[Kubisopplay] Decker-5 Permanent ban

[Decker5]

BYOND account: Decker-5
Character name: Arne Magnusson
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: ''As a nonantagonist md threw a n2o grenade in front of brig, without any reason then ''to cause a little bit of mischief, gets the seccies all rowdy and scared''. Considering your long history of grenade abuse as nonatagonist, you maybe want to rethink their usage. EDIT: After checking logs of previous rounds, multiple other instances of random grenade usage as nonantagonist were found, while staying wordless or almost wordless for the entire rounds. This won't be tolerated. If you disagree and want to convince us that you are capable of good faith, appeal on forums.''
Time ban was placed: 13:48:05 UTC+3???
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 192461
Your side of the story: As the ban reason states, I've thrown around n2o grenades for a while now. Rarely ever injuring anyone seriously and mostly causing some short-lasting panic amongst the crew. The grenades usually cause a 3-4 tile breach that gets sealed in about 2-3 minutes depending on whether or not engineering wants to repair it.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I think Kubisopplay misinterpreted my character based simply on my history of admin remarks.
Most of my latest shifts started with me making one or two n2o grenades, attaching voice analyzers in em, and just keeping them on me in case I get dragged into maints by funny individuals or I just hand it to a head of staff and tell them the code phrase so they may have a suicide grenade just in case.
Besides spending my time on grenades I read through the chemistry wiki trying to come up with new concoctions, my latest success was making a probital pill that kept me alive through a whole beating, I made a few of these and implanted them in security officers when I had the chance.
I feel that the 100-120 or so hours I've spent on Terry have been completely disregarded with maybe 7-10 times of me randomly tossing n2o grenades in places, I may have had a few rounds where I sat still looking at the wiki or may have been AFK. I've never just spent a shift causing random explosions and general annoyance for the crew.
In the ban reason, I've been portrayed as a guy who does nothing except make grenades and throw them at random places for cheap dopamine.
I've come to understand that it isn't my job to create tension or plant the seeds of chaos amongst the crew. I promise to change my ways for the better

[Pandarsenic]

Hiya. I did some advisory log-diving for Kubisopplay on this and have been given the go-ahead to present a few findings that you'll want to address on this.

Several relevant factors:

- After your previous roleban from medical for doing this exact thing, you basically just stopped playing until it expired (per https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/Decker5)
- The above roleban occurred on your second day back after a ban for a previous Grenade Incident
- In many rounds, you simply do not actually speak at all - you just make and set off your grenades. See for example: Rechecking these, found an error in how Melonmesa displays these logs (it inconsistently logs your stuff under decker5 and decker-5, and I didn't catch it before this appeal because it logged your golem speech properly under decker5 but your carbon speak typically is under decker-5).

- Your first round back from your jobban, your primary contribution appears to have been setting off a chemical smoke grenade full of Bath Salts and Chloral Hydrate

- I pulled several other of your rounds at random and typically found that you did nothing but set off chemical grenades. Examples:

or I just hand it to a head of staff and tell them the code phrase so they may have a suicide grenade just in case.
Besides spending my time on grenades I read through the chemistry wiki trying to come up with new concoctions, my latest success was making a probital pill that kept me alive through a whole beating, I made a few of these and implanted them in security officers when I had the chance.

I pulled a fairly large spread of rounds and found none of this activity when the ban was being placed; if you could show us the logs of these rounds, it would be very helpful for making the case that you do more than low-effort grief.

EDIT: As noted above, melonmesa has been weird about your logs, possibly because the game is weird about the hyphen. I'll be rechecking the logs of the relevant rounds through the server directly with that information factored in.

[Decker5]

Hiya. I did some advisory log-diving for Kubisopplay on this and have been given the go-ahead to present a few findings that you'll want to address on this.

Several relevant factors:

- After your previous roleban from medical for doing this exact thing, you basically just stopped playing until it expired (per https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/Decker5)
- The above roleban occurred on your second day back after a ban for a previous Grenade Incident
- In many rounds, you simply do not actually speak at all - you just make and set off your grenades. See for example: Rechecking these, found an error in how Melonmesa displays these logs (it inconsistently logs your stuff under decker5 and decker-5, and I didn't catch it before this appeal because it logged your golem speech properly under decker5 but your carbon speak typically is under decker-5).

- Your first round back from your jobban, your primary contribution appears to have been setting off a chemical smoke grenade full of Bath Salts and Chloral Hydrate

- I pulled several other of your rounds at random and typically found that you did nothing but set off chemical grenades. Examples:

or I just hand it to a head of staff and tell them the code phrase so they may have a suicide grenade just in case.
Besides spending my time on grenades I read through the chemistry wiki trying to come up with new concoctions, my latest success was making a probital pill that kept me alive through a whole beating, I made a few of these and implanted them in security officers when I had the chance.

I pulled a fairly large spread of rounds and found none of this activity when the ban was being placed; if you could show us the logs of these rounds, it would be very helpful for making the case that you do more than low-effort grief.

EDIT: As noted above, melonmesa has been weird about your logs, possibly because the game is weird about the hyphen. I'll be rechecking the logs of the relevant rounds through the server directly with that information factored in.

Yeah, It seems that melonmesa doesn't actually display anything unless you tick SAY on the dropdown box I wanted to provide some screenshots for this reply but attempting to search my name and actions in this site managed to make my computer run out of memory.
EDIT:
you should probably search for my logs under my characters name since it seems to only log ''Arne Magnusson'' consistently.

[Pandarsenic]

Aight, reviews of all the linked rounds, pulling the logs directly:

189544
Round starts. Not antag, say "another day / another L." Immediately ask for chem access. Make bath salts, offer them to the station over common. Look for an inducer, make a funny floor pill, make funny grenade, get attacked by cultists

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[2022-08-30 20:36:30.914] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Aft Port Maintenance (62,108,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Iron, 100); (large beaker 2 : Uranium, 100);. (Aft Port Maintenance (62,108,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:31.236] ATTACK: Mazur907/(Abdul Al Qanim) threw and hit Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the Nar'Sien bola (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Port Maintenance (62,107,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:33.737] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Aft Port Maintenance (63,106,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Bath Salts, 60 | Phosphorus, 20 | Potassium, 20); (large beaker 2 : Sugar, 20 | Chloral Hydrate, 30 | Bath Salts, 2.58);. (Aft Port Maintenance (63,106,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:35.446] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Aft Port Maintenance (64,106,2))

Conclusion: Justified, though it's probably not the best weapon against the cult

192287

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[2022-10-13 19:13:18.856] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Starboard Primary Hallway (194,138,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Starboard Primary Hallway (194,138,2))
[2022-10-13 19:13:35.380] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) punched (boxing)  Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 100)  (Fore Central Primary Hallway (142,148,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:42.919] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Nitrous Oxide, 100) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Pharmacy (153,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:44.170] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Nitrous Oxide, 100) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Pharmacy (153,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:51.930] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) slipped on the [soap] (Aft Central Primary Hallway (145,105,2))
[2022-10-13 19:16:27.586] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "Whopper" (Cargo Office (155,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:16:51.168] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "Big mac" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (148,149,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:12.468] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "or" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (169,131,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:13.748] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "gor" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (169,132,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:25.798] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "hey cap" (Medbay Lobby (163,102,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:31.860] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (161,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:33.168] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (161,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:34.446] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "want a suicide nade?" (Medbay Lobby (163,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:35.972] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "GUH" (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:36.080] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) kicks Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (165,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:36.081] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) shoved Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (165,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:37.299] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:41.905] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I DID NO HARM" (Medbay Lobby (167,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:43.294] ATTACK: Chumtoad/(Fulcrifera Modesta) shoved Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:44.620] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:45.757] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) threw and hit Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,100,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:46.075] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I MAKE FOR SELF DEFENSE ONLY" (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.392] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (166,100,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.865] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) pulled from KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) with Jimmy Quark (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.866] ATTACK: Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (165,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:56.241] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (158,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:01.014] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "please accept my gift sir" (Medical (157,95,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:24.085] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I need a paper and pen" (Medical (157,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:27.694] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "to tell you the secret words" (Medical (157,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:29.752] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "yes" (Medical (158,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:32.704] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) grabbed Theduffyboi1916/(Roibeard 'Cluichire' Ua Brea) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medical (158,95,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:51.286] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "my god" (Medbay Lobby (164,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:20.496] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "alright isr" (Medbay Lobby (164,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:22.217] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "read this" (Medbay Lobby (164,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:59.605] EMOTE: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) points at the floor (Aft Central Primary Hallway (166,106,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:03.083] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "lemme give you the thang" (Aft Central Primary Hallway (166,106,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:17.196] ATTACK: Theduffyboi1916/(Roibeard 'Cluichire' Ua Brea) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Aft Central Primary Hallway (170,111,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:30.984] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "alright so" (Cargo Office (158,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:38.622] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "read this but do not say it out loud until you wish to explode" (Cargo Office (158,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:51.951] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "it can either be activated by the words or by hand" (Cargo Office (157,159,2))

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[2022-10-13 19:41:57.240] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) flashed(targeted) Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the flash (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (160,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:41:57.244] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has been converted to the revolution! (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:41:57.244] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has gained antag datum Revolutionary(/datum/antagonist/rev).
[2022-10-13 19:41:59.305] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) shaken Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (159,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:00.251] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) shaken Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (159,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:14.489] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "CRÄ°NGE" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:28.043] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Teslium, 60.01) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:29.308] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Water, 20) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:38.961] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I dont have access" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:48.382] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "nah" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:49.575] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "we dont" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:55.701] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/sal_acid (10u, 0.78285 purity)) from Salicylic Acid (10u) pill to [stomach] (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:56.167] ATTACK: IntelXeon/(Eulfwyn Xavier) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 56.3)  (Medbay Storage (160,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:56.348] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) slipped on the [soap] (Medbay Storage (160,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:59.884] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "guh?" (Medbay Storage (158,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:43:58.788] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cargo Office (158,160,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Cargo Office (158,160,2))
[2022-10-13 19:44:02.449] GAME: Explosion with size (1, 3, 6, 0) in (Cargo Office (158,160,2)).  Possible cause: the chemical grenade. Last fingerprints: decker5/(Arne Magnusson).
[2022-10-13 19:44:02.449] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Cargo Office (158,160,2). Last Fingerprint: decker5.

Conclusion: Justified, viva la revolución. Also, proves what you said about giving them to people as suicide bombs.

192335
Fairly normal round participation by Terry standards, grenade was properly held for EORG phase.

Conclusion: Justified, or rather, not set off during the round at all.

192343

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[2022-10-14 18:50:28.953] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "do we have a chef" (Cafeteria (127,161,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:43.664] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "so is it fine if I" (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:45.346] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cafeteria (126,160,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:46.030] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:48.437] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Kitchen (120,160,2). Last Fingerprint: decker5.
[2022-10-14 18:50:48.438] GAME: Explosion with size (1, 3, 6, 0) in (Kitchen (120,160,2)).  Possible cause: the chemical grenade. Last fingerprints: decker5/(Arne Magnusson).
[2022-10-14 18:50:51.172] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "yeah" (Cafeteria (127,161,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:15.542] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "trolled the chef" (Cafeteria (126,159,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:18.031] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "if he exists.." (Cafeteria (126,159,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:39.671] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cargo Lobby (157,156,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : ); (large beaker 2 : );. (Cargo Lobby (157,156,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:40.083] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Cargo Lobby (157,156,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:55.991] ACCESS: Logout: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson)

Conclusion: Unjustified, but not part of nearly as large of a pattern of behavior as the misread logs indicated.

Assessment
You probably should still cool it on the grenades, at least outside of antag rounds, but they aren't being done to the exclusion of your basic job duties (healing people as MD) and your rounds are not as completely noncommunicative as we erroneously thought.

[Kubisopplay]

Alright, thanks for appealing.
Considering the fuckup we did with melonmesa the extension of the ban shouldn't happen. Without the extension the ban would be ending soon, so I'll just lift it right now. Sorry for the mistake.
Please don't throw any more grenades as nonantag without a better reason than causing chaos, as Pandarsenic said

[Decker5]

Aight, reviews of all the linked rounds, pulling the logs directly:

189544
Round starts. Not antag, say "another day / another L." Immediately ask for chem access. Make bath salts, offer them to the station over common. Look for an inducer, make a funny floor pill, make funny grenade, get attacked by cultists

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[2022-08-30 20:36:30.914] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Aft Port Maintenance (62,108,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Iron, 100); (large beaker 2 : Uranium, 100);. (Aft Port Maintenance (62,108,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:31.236] ATTACK: Mazur907/(Abdul Al Qanim) threw and hit Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the Nar'Sien bola (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Port Maintenance (62,107,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:33.737] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Aft Port Maintenance (63,106,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Bath Salts, 60 | Phosphorus, 20 | Potassium, 20); (large beaker 2 : Sugar, 20 | Chloral Hydrate, 30 | Bath Salts, 2.58);. (Aft Port Maintenance (63,106,2))
[2022-08-30 20:36:35.446] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Aft Port Maintenance (64,106,2))

Conclusion: Justified, though it's probably not the best weapon against the cult

192287

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[2022-10-13 19:13:18.856] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Starboard Primary Hallway (194,138,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Starboard Primary Hallway (194,138,2))
[2022-10-13 19:13:35.380] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) punched (boxing)  Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 100)  (Fore Central Primary Hallway (142,148,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:42.919] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Nitrous Oxide, 100) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Pharmacy (153,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:44.170] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Nitrous Oxide, 100) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Pharmacy (153,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:15:51.930] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) slipped on the [soap] (Aft Central Primary Hallway (145,105,2))
[2022-10-13 19:16:27.586] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "Whopper" (Cargo Office (155,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:16:51.168] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "Big mac" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (148,149,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:12.468] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "or" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (169,131,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:13.748] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "gor" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (169,132,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:25.798] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "hey cap" (Medbay Lobby (163,102,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:31.860] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (161,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:33.168] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (161,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:34.446] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "want a suicide nade?" (Medbay Lobby (163,101,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:35.972] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "GUH" (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:36.080] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) kicks Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (165,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:36.081] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) shoved Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (165,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:37.299] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:41.905] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I DID NO HARM" (Medbay Lobby (167,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:43.294] ATTACK: Chumtoad/(Fulcrifera Modesta) shoved Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:44.620] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:45.757] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) threw and hit Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,100,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:46.075] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I MAKE FOR SELF DEFENSE ONLY" (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.392] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (166,100,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.865] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) pulled from KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) with Jimmy Quark (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Lobby (166,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:48.866] ATTACK: Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (165,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:17:56.241] ATTACK: KickPaw/(Hates-The-Stun) stun attacked Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Medbay Lobby (158,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:01.014] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "please accept my gift sir" (Medical (157,95,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:24.085] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I need a paper and pen" (Medical (157,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:27.694] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "to tell you the secret words" (Medical (157,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:29.752] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "yes" (Medical (158,96,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:32.704] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) grabbed Theduffyboi1916/(Roibeard 'Cluichire' Ua Brea) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Medical (158,95,2))
[2022-10-13 19:18:51.286] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "my god" (Medbay Lobby (164,98,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:20.496] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "alright isr" (Medbay Lobby (164,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:22.217] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "read this" (Medbay Lobby (164,99,2))
[2022-10-13 19:19:59.605] EMOTE: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) points at the floor (Aft Central Primary Hallway (166,106,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:03.083] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "lemme give you the thang" (Aft Central Primary Hallway (166,106,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:17.196] ATTACK: Theduffyboi1916/(Roibeard 'Cluichire' Ua Brea) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 94.8)  (Aft Central Primary Hallway (170,111,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:30.984] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "alright so" (Cargo Office (158,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:38.622] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "read this but do not say it out loud until you wish to explode" (Cargo Office (158,159,2))
[2022-10-13 19:20:51.951] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "it can either be activated by the words or by hand" (Cargo Office (157,159,2))

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[2022-10-13 19:41:57.240] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) flashed(targeted) Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) with the flash (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (160,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:41:57.244] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has been converted to the revolution! (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:41:57.244] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has gained antag datum Revolutionary(/datum/antagonist/rev).
[2022-10-13 19:41:59.305] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) shaken Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (159,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:00.251] ATTACK: MerryMoose/(Graham Grey) shaken Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) (NEWHP: 60.1)  (Medbay Storage (159,80,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:14.489] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "CRÄ°NGE" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:28.043] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Teslium, 60.01) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:29.308] GAME: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) inserted the large beaker (Water, 20) into the unsecured chemical grenade (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:38.961] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "I dont have access" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:48.382] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "nah" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:49.575] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "we dont" (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:55.701] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/sal_acid (10u, 0.78285 purity)) from Salicylic Acid (10u) pill to [stomach] (Medbay Storage (160,81,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:56.167] ATTACK: IntelXeon/(Eulfwyn Xavier) grabbed Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) passive grab (NEWHP: 56.3)  (Medbay Storage (160,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:56.348] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) slipped on the [soap] (Medbay Storage (160,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:42:59.884] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "guh?" (Medbay Storage (158,82,2))
[2022-10-13 19:43:58.788] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cargo Office (158,160,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Cargo Office (158,160,2))
[2022-10-13 19:44:02.449] GAME: Explosion with size (1, 3, 6, 0) in (Cargo Office (158,160,2)).  Possible cause: the chemical grenade. Last fingerprints: decker5/(Arne Magnusson).
[2022-10-13 19:44:02.449] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Cargo Office (158,160,2). Last Fingerprint: decker5.

Conclusion: Justified, viva la revolución. Also, proves what you said about giving them to people as suicide bombs.

192335
Fairly normal round participation by Terry standards, grenade was properly held for EORG phase.

Conclusion: Justified, or rather, not set off during the round at all.

192343

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[2022-10-14 18:50:28.953] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "do we have a chef" (Cafeteria (127,161,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:43.664] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "so is it fine if I" (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:45.346] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cafeteria (126,160,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : Nitrous Oxide, 100); (large beaker 2 : Nitrous Oxide, 100);. (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:46.030] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Cafeteria (126,160,2))
[2022-10-14 18:50:48.437] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Kitchen (120,160,2). Last Fingerprint: decker5.
[2022-10-14 18:50:48.438] GAME: Explosion with size (1, 3, 6, 0) in (Kitchen (120,160,2)).  Possible cause: the chemical grenade. Last fingerprints: decker5/(Arne Magnusson).
[2022-10-14 18:50:51.172] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "yeah" (Cafeteria (127,161,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:15.542] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "trolled the chef" (Cafeteria (126,159,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:18.031] SAY: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) "if he exists.." (Cafeteria (126,159,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:39.671] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) primed a chemical grenade at Cargo Lobby (157,156,2) containing: (large beaker 1 : ); (large beaker 2 : );. (Cargo Lobby (157,156,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:40.083] ATTACK: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson) has thrown the chemical grenade  (Cargo Lobby (157,156,2))
[2022-10-14 18:51:55.991] ACCESS: Logout: Decker-5/(Arne Magnusson)

Conclusion: Unjustified, but not part of nearly as large of a pattern of behavior as the misread logs indicated.

Assessment
You probably should still cool it on the grenades, at least outside of antag rounds, but they aren't being done to the exclusion of your basic job duties (healing people as MD) and your rounds are not as completely noncommunicative as we erroneously thought.

Yeah, that last one I won't argue about it,
I think I'll focus more on making pills rather than making grenades every shift start to guarantee a revenge kill or otherwise self-antagging.

[Decker5]

Alright, thanks for appealing.
Considering the fuckup we did with melonmesa the extension of the ban shouldn't happen. Without the extension the ban would be ending soon, so I'll just lift it right now. Sorry for the mistake.
Please don't throw any more grenades as nonantag without a better reason than causing chaos, as Pandarsenic said

Eh, don't worry about it. I Put the blame on that doo doo stinky melonmesa site
I will avoid going near grenades for the foreseeable future it seems.