even something like "That box is pretty sus" would have been more appropriate. Disagreed in conversation so noting to track that the conversation was had.
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Your side of the story:
Firstly, I'd like to post the ticket discussion that we had: https://atlantaned.space/banbus/ticket/4220c2020f91e369
Now secondly I would like to add that the explicit admin ruling about this suggests that when used in context 'sus' by itself is not against the rules.
Sticky claims that he's enforcing the spirit of the rule here but I don't see what he means by it.
In specific:"Over utilizing any flavor of the month meme, like "imposter" or "sus" is a bit too OOC IC. Obviously if you have a reason to use them, like calling someone suspicious with sus its fine. However blurting them out at random is a bit much and we're cracking down on it. "
Sticky here is claiming to be enforcing the spirit of the rules."Obviously if you have a reason to use them, like calling someone suspicious with sus its fine"
I saw a box moving into bridge through the open doors into bridge so refered to it as "sus". I will continue to use sus in this context as it's correct and within the rules- Unless there is some admin only ruling that we players aren't made aware of there's nothing wrong with it. I also don't feel that it detracts from the roleplay experience, there is 0 difference between me saying suspicious or it's shorthand sus. I was not saying in some funny meme amogus context, I was refering to a player engaging in suspicious activity.I'm not trying to misuse the ruling, I'm applying the spirit of the ruling and fixating on the letter of the law is not useful when it can be interpreted in either direction. The goal is to reduce lazy, memey roleplay and that's what I'm doing here. You lazily said "sus" because it's convenient in the same way people yell "its a rev" before dynamic to lazily call out the gamemode
I want the note removed as I don't believe I deviated against the spirit of the ruling nor did I claim that I was going to. Instead, I was going to contextually to keep using sus to describe situations that are somewhat suspicious as it's a shorthand habit I've picked up which as long as it isn't used for amogus style convos should be fine.
At the start of the ticket sticky says
"I've been told to ban people who say sus now"
Which looking at the rules provided seems to present a gross misunderstanding of what they mean.
I don't know what spirit exactly was being enforced here.
Although I'll reply here obviously if sticky or anyone else wants to add anything I'd like the headmins to weigh in right from the start as I feel me and sticky reached an impass within the ticket itself as I posted above.
Thank you very much :)