[The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

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[The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by jonashx » #722219

Ban Details
BYOND account: Jonashx
Character name: Jimmy Quark
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: During round 218196, engaged in an ingame funeral for an OOC in IC reason(the banning of another player), and told the staff members involved to kill themselves. As Captain, organized the funeral, and then later in deadchat, told another player to kill themselves. Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (DEAD) "you are a 30 year old porn fetishist that steals felinids shoes in a online game" Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (DEAD) "you should honestly get the rope"
Time ban was placed: 2023-11-05 20:33
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 218208

Logs relevant to this appeal:
https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/ter ... 6/game.txt

After taking a longer break to think this through, I would like to address and clear up everything concerning my ban. This time off has helped me fully understand the severity of the consequences by my very own actions.

The funeral

I will keep this part short because I understand that this is the less important aspect of my ban, but since it is still a part of the ban reason I should still go into my reasoning for organising the funeral.
The plan for the funeral was thought out beforehand and aimed to prepare the round for a fully In Character event with precautions to minimize its impact on the round, such as notifying the head of security of taking my role
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after the planned (voluntary) suicide, as said in the roundstart announcement.
Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (priority announcement) "Today we are holding a funeral in the station's chapel for our fallen long time friend, Talon Mckendrick. Everyone is invited and i ask for no interference as this is a special occasion.As you might or might not know, yesterday in the middle of the night, Talon commited suicide in his home yesterday, breaking into it after forgetting his keys, then proceeding to put 3 buckshot shells from a pump action shotgun into the back of his head to finally end his suffering after releasing the infamous novel “My Struggle against the Space Janitors”. True reasons are unknown as of now.
The point was to portray Talon as killed by central command and not in any way intended to include any staff members active at that time.


"Telling staff members present to kill themselves"

I was never intending to involve any actual staff in this because I wanted to keep the funeral fully IC. My words were never meant to be directed towards any staff member, and at the time I felt that this would be understood because the staff that were presently online were participating in the funeral with everyone.

After being given some time, I do understand how my words can be seen as attacking the admins involved in Sk1Wass3r's ban and I apologise for any hurt feelings caused by this, but I really never meant to direct it at any admin from the very start.

Since I see them as my friends, I feel like I lost their trust because of my words and this situation, which I am deeply sorry for.


"And then later in deadchat, told another player to kill themselves."

I would like to add more context regarding this matter, but I take full blame on myself regarding it. At the time I was getting fed up with thebleh because of his constant rule 8 infractions, which made me incredibly uncomfortable around him. These feelings built up over time and lead to a complete overreaction on my end. I understand that the words I said to him are inexcusable no matter what person they are directed towards, and I hope that he was not affected by them.


I really regret how the funeral turned out in general, and I would like to say that I never intended on hurting any admin with what I did.
I made this appeal in order to properly apologise to the people who may have been hurt by the things I've done, and hope for a second chance.
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Re: [The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by TheBibleMelts » #722255

hey there, thanks for the appeal. before we really dig in here, i'd like to get a few things clarified. it looks like you organized the IC portion of this via your captaincy at the start of the round, starting with
[2023-11-05 15:16:57.817] GAME-SAY: Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (priority announcement) "Today we are holding a funeral in the station's chapel for our fallen long time friend, Talon Mckendrick. Everyone is invited and i ask for no interference as this is a special occasion.As you might or might not know, yesterday in the middle of the night, Talon commited suicide in his home yesterday, breaking into it after forgetting his keys, then proceeding to put 3 buckshot shells from a pump action shotgun into the back of his head to finally end his suffering after releasing the infamous novel “My Struggle against the Space Janitors”. True reasons are unknown as of now.
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- Dress uniform and other types of official clothing would be greatly appreciated. The proceedings will start 10 minutes from now on. After the funeral we will be holding a suicide pact to honour him and his achievements for the people interested, the rest of the shift shall continue normally.
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- -Today's captain, Jimmy Quark." (Captain's Office (161,130,2))
can you tell me about the OOC organization of this event in the terrycord from your side? were you also responsible for that?

dropping some other relevant logs here for later on. the full context of you telling another player to kill themselves in an OOC channel.
Thebleh/(Andrew Drake) (DEAD) "can we QC ban all the suiciders pplease"
Thebleh/(Andrew Drake) (DEAD) "terry might finally be worth playing again"
Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (DEAD) "you are a 30 year old porn fetishist that steals felinids shoes in a online game"
Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) (DEAD) "you should honestly get the rope"
and the IC portion of the incident
[2023-11-05 15:35:32.871] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "ON THE COUNT OF 3" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:34.838] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "WE TELL CENTCOM" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:35.830] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "WAHT TO DO" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:37.278] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "1" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:39.219] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "2" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:40.481] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "3" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:45.286] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "CENTCOM KILL YOURSLEVES!!!" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:45.929] GAME-SAY: Borb197/(Chad Dickson) "KILL YOURSELF JUSTICE12354!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Chapel (177,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:46.088] GAME-SAY: Okpuc/(Swamp Water) "KILL YOURSELF CENTCOMM!!!" (Chapel (178,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:46.576] GAME-SAY: Jonashx/(Jimmy Quark) "cc KILL YOURSELF" (Chapel (179,58,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:47.540] GAME-SAY: Customs4/(Jaydon Mitchell) "CENTCOMM YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF NOW!!!!!" (Chapel (176,59,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:56.719] GAME-SAY: Voudez/(Lucia Valdez-Walker) "CC GIB YOURSELF ALL!!!!!" (Chapel (176,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:56.920] GAME-SAY: Supergrog/(Jimmy Jimmy) "FUCK YOU CENTCOMM MOTHERFUCKERS!!" (Chapel (177,58,2))
[2023-11-05 15:35:57.379] GAME-SAY: Blurbo/(Caitlin Ludwig) "KILL YOURSELF CENTCOMM!!!" (Chapel (183,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:01.510] GAME-SAY: Prussen/(Plazz Fire) (DEAD) "cc kill youself" (Chapel (180,56,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:01.783] GAME-SAY: DaliIsTaken/(Lizard-Man) "DIE CENTCOM DIE!!!!!!!!!!" (Chapel (182,58,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:04.307] GAME-SAY: JastinDeep/(Talon Bulldog) "KILL YOURSELF CENTCOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Pharmacy (154,98,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:05.173] GAME-SAY: Okpuc/(Swamp Water) "KILL YOURSELF CENTCOMM" (Chapel (178,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:07.007] GAME-SAY: Likteer/(Chumba) "CENTRAL COMMAND SHOULD KILL THEMSELVES" (Chapel (180,56,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:09.247] GAME-SAY: Blurbo/(Caitlin Ludwig) "SLIP INTO A GIBBER BY "ACCIDENT" YOU BASTARDS CENTCOMM" (Chapel (183,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:12.183] GAME-SAY: Okpuc/(Swamp Water) "WORTHLESS RETARDS" (Chapel (178,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:18.255] GAME-SAY: Okpuc/(Swamp Water) "KILL YOURSELF!!!" (Chapel (178,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:26.235] GAME-SAY: Blurbo/(Caitlin Ludwig) "you should kill yourself.. NOW!!!" (Chapel (183,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:29.521] GAME-SAY: Borb197/(Chad Dickson) "NOBODY WILL REMEMBER YOU!!!" (Chapel (177,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:35.784] GAME-SAY: Borb197/(Chad Dickson) "ONLY IAIN0 WHO DOES TORTURE RAPE RP WITH YOU!!!!!!!" (Chapel (177,57,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:36.471] GAME-SAY: DaliIsTaken/(Lizard-Man) "YOU TOOK TALON FROM US, WE WILL NEVER FORGET" (Chapel (182,58,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:37.465] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "NOW WE" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:38.335] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "GRIEF" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:39.382] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "IN HIS" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:40.478] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "MEMORY" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:45.905] GAME-SAY: Kieth4/(Lukas Beedell) "GRIEF IN HIS MEMORY!!!" (Chapel (179,60,2))
[2023-11-05 15:36:47.336] GAME-SAY: Borb197/(Chad Dickson) "NOBODY ELSE WILL REMEMBER YOU SO KILL YOURSELF NOW!!!!!!!" (Chapel (177,57,2))
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Re: [The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by jonashx » #722419

I don't exactly remember how the funeral was organized. What I can recall is that I was informed a funeral would be hosted in a couple of rounds with the message reading something along the lines of "Talon's funeral after 2 rounds", which I believe was pretty much the only thing agreed upon.
With that in mind I wanted to prepare the round for a more IC event with the help of a satirical announcement that I quickly wrote before the round started.
I rolled captain to let the crew know about the funeral and to set some rules for it.
From that point on everyone acted on their own and everything was done in the spur of the moment.
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Re: [The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by TheBibleMelts » #722827

thanks for your patience on this while we worked on it. as with any controversial incident being appealed, we did our due diligence in redigging through the logs, revisiting dusty conversations, and speaking to administrators involved with the round in question before coming to this determination. while i appreciate you making this appeal to apologize for what you did, your participation and explicit OOC actions in telling a player to kill themselves is inexcusable regardless of that player's actions ingame.

you never know who you are speaking to while online or what state their life or mindset may be in, and your urging of another player in this community to take their own life because you took umbrage with their conduct in the game speaks to a lack of an critical part of emotional maturity that i think those in this community should have as a baseline.

i will be denying this appeal. you may appeal this again in 6 months if you would like to.
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Re: [The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by jonashx » #722874

Sorry if I came off as trying to make excuses for what I had said. I fully understand that my words were inexcusable and that it is not okay to hurt anyone the way I did, no matter who they are. I can say with 100% certainty that this is not something I will ever repeat again. I've taken about a 4 month break to cool my head down, and this has given me a lot of time to reflect on the whole situation, is there really no way for me to get a second chance any time soon?
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Re: [The Bible Melts] Jonashx - The Funeral Incident

Post by TheBibleMelts » #723270

a vouch from other servers never hurts after playing there for a few months. closing this up for now.
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