[Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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[Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709873

BYOND account: Hoolny
Character name: Seth Deces
Ban type: Server
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Spawned over 40 times as golems to harass security officers as a non-antagonist on a greenshift. Used "orders given" by himself prior to ghosting into and controlling the shells to "carry out" those orders. You were permaed before for carrying issues through multiple lives with borgs, and now you've done it again to a much bigger degree.

Time ban was placed: 2023-11-05 06:43:06
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 218173
Your side of the story:

I have felt an increasing hostility of administration towards me mostly having to do with them reviewing my actions without even being in a round using a totally different DM I made to respond to a previous issue they simply skimmed over and banning me for them to passive-aggressively tell me to respond on the forums with a show of nothing I could say to them changing their opinion, under casual circumstances I don't mind this hostility towards me but this is actual game administration and I don't feel like I'm being treated appropriately, this is just some space game on the internet so it isn't that serious but the admins seem to be taking it serious so I think is serious so I probably should take it serious and be concerned about this behavior.

Omega referenced me using "orders given" by myself but I was not following or even thinking about orders I have given as a golem I was met with violence and I responded in a less violent way I didn't "carry out" any orders I was simply defending myself and also shoving security and stealing their weapons before they inventively killed me, Although I did once critted a sec officer after I was nearly crit by throwing a spear their way.

I find this ban to be absolutely ridiculous and not well though out when you look at sybils player culture and the rules we go by, I was not aware you arent allowed to shove people for no reason since its done ALL THE TIME.

I will now reference each and every single golem and how the conflict started

1.(golem 902)

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05:30:08	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (902)) shoved Longines/(Pike Yeskey) into Seth Deces (NEWHP: 100)	(172, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:30:08	ATTACK	Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) attacked Cboggs03/(Golem (166)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 66.3)	(188, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:30:08	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) shoved Hoolny/(Golem (902)) (NEWHP: 100)	(171, 130, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
Shoved the security officer as they where trying to arrest my master

2.(golem 990)

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05:31:09	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (990)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 86.5)	(174, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:31:09	ATTACK	Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague) grabbed *no key*/(monkey (503)) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)	(209, 175, 2)	Prison Garden
05:31:09	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the water flower with a range of [1], containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:09	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from a water flower with a range of [1] and containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:09	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) sprayed [floor] with the water flower which had /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity)	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:09	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/cryostylane (5u, 0.245227 purity)) from the x-large beaker to [dropper]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:10	ATTACK	FREDTHE2ND/(Mirracle Harison) stuffed *no key*/(Kayla Paulson) inside of the materials market crate - #806 (NEWHP: 100)	(149, 148, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:10	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (990)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 73)	(174, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:31:10	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/cryostylane (5u, 0.245227 purity)) from the dropper to [brain-computer interface]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:10	ATTACK	Redrover1760/(Jaden Wible) grabbed DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)	(170, 122, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the water flower with a range of [1], containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from a water flower with a range of [1] and containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) sprayed [railing] with the water flower which had /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity)	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) sprayed [floor] with the water flower which had /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity)	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	*no key*/(monkey (177)) suffered: Hairline Fracture to right leg | Damage: 15 (rolled 42/44.3127) | WB: 5	(170, 147, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	Cboggs03/(Golem (328)) crashed into *no key*/(monkey (177)) (NEWHP: -295.7)	(169, 147, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:11	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/cryostylane (4u, 0.245227 purity)) from the x-large beaker to [dropper]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:12	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the water flower with a range of [1], containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:12	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) fired a puff of reagents from a water flower with a range of [1] and containing /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity).	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:12	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) sprayed [floor] with the water flower which had /datum/reagent/water (1u, 1 purity)	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:12	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Cyberjunk/(Fabian Rowley) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 92.4)	(175, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:31:12	ATTACK	*no key*/(�Medibot) tended the wounds of *no key*/(Seth Deces) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 10)	(168, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:31:12	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/cryostylane (4u, 0.245227 purity)) from the dropper to [brain-computer interface]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:12	ATTACK	Garrett0426/(Red Dead Redemption Two) has thrown the water flower	(137, 163, 2)	Fore Primary Hallway
05:31:13	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/drug/bath_salts (1u, 0.683741 purity)) from the large beaker to [dropper]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:14	ATTACK	*no key*/(�Medibot) tended the wounds of *no key*/(Seth Deces) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 12.5)	(168, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:31:14	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/coconut_rum (2.5u, 1 purity) and /datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/kahlua (2.5u, 0.5 purity)) from the shaker to [stomach]	(146, 165, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:31:15	ATTACK	MGO/(Widum Boise) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/drug/bath_salts (1u, 0.683741 purity)) from the dropper to [brain-computer interface]	(152, 94, 2)	Medical
05:31:15	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/coconut_rum (2.5u, 1 purity) and /datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/kahlua (2.5u, 0.5 purity)) from the shaker to [stomach]	(146, 165, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:31:16	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/coconut_rum (2.5u, 1 purity) and /datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/kahlua (2.5u, 0.5 purity)) from the shaker to [stomach]	(146, 165, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:31:16	ATTACK	Redrover1760/(Jaden Wible) attempted to handcuff DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) (NEWHP: 100)	(170, 108, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:31:16	ATTACK	*no key*/(�Medibot) tended the wounds of *no key*/(Seth Deces) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 15)	(168, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:31:16	ATTACK	Redrover1760/(Jaden Wible) failed to handcuff DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) (NEWHP: 100)	(170, 108, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:31:17	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/coconut_rum (2.5u, 1 purity) and /datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/kahlua (2.5u, 0.5 purity)) from the shaker to [stomach]	(146, 165, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:31:17	ATTACK	Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague) grabbed *no key*/(monkey (503)) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 99.3)	(214, 167, 2)	Prison Mess Hall
05:31:17	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (990)) shoved Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 79.9)	(178, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:31:17	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (990)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 59.5)	(178, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
Shoved asamaritan because they where killing me with a saw as I spawned

3.(Golem 136)

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05:31:45	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (136)) attacked asamaritan/(Samaritan) with potted plant (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 43)	(171, 127, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:45	ATTACK	Robustitron/(Jimmy Little) attacked [Security Desk] with the fire extinguisher	(153, 186, 2)	Arrivals Security Checkpoint
05:31:45	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked [��Fore Central Primary Hallway omni air scrubber exeAD] with the circular saw	(170, 128, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:31:46	ATTACK	Robustitron/(Jimmy Little) attacked [Security Desk] with the fire extinguisher	(153, 186, 2)	Arrivals Security
Attack Asamaritan after seeing them brutally saw attack one of my brothers

4.(Golem 122)

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05:32:15	ATTACK	Heckels/(Marvin Quinn) shot Hoolny/(Golem (122)) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)	(169, 137, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:16	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -45.1)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:16	ATTACK	DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) kicked *no key*/(Caveman Johnson) (NEWHP: -732.5)	(149, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:32:16	ATTACK	*no key*/(Caveman Johnson) suffered: Compound Fracture to chest | Damage: 18 (rolled 41/57.1981)	(150, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:32:17	ATTACK	*no key*/(monkey (388)) has been butchered by Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague)	(209, 167, 2)	Prison Toilet
05:32:17	ATTACK	*no key*/(�Medibot) tended the wounds of *no key*/(Seth Deces) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 16.9)	(176, 96, 2)	Library
05:32:18	ATTACK	DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) kicked *no key*/(Caveman Johnson) (NEWHP: -732.5)	(150, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:32:18	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) has thrown the omega cannabis leaf	(142, 166, 2)	Bar Lounge
05:32:19	ATTACK	DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) grabbed *no key*/(Caveman Johnson) passive grab (NEWHP: -732.5)	(151, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:32:20	ATTACK	Fenysha/(Nicolas Lazar) grabbed Lurzik/(Ric Lar) passive grab (NEWHP: 97.5)	(139, 91, 2)	Research Division
05:32:20	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -59.4)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:20	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) has thrown the omega cannabis leaf	(142, 166, 2)	Bar Lounge
05:32:21	ATTACK	DaliIsTaken/(Golem (880)) grabbed *no key*/(Caveman Johnson) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -732.5)	(153, 106, 2)	Aft Central Primary Hallway
05:32:21	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -73.8)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:22	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (122)) grabbed *no key*/(Golem (481)) passive grab (NEWHP: -53.2)	(173, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:22	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -83.9)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:23	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) has thrown the omega cannabis leaf	(142, 166, 2)	Bar Lounge
05:32:23	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (122)) grabbed *no key*/(Golem (481)) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -53.2)	(176, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:23	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -97.4)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:24	ATTACK	*no key*/(Golem (136)) has died (BRUTE: 222.5, BURN: 0, TOX: 0, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0)	(148, 148, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:24	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (136)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -110.9)	(148, 149, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:32:24	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (122)) thrown *no key*/(Golem (481)) grab from tile in Starboard Primary Hallway (179,131,2) towards tile at Starboard Primary Hallway (173,129,2) (NEWHP: -53.2)	(179, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:24	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (122)) has thrown Golem (481)	(179, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
In here I was attacked with a disabler beam as I spawned while looking at my brothering being attack with a saw I threw another golem at them

5.(Golem 455)

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05:32:49	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (445)) shoved Excalibot/(Justice Koster) into Golem (122) (NEWHP: 92.6)	(178, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:49	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (122)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -55)	(179, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:49	ATTACK	Joe1876/(Joe Justice Odaniel) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/plantnutriment/endurogrow (1.95u, 0.3 purity)) from the bottle of Robust Harvest to [hydroponics tray (Cannabis Plant)]	(120, 171, 2)	Hydroponics
05:32:49	ATTACK	Robustitron/(Jimmy Little) attacked [reinforced table] with the fire extinguisher	(155, 186, 2)	Arrivals Security Checkpoint
In here I shoved the attacking humans with the fallen corpse of another one of my brothers as the carnage towards my kind ensued

6.(Golem 566)

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05:32:57	ATTACK	Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (566)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 93.3)	(176, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:58	ATTACK	Cyberjunk/(Fabian Rowley) has thrown the stunprod	(209, 127, 2)	Armory
05:32:58	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/water/salt (0.9941u, 0.75 purity), /datum/reagent/consumable/nutriment (0.2847u, 0.5 purity), /datum/reagent/consumable/nutriment/soup/rice_porridge (1.6952u, 0.75 purity) and /datum/reagent/consumable/salt (0.026u, 0.75 purity)) from the rice porridge to [stomach]	(143, 162, 2)	Bar Lounge
05:32:58	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (566)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 85.8)	(176, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:58	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (566)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 75.7)	(177, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:58	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (566)) shoved Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) (NEWHP: 76.9)	(177, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:32:59	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (445)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -64.6)	(177, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
In here I was attacked with a stun baton followed by a circular saw as I spawned

7.(Golem 408)

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05:33:15	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (408)) shoved *no key*/(Golem (566)) (NEWHP: -91.1)	(169, 124, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:16	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 101)	(119, 203, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:16	ATTACK	Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) attacked Chimpston/(Kraz II) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 55)	(225, 102, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:16	ATTACK	Chimpston/(Kraz II) attacked Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 64)	(225, 103, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:16	ATTACK	*no key*/(alien drone (410)) attacked Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) (NEWHP: 62.2)	(120, 203, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:17	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (408)) shoved Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 98.4)	(170, 121, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:17	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77)	(120, 203, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:18	ATTACK	Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) attacked Chimpston/(Kraz II) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 40)	(225, 104, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:18	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 53)	(121, 201, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:18	ATTACK	*no key*/(alien drone (410)) attacked Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) (NEWHP: 50.9)	(121, 201, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:18	ATTACK	Excalibot/(Justice Koster) stun attacked Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) with the police baton (NEWHP: 79.1)	(170, 121, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:19	ATTACK	FREDTHE2ND/(Mirracle Harison) stuffed *no key*/(Kayla Paulson) inside of the materials market crate - #806 (NEWHP: 100)	(160, 160, 2)	Cargo Office
05:33:19	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 29)	(121, 200, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:20	ATTACK	Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) attacked Chimpston/(Kraz II) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 25)	(222, 107, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:20	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 5)	(121, 199, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:20	ATTACK	Rotax/(Damascus Aether) fired at [lunar surface] with the beanbag slug from Khonsu 19	(121, 199, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:20	ATTACK	Rotax/(Damascus Aether) shot *no key*/(alien drone (410)) with the beanbag slug (NEWHP: 5)	(121, 199, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:20	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/coconut_milk (5u, 0.5 purity)) from the coconut milk to [shaker]	(146, 166, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:33:20	ATTACK	*no key*/(monkey (640)) spawned via the monkey cube, Last attached mob: Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague).	(208, 175, 2)	Prison Garden
05:33:21	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/coconut_milk (5u, 0.5 purity)) from the coconut milk to [shaker]	(146, 166, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:33:21	ATTACK	Redrover1760/(Jaden Wible) shaken Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) (NEWHP: 79.1)	(170, 121, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:21	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/coconut_milk (5u, 0.5 purity)) from the coconut milk to [shaker]	(146, 166, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:33:22	ATTACK	Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) attacked Chimpston/(Kraz II) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 10)	(220, 103, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:22	ATTACK	Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague) grabbed *no key*/(monkey (640)) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)	(209, 175, 2)	Prison Garden
05:33:22	ATTACK	Chimpston/(Kraz II) attacked Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 52)	(220, 102, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:22	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/coconut_milk (5u, 0.5 purity)) from the coconut milk to [shaker]	(146, 166, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:33:22	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (250)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 101)	(120, 202, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:22	ATTACK	*no key*/(Golem (566)) has died (BRUTE: 169.7, BURN: 45, TOX: 0, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0)	(169, 122, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:22	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked *no key*/(Golem (566)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -103.5)	(169, 121, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:23	ATTACK	Moths-are-cool/(Alejandra Rader) attacked [closet] with Medical Beamgun	(46, 126, 13)	Virtual Domain Safehouse
05:33:23	ATTACK	Panzer IV/(Sage Lockheed) attacked [status display] with the jaws of life	(181, 109, 2)	Locker Toilets
05:33:23	ATTACK	Chimpston/(Kraz II) attacked Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 40)	(222, 101, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:24	ATTACK	Saint1453/(Gor-Rok) attacked Chimpston/(Kraz II) with emergency toolbox (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -5)	(223, 102, 2)	Recreational Holodeck
05:33:24	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (250)) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77)	(120, 202, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:24	ATTACK	Excalibot/(Justice Koster) attacked [firelock] with the police baton	(170, 131, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:24	ATTACK	Pvur/(Abby Allen) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (250)) with ancient spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 59)	(120, 201, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:24	ATTACK	Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Fore Central Primary Hallway	(170, 130, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
05:33:24	ATTACK	Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) shot Hoolny/(Golem (408)) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)	(170, 130, 2)	Fore Central Primary Hallway
In here I shoved a human upon the continued carnage of my kind being prosecuted upon spawning followed by me being shot with lethals from a non lethal response

8.(Golem 28)

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05:33:38	ATTACK	Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) stun attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)	(183, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:38	ATTACK	Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 91)	(183, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:38	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (28)) shoved Deathrobotpunch1/(Sam Plasmaman) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 96.7)	(183, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:38	ATTACK	DeathTBH/(Tim Tennison) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (708)) with industrial welding tool (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BURN) (NEWHP: 110)	(139, 188, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:38	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 81.1)	(183, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:38	ATTACK	Plinkot/(pine tree) attacked [maintenance access]	(108, 116, 12)	MO19 Research
05:33:39	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) stun attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 81.1)	(182, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:39	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 72.1)	(182, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:39	ATTACK	Plinkot/(pine tree) attacked [maintenance access]	(108, 116, 12)	MO19 Research
05:33:39	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 62.2)	(184, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:39	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:39	ATTACK	DeathTBH/(Tim Tennison) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (708)) with industrial welding tool (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BURN) (NEWHP: 95)	(139, 189, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:39	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:40	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:40	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:40	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 53.2)	(182, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:40	ATTACK	*no key*/(alien drone (708)) attacked DeathTBH/(Tim Tennison) (NEWHP: 62.3)	(139, 187, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:40	ATTACK	*no key*/(monkey (503)) has died (BRUTE: 1, BURN: 235.29, TOX: 0, OXY: 5.33333, CLONE: 0)	(212, 165, 2)	Prison Mess Hall
05:33:40	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:40	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 45.8)	(184, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:40	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:40	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:41	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 36.8)	(182, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:41	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (28)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 23.3)	(184, 131, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
In here I was stunned followed by me shoving then and then being killed by a saw

9.(Golem 495)

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05:33:48	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) stun attacked Hoolny/(Golem (495)) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)	(174, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:48	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (495)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 93.3)	(174, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:48	ATTACK	Pvur/(Abby Allen) attacked *no key*/(alien drone (692)) with ancient spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 0)	(112, 180, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:33:48	ATTACK	Butterking3/(Gary West) attacked [resin wall] with the welding tool	(128, 115, 12)	MO19 Research
05:33:48	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (408)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -26.8)	(190, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:49	ATTACK	asamaritan/(Samaritan) attacked *no key*/(Golem (408)) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -40.3)	(190, 130, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:49	ATTACK	Butterking3/(Gary West) attacked [resin wall] with the welding tool	(128, 115, 12)	MO19 Research
05:33:49	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:49	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:50	ATTACK	Grobnok/(Johann Faust) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/fuel (10u, 1 purity)) from the fuel tank to [large beaker]	(114, 32, 3)	Mining Station Cafeteria
05:33:50	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (495)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 83.4)	(174, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
In this one I was stunned again as I spawned before I even did anything

10.(Golem 601)

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05:33:58	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (601)) grabbed *no key*/(Golem (495)) passive grab (NEWHP: -21.1)	(174, 129, 2)	Starboard Primary Hallway
05:33:59	ATTACK	Pemander/(Jackson Arnold) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/consumable/ethanol/white_hawaiian (5u, 0.5 purity)) from the shaker to [stomach]	(145, 164, 2)	The Loose Goose
05:34:01	ATTACK	Hoolny/(Golem (601)) grabbed Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) passive grab (NEWHP: 79.1)	(175, 127, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:01	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) has thrown the reinforced bola	(175, 127, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:01	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) threw and hit Hoolny/(Golem (601)) with the reinforced bola (NEWHP: 100)	(175, 127, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:02	ATTACK	Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) has thrown the security beret	(202, 125, 2)	Security Locker Room
05:34:03	ATTACK	Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) healed Kan3/(No-Face Jimmy) with suture (NEWHP: 39.7)	(107, 180, 12)	Khonsu 19
05:34:04	ATTACK	Spotteh/(Releases-The-Plague) has thrown the iron rod	(209, 174, 2)	Prison Wing
05:34:05	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked [chair] with the spear	(174, 127, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:05	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) fired at *no key*/(Golem (601)) with the laser from Courtroom (NEWHP: 100)	(175, 124, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:05	ATTACK	Inert Inertia/(Amber Bee) shot *no key*/(Golem (601)) with the laser (NEWHP: 100)	(175, 124, 2)	Courtroom
05:34:06	ATTACK	Panzerkampfwaggen/(Coffee) transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/sal_acid (5u, 0.818261 purity)) from the beaker to [stomach]	(153, 63, 9)	Traveler's Rest
05:34:06	ATTACK	Mimepride/(Curtis Wing) attacked *no key*/(Golem (601)) with spear (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 67.6)	(174, 126, 2)	Courtroom
In this one I grabbed someone once and they threw a reinforced bola at me.


I was planning on doing every single instance but they all probably go all around the same and my computer keeps lagging looking at logs and my sanity cannot take it.

Look I'm not exactly a perfect unbiased being, nobody is, security clearly instigated this conflict on purpose to have a fun fight in this boring greenshift as you can see they started nearly everything and escalated up to lethals in a non-lethal fight which I would question escalation policy about that but every time I bring it up admins ignore me so I won't bother getting them for it.

I acted as I saw appropriate I instigated conflict when provocated not out of my past knowledge but out of a current moment of fitting protecting myself and my stone brother, may I have slipped up and attacked someone for no reason? so far I cannot find it on the logs but maybe I did, but do you find it fair for you to prosecute me on the basis of a small little slip-up while ignoring everything the players in that same fight did just because of who I am no player is perfect we do little mistakes every round that is often looked over by administration you seem to be prosecuting me on past inferences and general attitudes towards me more than the actions itself that I took which as far as I can tell currently where fully justified but by the chance I did slip up which I am very likely to do I don't see a permanent ban as fair on anyway.

Big remark here security KILLED 40+ GOLEMS and the golems killed 0 SECURITY OFFICERS

There is a clear discrepancy in the numbers the reason I spawned so many times is because security killed me so many fucking times over non lethals to lethals but then you'd say if I ahelped that "well golems have relaxed escalation so its no issue" meanwhile I'm getting perma banned for shoving some people and causing some minor mischieve on the grounds of using past life knowledge meanwhile I spawn as a golem and I see DOCENS OF MY BROTHERS CORPSES being mauled to death followed by me being killed or attacked.

Of course, I didn't even ahelp because we were all having fun, yet you had to come round after it was over and ban me over it when absolutely nobody was greatly harmed but me 40 times over and you don't even bother listening to me you just tell me to go on the forums to discuss it I find that to be an extremely hostile response to me ahelping about how a joke I did was funny.

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This is the rule I'm basing them not doing the wrong thing since golem life is cheap and can be killed if there are a few golems doing "wrong things" although I would say that they started doing lethals while golems where acting purely non lethally on a greenshift I don't really mind but If I'm getting banned for responding to their brutallity under relaxed escalation per the lavaland rule and they are getting in no trouble I think that's a bit unfair.

All my offenses related to this have been ghost roles so a ghost role ban would've made more sense but to be fair there wasn't a lot of room for any talking whatsoever in this ahelp
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Round was 218168.

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Full Game Logs involving Hoolny:
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Denied.
Hoolny wrote: I have felt an increasing hostility of administration towards me mostly having to do with them reviewing my actions without even being in a round using a totally different DM I made to respond to a previous issue they simply skimmed over and banning me for them to passive-aggressively tell me to respond on the forums with a show of nothing I could say to them changing their opinion, under casual circumstances I don't mind this hostility towards me but this is actual game administration and I don't feel like I'm being treated appropriately, this is just some space game on the internet so it isn't that serious but the admins seem to be taking it serious so I think is serious so I probably should take it serious and be concerned about this behavior.
I don't see how this is relevant. There's no "grand conspiracy" against you, I'm not that admin, et cetera- the only thing that's persistent among administration is the notes and bans you carry with you. In this case, it's the permaban you had prior of doing nearly this same exact thing (multiple lives to complete some objective.)
Hoolny wrote: Omega referenced me using "orders given" by myself but I was not following or even thinking about orders I have given as a golem I was met with violence and I responded in a less violent way I didn't "carry out" any orders I was simply defending myself and also shoving security and stealing their weapons before they inventively killed me, Although I did once critted a sec officer after I was nearly crit by throwing a spear their way.

I find this ban to be absolutely ridiculous and not well though out when you look at sybils player culture and the rules we go by, I was not aware you arent allowed to shove people for no reason since its done ALL THE TIME.
A) "sybils player culture and the rules we go by" is, again, irrelevant. You go by the server rules, not whichever ones you choose to make up for yourself.
B) You were met with violence since you instigated the conflict at the very start, and then security was overwhelmed with a tide of golems continuing this. If you kill five golems and a sixth one arrives, I'd view it as reasonable to assume that it'll be participating in the same act- which then you use as defense to perpetuate this onto golem seven, eight, nine, ten, all the way out to only thirty-three. My initial estimation of fourty based on how many lines of alternate names you had in the player panel was off by seven. This should not have been started to begin with, as a non-antagonist on a greenshift.

I'm not going to even bother going over all your golems as that's a fool's errand, but let's take the most egregious case, #3.
You attack asamaritan over """seeing them brutally saw attack one of my brothers""". Which, of course, was you. On a different life, as a different golem, after having started that conflict over a security officer trying to arrest your now-lifeless body after you ghosted out and started this whole conflict.
You utilized the excuse of "I saw them hit one of my brothers" to justify taking action against action taken against you in a prior life.

This is, point-blank, awful behavior and abuse of meta-info. Had it been only THREE instances, you would still be in the wrong. You escalated to thirty-three with the number of shells you kept hopping to.
Hoolny wrote:Look I'm not exactly a perfect unbiased being, nobody is, security clearly instigated this conflict on purpose
T. man who even admits he started it by shoving an officer performing an arrest on his own (catatonic) body
Hoolny wrote:This is the rule I'm basing them not doing the wrong thing since golem life is cheap and can be killed
Station's not lavaland. Escalation rules became relaxed for officers after they unfortunately found out that there's a literal unending tide of yourself coming to harass them with a grand total HP exceeding that of a megafauna, escalation rules for YOU were never relaxed. "I saw them hurting past me and will now continue to carry on responding if I die I just hop to a new body and repeat" is, again, abhorrent behavior.

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This sucks, dude. I don't know how you can even begin to justify doing it. I have literally never needed to make estimates off of "how many bodies has this person had" based on the LINES OF OLD NAMES they've had.
You were a non-antagonist scientist on a greenshift fighting against a valid arrest by abusing your own constructs to generate an unkillable wave of perpetual bullshit.


I'm not overturning this ban. You may receive headmin oversight if you'd like on it, though I doubt they'll overturn this one either.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:44 pm Denied.
Hoolny wrote: I have felt an increasing hostility of administration towards me mostly having to do with them reviewing my actions without even being in a round using a totally different DM I made to respond to a previous issue they simply skimmed over and banning me for them to passive-aggressively tell me to respond on the forums with a show of nothing I could say to them changing their opinion, under casual circumstances I don't mind this hostility towards me but this is actual game administration and I don't feel like I'm being treated appropriately, this is just some space game on the internet so it isn't that serious but the admins seem to be taking it serious so I think is serious so I probably should take it serious and be concerned about this behavior.
I don't see how this is relevant. There's no "grand conspiracy" against you, I'm not that admin, et cetera- the only thing that's persistent among administration is the notes and bans you carry with you. In this case, it's the permaban you had prior of doing nearly this same exact thing (multiple lives to complete some objective.)
Hoolny wrote: Omega referenced me using "orders given" by myself but I was not following or even thinking about orders I have given as a golem I was met with violence and I responded in a less violent way I didn't "carry out" any orders I was simply defending myself and also shoving security and stealing their weapons before they inventively killed me, Although I did once critted a sec officer after I was nearly crit by throwing a spear their way.

I find this ban to be absolutely ridiculous and not well though out when you look at sybils player culture and the rules we go by, I was not aware you arent allowed to shove people for no reason since its done ALL THE TIME.
A) "sybils player culture and the rules we go by" is, again, irrelevant. You go by the server rules, not whichever ones you choose to make up for yourself.
B) You were met with violence since you instigated the conflict at the very start, and then security was overwhelmed with a tide of golems continuing this. If you kill five golems and a sixth one arrives, I'd view it as reasonable to assume that it'll be participating in the same act- which then you use as defense to perpetuate this onto golem seven, eight, nine, ten, all the way out to only thirty-three. My initial estimation of fourty based on how many lines of alternate names you had in the player panel was off by seven. This should not have been started to begin with, as a non-antagonist on a greenshift.

I'm not going to even bother going over all your golems as that's a fool's errand, but let's take the most egregious case, #3.
You attack asamaritan over """seeing them brutally saw attack one of my brothers""". Which, of course, was you. On a different life, as a different golem, after having started that conflict over a security officer trying to arrest your now-lifeless body after you ghosted out and started this whole conflict.
You utilized the excuse of "I saw them hit one of my brothers" to justify taking action against action taken against you in a prior life.

This is, point-blank, awful behavior and abuse of meta-info. Had it been only THREE instances, you would still be in the wrong. You escalated to thirty-three with the number of shells you kept hopping to.
Hoolny wrote:Look I'm not exactly a perfect unbiased being, nobody is, security clearly instigated this conflict on purpose
T. man who even admits he started it by shoving an officer performing an arrest on his own (catatonic) body
Hoolny wrote:This is the rule I'm basing them not doing the wrong thing since golem life is cheap and can be killed
Station's not lavaland. Escalation rules became relaxed for officers after they unfortunately found out that there's a literal unending tide of yourself coming to harass them with a grand total HP exceeding that of a megafauna, escalation rules for YOU were never relaxed. "I saw them hurting past me and will now continue to carry on responding if I die I just hop to a new body and repeat" is, again, abhorrent behavior.

This sucks, dude. I don't know how you can even begin to justify doing it. I have literally never needed to make estimates off of "how many bodies has this person had" based on the LINES OF OLD NAMES they've had.
You were a non-antagonist scientist on a greenshift fighting against a valid arrest by abusing your own constructs to generate an unkillable wave of perpetual bullshit.


I'm not overturning this ban. You may receive headmin oversight if you'd like on it, though I doubt they'll overturn this one either.
I explained and showed evidence of how I followed the escalation policy and showed how I had a justification for shoving officers and stealing their stuff, you are saying if the HAD been three three instances which I have not been shown there been three instances of me abusing previous life info as you said, if you want me to now looked at every instance to showcase if I followed the ghost role rules to make an objective show of If I did the wrong thing I can do that.

I don't see why this has to be a permanent ban every single instance of me having trouble in this server related to this ban is all about ghost roles if I can act within the server through other means while not breaking the rules is a perma ban really neccesary?
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:04 pm I don't see why this has to be a permanent ban every single instance of me having trouble in this server related to this ban is all about ghost roles
Because every single instance of you having trouble in the server is also all about you breaking the rules, still. You were permed for something very like this in the past, and you're permed for this now.
Hoolny wrote: is a perma ban really neccesary?
Yes.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:07 pm
Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:04 pm I don't see why this has to be a permanent ban every single instance of me having trouble in this server related to this ban is all about ghost roles
Because every single instance of you having trouble in the server is also all about you breaking the rules, still. You were permed for something very like this in the past, and you're permed for this now.
Hoolny wrote: is a perma ban really neccesary?
Yes.
May I ask why it's necessary.

I don't have a big history of been unable to play as a crewmember properly this all has to do with ghost rules if you cut my ability to play ghost roles then no more problems would insue, maybe if I was ghost role banned instead of perma banned to then be instantly unbanned with the ghost roles there wouldn't have been a problem with me not using ghost roles as you see fit.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:10 pm May I ask why it's necessary.
Because you are incapable of playing by the rules. I think I've made that much clear - regardless of what role you play as or play in, if you can't play by the rules, you can't play here.
Security officers who repeatedly break the rules may get secbans, yes, but they also may just be banned from the server as a whole.
Virologist griefers who kill everyone with deathviruses as a nonantag will get server bans despite only playing as a virologist.
Engineers who fuck with atmos or the supermatter will get server bans despite only playing as an engineer- so on and so forth.

If you cannot play by the rules, you can't play on the server. A specific role ban is a kindness from an admin trying to get you to change by forcing you to avoid the role specifically.
I am past "trying to get you to change" as I have given it a shot with your past permanent ban. Goodbye.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:14 pm
Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:10 pm May I ask why it's necessary.
Because you are incapable of playing by the rules. I think I've made that much clear - regardless of what role you play as or play in, if you can't play by the rules, you can't play here.
Security officers who repeatedly break the rules may get secbans, yes, but they also may just be banned from the server as a whole.
Virologist griefers who kill everyone with deathviruses as a nonantag will get server bans despite only playing as a virologist.
Engineers who fuck with atmos or the supermatter will get server bans despite only playing as an engineer- so on and so forth.

If you cannot play by the rules, you can't play on the server. A specific role ban is a kindness from an admin trying to get you to change by forcing you to avoid the role specifically.
I am past "trying to get you to change" as I have given it a shot with your past permanent ban. Goodbye.
I have shown I am able to play by the rules as a crewmember without breaking them though.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709950

There are a bunch of factors I could try to bring up to justify my actions like shitsec, unfair escalation and me following whatever. I know you don't really care about any of that, tell me how can I convince you I am able to play by the rules.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

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Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:39 pm I know you don't really care about any of that, tell me how can I convince you I am able to play by the rules.
You can't- not with this showing, at least. Like I've said, denied. You're free to request headmin oversight if you'd like, but if you don't, I'm going to be locking this thread in three days.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709954

Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:41 pm
Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:39 pm I know you don't really care about any of that, tell me how can I convince you I am able to play by the rules.
You can't- not with this showing, at least. Like I've said, denied. You're free to request headmin oversight if you'd like, but if you don't, I'm going to be locking this thread in three days.
So I'm perma banned with no chance of ever getting unbanned?
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Omega_DarkPotato » #709956

Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:44 pm So I'm perma banned with no chance of ever getting unbanned?
Nervere, in the Main FNR Rules wrote:

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5. A permaban may only be appealed once every 12 months unless stated otherwise by the banning admin or a headmin. Subsequent appeals will be automatically rejected and deleted, and may result in a forum ban if repeated.
You could try in twelve months with a vouch.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709958

Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:46 pm
Hoolny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:44 pm So I'm perma banned with no chance of ever getting unbanned?
Nervere, in the Main FNR Rules wrote:

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5. A permaban may only be appealed once every 12 months unless stated otherwise by the banning admin or a headmin. Subsequent appeals will be automatically rejected and deleted, and may result in a forum ban if repeated.
You could try in twelve months with a vouch.
Alright, I guess now I have graduated from coder player to full coder that doesn't play the game. On par with the orange man himself.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709959

I do request for a head admin review I wonder what they will say I can't see it been any different from your decision though
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Cheshify » #709961

Hey Hoolny, this has been on our radar since we saw the ban pop up. You don't have any real ground to stand on here with your actions in game. You took a large number of golem roles and used them to grief security using metainfo and escalating in defense of yourself over a fight you started. As Omega put it:
This is, point-blank, awful behavior and abuse of meta-info. Had it been only THREE instances, you would still be in the wrong. You escalated to thirty-three with the number of shells you kept hopping to.
We had a unanimous vote over upholding the ban, please re-appeal in 12 months when you've made a serious effort to change.
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Re: [Omega_DarkPotato] Seth Deces - Golem Tiding

Post by Hoolny » #709962

I can't say I agree with how the actions I took are portrayed but I didn't see this going any other way. bye bye
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