[Iansdoor] Myraowo - Unfair note

[myraowo]

BYOND account: Myraowo

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
() - Server Ban
(X) - Note
() - Forum Ban
() - Discord Ban

Ban/note reason: "As a non-antag, dragged a heretic's target into a situation where they were sacrificed to them for poor reasoning."
Time ban was placed: 2024-03-29 19:48:32
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 226331

Why are you making this appeal?(Check what applies):
(X) - The ban/note is factually incorrect
(X) - The ban/note is not against the rules
(X) - The ban/note needs modification
() - The ban was unjustifiably harsh
() - I was permabanned and I want another chance

Why should this appeal be accepted?:
Because what is said on the note is not what happened. I already knew the HoP (that was a heretic target, which I was unaware of) since we played on previous rounds before, so I decide to hang out with them which I usually do by dragging people around the station and looking for something that is happening. I started the interaction with "Let's go to dorms 4" as a joke, and because the HoP was already hunting for the heretic, they said over radio: [Common] Terry Quinn says, "Alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk". After the HoP said that, I decided to stop walking around aimlessly and headed to dorms 4, so they both could meet. Once we get there, me and the HoP get in the dorms room and I bolt the door open (important for later), and call Alison (the heretic, which I was also unaware of) over radio, which would be irrelevant to the whole situation, since the HoP already called her over radio previously too. Once the heretic got there, they got pepper sprayed by the HoP, which resulted into the heretic stunning and murdering the HoP, during this interaction I was blinded by the pepper spray too and accidentally pressed the bolt door button which made it unbolt and start closing, since I wanted to keep the door bolted open I pressed the button again which was too late, the door already having closed and making me accidentally bolt it closed, which I then quickly solved by pressing the button and opening it again (I am saying this because it's one of the reasons the admin in the ticket used as an incrimination of me helping the heretic, while the HoP was already stunned on the floor so it did not change anything at all).

With the story being told, I think the note was completely unnecessary, being a wrong place/wrong time situation, and the metafriending acusations (said by the admin on Ticket #14 during the round 226326, and on Ticket #1 during round 226331) being completely false since I did not help the heretic do anything, not even indirectly, since she was already called by the HoP herself. What ended up happening was out of my hands, and for the "poor reasoning" stated in the note which I assume means poor IC reasoning: during the fight my character could have not done anything, she is timid and a pushover and was completely unarmed, engaging into a fist fight with the heretic OR the HoP would have made no sense at all, and so she didn't, staying still and asking if she could have the HoP's body after the fight ended, which the heretic ignored.

[munchyii]

I was HOP.
Yeah she had nothing to do with the thing between alison and me since I already called alison to dorms 4 long before she did. As myraowo said she called me to dorms 4 to hang out and I was the one who called alison there so personally I don't think there is anything about her helping the heretic here

[iansdoor]

Why should this appeal be accepted?:
Because what is said on the note is not what happened. I already knew the HoP (that was a heretic target, which I was unaware of) since we played on previous rounds before, so I decide to hang out with them which I usually do by dragging people around the station and looking for something that is happening. I started the interaction with "Let's go to dorms 4" as a joke, and because the HoP was already hunting for the heretic, they said over radio: [Common] Terry Quinn says, "Alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk". After the HoP said that, I decided to stop walking around aimlessly and headed to dorms 4, so they both could meet. Once we get there, me and the HoP get in the dorms room and I bolt the door open (important for later), and call Alison (the heretic, which I was also unaware of) over radio, which would be irrelevant to the whole situation, since the HoP already called her over radio previously too. Once the heretic got there, they got pepper sprayed by the HoP, which resulted into the heretic stunning and murdering the HoP, during this interaction I was blinded by the pepper spray too and accidentally pressed the bolt door button which made it unbolt and start closing, since I wanted to keep the door bolted open I pressed the button again which was too late, the door already having closed and making me accidentally bolt it closed, which I then quickly solved by pressing the button and opening it again (I am saying this because it's one of the reasons the admin in the ticket used as an incrimination of me helping the heretic, while the HoP was already stunned on the floor so it did not change anything at all).

With the story being told, I think the note was completely unnecessary, being a wrong place/wrong time situation, and the metafriending acusations (said by the admin on Ticket #14 during the round 226326, and on Ticket #1 during round 226331) being completely false since I did not help the heretic do anything, not even indirectly, since she was already called by the HoP herself. What ended up happening was out of my hands, and for the "poor reasoning" stated in the note which I assume means poor IC reasoning: during the fight my character could have not done anything, she is timid and a pushover and was completely unarmed, engaging into a fist fight with the heretic OR the HoP would have made no sense at all, and so she didn't, staying still and asking if she could have the HoP's body after the fight ended, which the heretic ignored.

Howdy
From my Ticket with you, this is the issue.

We are. give me a moment, still discussing what I give you as a note. Now, there is the issue of your lack of care of the HoP and attention seeking to Alison. You can always have friends, but you can't be helping folks with their objectives for poor reason.

Lets clears up the interaction between you two and continue the ticket if you wish.
I'll let you pick apart that to explain very clearly.
This sequence starts where you are coming from cargo and end up in medical and you overhear the HoP's rambling.

>HoP is in medical to get treated for 140 brain damage that they had.
>HoP talks outloud and you over hear this
>You tell them dorms 4 out of the blue. actual no context there.

18:58:45.778 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "dorms 4" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:46.835 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Medbay Central (90,92,2))

>You begin dragging them away from medical as they are untreated and had just died few moments ago. I understand that you may not have known that.

18:58:53.044] ATTACK: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) grabbed Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (90,92,2))

>both of you get caught in Vortex that is pulling folks
>You begin to drag them once more
>Iconic "alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" is said on coms

18:59:59.961 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" (Central Primary Hallway (88,118,2))

>You ask "what did she do this time"
>HoP replies "she is heretic"

19:00:07.192 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "what she do this time" (Central Primary Hallway (87,124,2))
19:00:07.237 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "there is HOLES" (Central Primary Hallway (88,124,2))
19:00:09.632 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "everywhere" (Central Primary Hallway (88,124,2))
19:00:12.133 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "she is heretic" (Central Primary Hallway (88,125,2))

>You both are getting around tables in the hallways
>You both arrive at Dorms and you begin to call out for Alison to come fast to dorms 4.

19:02:58.506 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) ""ALISON COME TO DORMS, DORMS 4, FAST, PLEASE, DORMS 4 FAST (Dormitories (138,165,2))

>You scan and acknowledge that the HoP has 140 brain damage. They have been walking with you for 5 minutes to get to dorms 4.

19:03:40.814 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "brain, damage" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:44.030 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) nods. (Dormitories (138,165,2))

>You are happy to see Alison and Alison is there for the target.

19:03:47.164 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ALISON" (Dormitories (141,165,2)
19:03:48.640 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the carpet (Dormitories (141,165,2))
19:03:48.807 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Dormitories (141,165,2))
19:03:49.835 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:50.783 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:51.545 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "OW" (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:59.111 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:04:06.550 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) watches (Dormitories (139,166,2))
19:04:21.175 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) gasps! (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:04:28.382 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ok are you done with her" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:04:35.267 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "uh huh" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:04:47.689 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ALISON" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:47.741 WHISPER: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "AI alison is not human" (Recreation Area (146,174,2))
19:04:50.697 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "can i" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:52.763 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "keep her" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:53.410 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Recreation Area (146,175,2))

Those were the logs, now lets look at the ticket itself.

I literally did not know they were an antag, the reason for dorms 4 was literally just to walk around with them, while walking the HoP sends that radio message so I decide to just go there and call for Alison, since that's what HoP decided to do. Once we got there Alison arrived shorly after, she looked at me and then us both got pepper sprayed by the HoP which then resulted into her being killed. The max I tried to do was pull her body away and ask if I could have it because 1. I do not know how to fight, 2. I'm lagged as hell, and 3. Alison was armed.

I honestly don't get how being friends changes anything here. If person X says over radio "Hey Y, come to my current location" and then I follow by saying "Yeah Y!! You should totally come to X's current location!" and it ends up on Y murdering X, how would me saying (or not saying) anything here have changed the outcome? I didn't help Alison do anything, not even indirectly, she was called by the HoP, while I was also hanging out with the HoP. What ended up happening after was completely out of my hands.

You were aware of Alison was bad and didn't care for the HoP as medical doctor. What am I to say more to you?
Then your weak argument above was why you were noted if you wanted to know.

Only the logs between both of you from when you meet and when HoP dies. A few attacks logs in the mix

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18:58:05.981 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "Im currently in a bad situation i will handle that too" (Medbay Central (89,101,2))
18:58:08.583 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "when" (Medbay Treatment Center (87,102,2))
18:58:09.366 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "and put the IN the animatronic" (Medbay Central (89,93,2))
18:58:11.809 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "and like" (Medbay Central (89,93,2))
18:58:11.820 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "this is over" (Medbay Treatment Center (86,100,2))
18:58:14.948 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "freedy fazber" (Medbay Central (89,93,2))
18:58:19.439 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Medbay Storage (80,93,2))
18:58:22.609 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "five nights at freddys" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:24.729 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "and like" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:27.846 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "the children" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:33.567 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "are IN the animatronic" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:33.768 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "WHY AM I SLOW" (Medbay Central (88,89,2))
18:58:34.876 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "YES!!" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:37.984 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "OH FUCK ME" (Medbay Central (88,90,2))
18:58:42.708 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:42.960 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:43.730 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ok" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:44.127 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "STILL SLOW" (Medbay Central (88,94,2))
18:58:45.778 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "dorms 4" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:46.835 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:47.316 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:47.467 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:47.688 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:47.857 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:48.132 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:48.357 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Medbay Central firelock 8yUFa (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:48.712 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:49.460 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:49.826 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the floor (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:51.043 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "yes" (Medbay Central (90,95,2))
18:58:53.044] ATTACK: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) grabbed Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:59:06.257 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "uh" (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:07.237 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) nods. (Central Primary Hallway (116,115,2))
18:59:08.499 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "crowbar?" (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:11.487 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "dont have" (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:12.018 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:14.143 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "we're going to dorms 4" (Central Primary Hallway (117,114,2))
18:59:17.724 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "uh oh" (Central Primary Hallway (115,114,2))
18:59:20.031 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the �Central Primary Hallway firelock sAYCO (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:20.189 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the �Central Primary Hallway firelock sAYCO (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:20.486 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the �Central Primary Hallway firelock sAYCO (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:22.252 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (117,115,2))
18:59:29.474 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "uh oh" (Central Primary Hallway (116,114,2))
18:59:32.085 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "SPACE" (Central Primary Hallway (116,115,2))
18:59:33.453 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) waves. (Central Primary Hallway (119,114,2))
18:59:35.577 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "AAAAAH" (Central Primary Hallway (116,115,2))
18:59:36.945] GAME: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) has teleported from (Central Primary Hallway (116,115,2)) to (Corporate Showroom (109,117,2))
18:59:36.947] ATTACK: MadAlligator/(Danny Dingler) shoved Myraowo/(Lola Heart) (NEWHP: 82.5) (Central Primary Hallway (115,115,2))
18:59:37.737 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "VORTEX THIGN" (Corporate Showroom (109,117,2))
18:59:39.409 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "STOP" (Corporate Showroom (109,117,2))
18:59:44.595 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "okay no moth sax" (Central Primary Hallway (113,115,2))
18:59:47.082] ATTACK: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) grabbed Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) passive grab (NEWHP: 99.6) (Central Primary Hallway (112,115,2))
18:59:51.908 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "IN TG" (Central Primary Hallway (99,115,2))
18:59:59.961 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" (Central Primary Hallway (88,118,2))
19:00:07.192 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "what she do this time" (Central Primary Hallway (87,124,2))
19:00:07.237 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "there is HOLES" (Central Primary Hallway (88,124,2))
19:00:09.632 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "everywhere" (Central Primary Hallway (88,124,2))
19:00:12.133 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "she is heretic" (Central Primary Hallway (88,125,2))
19:00:20.991 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "i hate tables" (Central Primary Hallway (89,129,2))
19:00:22.648 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (87,131,2))
19:00:28.476 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (89,137,2))
19:00:29.915] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has teleported from (Central Primary Hallway (88,142,2)) to (Fore Port Maintenance (84,172,2))
19:00:30.547] GAME: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) has teleported from (Central Primary Hallway (88,142,2)) to (Engineering Foyer (162,135,2))
19:00:30.724] GAME: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) has teleported from (Engineering Foyer (162,135,2)) to (Library (76,123,2))
19:00:32.016 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Fore Port Maintenance (84,173,2))
19:00:33.364] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has teleported from (Fore Port Maintenance (83,173,2)) to (Supermatter Engine Room (176,147,2))
19:00:33.985 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "DAMN" (Library (77,125,2))
19:00:35.188] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has teleported from (Supermatter Engine Room (177,149,2)) to (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (150,102,2))
19:00:39.850 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "im" (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (147,100,2))
19:00:45.872 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "i wanna die" (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (148,100,2))
19:00:46.266] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has teleported from (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (148,100,2)) to (Medbay Central (88,94,2))
19:00:46.538 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "BORG" (Central Primary Hallway (89,142,2))
19:00:50.970 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "REMOVE THESE TABLES PLEASE" (Central Primary Hallway (89,142,2))
19:00:57.347 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "MAKING PEOPLE SLOW CAN LEAD TO HUMAN HARM" (Central Primary Hallway (89,142,2))
19:01:09.604 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "TERRY WHERE ARE YOU" (Central Primary Hallway (107,143,2))
19:01:19.139 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "im front of upload" (Central Primary Hallway (96,143,2))
19:01:21.975 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "alison" (Central Primary Hallway (99,145,2))
19:01:32.953 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "you can kill me anyways and im fucking crippled now" (Central Primary Hallway (101,143,2))
19:01:40.854 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "probably as easy as it gets for you right now" (Central Primary Hallway (102,143,2))
19:01:42.664 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "AAGHHH" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:44.220 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (105,144,2))
19:01:44.560 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "THE FUCKIGN TABLES" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:46.256 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "IM GOING CRAZY" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:46.690 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) nods. (Central Primary Hallway (106,143,2))
19:01:47.223 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "LGA" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:48.429 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "TABLES" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:49.593 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ZOMBIES" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:49.763 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Central Primary Hallway (106,143,2))
19:01:50.834 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "NO DRIP" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:52.058 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "SHITSEC" (Central Primary Hallway (104,143,2))
19:01:54.237 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "AAAAAAA" (Central Primary Hallway (102,143,2))
19:01:56.584 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "no drip is okay" (Central Primary Hallway (106,143,2))
19:01:57.130] ATTACK: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) grabbed Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) passive grab (NEWHP: 99.6) (Central Primary Hallway (106,144,2))
19:01:58.967 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "I cant see colors" (Central Primary Hallway (106,146,2))
19:02:02.739 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "WOW" (Central Primary Hallway (113,145,2))
19:02:04.998 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "that's sad" (Central Primary Hallway (116,145,2))
19:02:06.201 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "got braindamaged" (Central Primary Hallway (118,144,2))
19:02:07.413 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "BORG" (Central Primary Hallway (119,144,2))
19:02:08.852 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "BORG" (Central Primary Hallway (119,144,2))
19:02:13.777 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "REMOVE THESE WINDOWS" (Central Primary Hallway (119,144,2))
19:02:18.945 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "MAKING PEOPLE SLOW LEADS TO HUMAN HARM" (Central Primary Hallway (119,144,2))
19:02:20.479 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Central Primary Hallway (120,143,2))
19:02:27.896 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "who is cooking here" (Locker Room (129,151,2))
19:02:29.871 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "is it you" (Locker Room (137,150,2))
19:02:33.619 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "nah" (Dormitories (139,157,2))
19:02:34.275 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) laughs. (Dormitories (140,159,2))
19:02:39.356 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "which one" (Dormitories (142,164,2))
19:02:40.928 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "is dorms 4" (Dormitories (142,164,2))
19:02:45.051 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) points at Cabin 4 (Dormitories (142,163,2))
19:02:45.565 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) points at Cabin 4 (Dormitories (142,163,2))
19:02:45.843 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) points at Cabin 4 (Dormitories (142,163,2))
19:02:46.269 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) points at Cabin 4 (Dormitories (142,163,2))
19:02:46.987 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "oh" (Dormitories (142,164,2))
19:02:55.319 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ALISON COME TO DORMS" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:02:58.506 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "DORMS 4" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:00.340 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "FAST" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:02.101 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "PLEASE" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:02.973 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Dormitories (137,165,2))
19:03:06.553 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "DORMS 4 FAST" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:03:22.431 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "haters are gonna hate" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:03:26.448 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "but ok" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:03:26.699 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "true" (Dormitories (137,165,2))
19:03:40.814 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "brain" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:42.414 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "damage" (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:44.030 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) nods. (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:03:47.164 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ALISON" (Dormitories (141,165,2))
19:03:48.640 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at the carpet (Dormitories (141,165,2))
19:03:48.807 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Dormitories (141,165,2))
19:03:49.835 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:50.783 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:51.545 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "OW" (Dormitories (140,165,2))
19:03:59.111 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:04:06.550 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) watches (Dormitories (139,166,2))
19:04:10.131 COMPAT: ADMIN: Iain0/(Bob Stange) checked the individual player panel for Myraowo/(Lola Heart).
19:04:17.319 COMPAT: ADMIN: Iansdoor/(Vents-Hot-Air) checked the individual player panel for Myraowo/(Lola Heart).
19:04:21.175 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) gasps! (Dormitories (138,165,2))
19:04:28.382 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ok are you done with her" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:04:35.267 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "uh huh" (Dormitories (139,165,2))
19:04:36.345 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) screams! (Dormitories (142,166,2))
19:04:36.941 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Dormitories (142,169,2))
19:04:41.858 WHISPER: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "hahah" (Recreation Area (146,174,2))
19:04:45.906 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:46.061 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:46.226 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:46.389 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:46.615 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:47.689 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "ALISON" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:47.741 WHISPER: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "AI alison is not human" (Recreation Area (146,174,2))
19:04:50.697 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "can i" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:52.763 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "keep her" (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:53.410 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless... (Recreation Area (146,175,2))
19:04:53.475 ACCESS: Mob Login: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer (mob_4244)
19:04:53.505] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) (mob_4244) Client Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has taken ownership of mob Terry Quinn(/mob/dead/observer) (Recreation Area (146,175,2))
19:04:54.557 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:04:58.849 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) cries. (Recreation Area (145,174,2))
19:05:14.379 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "AI IF I GET SHOCKED ILL KILL HUMANS PLEASE OPEN" (Recreation Area (142,171,2))
19:05:26.646 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) screams! (Recreation Area (142,171,2))
19:05:29.452 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "AI!!!" (Recreation Area (142,171,2))
19:05:32.781 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) laughs. (Recreation Area (142,171,2))
19:05:46.450 ACCESS: Mob Login: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
19:05:46.461] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) Client Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has taken ownership of mob Terry Quinn(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Fore Maintenance (132,176,2))
19:05:46.467 EMOTE: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) gasps! (Fore Maintenance (132,176,2))
19:05:53.950] GAME: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) has teleported from (Fore Maintenance (132,177,2)) to (Mansus Lock Gate (138,55,13))

Ticket 1

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howdy, what is the reason of dragging the RD to dorms 4 to be sacked?
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:05:58
Sorry, HoP to the RD heretic.
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:06:58
no idea honestly, i just said we're going to dorms 4 because i wanted to hang out with them and then they said: [Common] Terry Quinn says, "Alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" so i just called alison over too
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:07:25
Alright, so don't try to use that as an excuse. The HoP did give consent to you dragging them away to dorms 4 as they thought you were going to show them something that you made? That was their assumption, don't aid in free sacks to which I am not okay with. You aren't antag and your life is not in danger or anything along those lines. I understand you are trying to help Alison, but dorms 4 is not the way and HoP wanted a duel against them, instead of a one sided affair.
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:18:18
I literally did not know they were an antag, the reason for dorms 4 was literally just to walk around with them, while walking the HoP sends that radio message so I decide to just go there and call for Alison, since that's what HoP decided to do. Once we got there Alison arrived shorly after, she looked at me and then us both got pepper sprayed by the HoP which then resulted into her being killed. The max I tried to do was pull her body away and ask if I could have it because 1. I do not know how to fight, 2. I'm lagged as hell, and 3. Alison was armed.
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:24:24
I literally did not know they were an antag. What do you mean? Where you not listening to HoP, stating that they were crippled and their brain damage was because of alison? the coms called was on alison as well. I assume you knew?
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:27:19
Not an excuse but not really, the only thing that I knew was that there was something going on about Alison. And even if I had not called Alison this situation was going to happen, since the HoP called called her before, again:#[Common] Terry Quinn says, "Alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk".
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:31:04
okay, mind sticking around next round?
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:33:25
Yeah sure.
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:33:37
Closed by Iansdoor
iansdoor ➡ Admins
2024-03-29T19:35:33

Ticket 2

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Are we continuing that talk about last round Iansdoor?
myraowo ➡ Admins
2024-03-29T19:42:03
We are. give me a moment, still discussing what I give you as a note. Now, there is the issue of your lack of care of the HoP and attention seeking to Alison. You can always have friends, but you can't be helping folks with their objectives for poor reason.
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:48:00
Iansdoor/(Iansdoor) has created a note for MyraowoAs a non-antag, dragged a heretic's target into a situation where they were sacrificed to them for poor reasoning.
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T19:48:32
I honestly don't get how being friends changes anything here. If person X says over radio "Hey Y, come to my current location" and then I follow by saying "Yeah Y!! You should totally come to X's current location!" and it ends up on Y murdering X, how would me saying (or not saying) anything here have changed the outcome? I didn't help Alison do anything, not even indirectly, she was called by the HoP, while I was also hanging out with the HoP. What ended up happening after was completely out of my hands.
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:58:54
The logs told me you dragged them from medical to dorms 4, three whole times. Then the conversation of you and the HoP lead to you calling out on coms for alison to come to dorms 4 and so she did. Do you understand that?
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T20:01:08
Also asking alison, why did you bolt the door two times in a row if you were trying to help against the heretic?
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T20:03:54
I have to admit that this was just an error of mine, I was blinded and pressed the bolt button for some reason (while the door was bolted open) so I pressed it again to try and keep it bolted open, but the door closed too fast, which made me bolt it closed. And as I already said, I was not trying to help the HoP or the Heretic while the fight happened since I could not have helped either for reasons stated before.
myraowo ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T20:10:52
That is not a good enough reason for you to do that as medical doctor. That is meta-friending. I'll just end the ticket here as this is going in circles without you understanding the issue of that.
iansdoor ➡ myraowo
2024-03-29T20:14:15
Resolved by Iansdoor
iansdoor ➡ Admins
2024-03-29T20:17:23

[iansdoor]

I was HOP.
Yeah she had nothing to do with the thing between alison and me since I already called alison to dorms 4 long before she did. As myraowo said she called me to dorms 4 to hang out and I was the one who called alison there so personally I don't think there is anything about her helping the heretic here

I am not sure how to clarify your position. I do appreciate you posting on their behalf. Do you wish for me to release your ticket as well for the full story?

[munchyii]

I was HOP.
Yeah she had nothing to do with the thing between alison and me since I already called alison to dorms 4 long before she did. As myraowo said she called me to dorms 4 to hang out and I was the one who called alison there so personally I don't think there is anything about her helping the heretic here

I am not sure how to clarify your position. I do appreciate you posting on their behalf. Do you wish for me to release your ticket as well for the full story?

i hope i quoted right (first time foruming), yeah that would be nice too! If i remember correctly I said, I thought she was gonna show something and she had my consent, since I wanted to face off alison anyways, but without brain damage would be good(dont remember might be wrong).
I think maybe this caused a misunderstandig? After reading the logs and as much as I can remember I don't think there was malicious intent on her behalf. I was acting kinda suicidal and dumb since I couldn't see anything and all those crazy stuff happening. Also I called alison to dorms 4 after myra said lets go there right, thats why I don't think she intended to help alison.
Oh! about the brain damage fix thing, I didn't ask for help so maybe she thought I didnt want that idk. At that point I just wantd to get it over with Alison die or kill (WISH I HAD A TTV WITH ME IT WOULD BE HELLA FUNNY) and died :skull:

P.S
I aint no glazing but hoooly shit the care is insane last server i played i got banned 14 days nothing explained appreciate your work here

[iansdoor]

If i remember correctly I said, I thought she was gonna show something and she had my consent, since I wanted to face off alison anyways, but without brain damage would be good(dont remember might be wrong).
I think maybe this caused a misunderstandig? After reading the logs and as much as I can remember I don't think there was malicious intent on her behalf. I was acting kinda suicidal and dumb since I couldn't see anything and all those crazy stuff happening.
Oh! about the brain damage fix thing, I didn't ask for help so maybe she thought I didnt want that idk. At that point I just wantd to get it over with Alison die or kill (WISH I HAD A TTV WITH ME IT WOULD BE HELLA FUNNY) and died

to mirror your ticket.

When you were in medical, she pulled you as you were talking about alison giving you brain damage alot with grasp. (which you need manntiol or brain surgery to fix the grasp damage) she then pulled you again a few more times till you both made it to dorms 4 to which she called out to the heretic for them to come and get you. Were you okay with that?
iansdoor ➡ munchyii
2024-03-29T19:13:40
yeah it was okay I thought she was gonna show something she made it had my consent
munchyii ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:14:28
to be honest wanted to face off with her anyways but without brain damage would be better
munchyii ➡ iansdoor

At no point, did you say you were okay with the dragged to certain doom other than the ticket. The dorms 4 was not your initial idea. Do you understand where I am coming from that interaction?

Rather the question or misunderstanding "yeah. it was okay, I thought she was gonna show something she made, it had my consent." What was she trying to show you?

Also I called alison to dorms 4 after myra said lets go there right, thats why I don't think she intended to help alison.

Maybe you can fill in this for me from your point of view.

You tell them dorms 4 out of the blue. actual no context there.
18:58:45.778 SAY: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) "dorms 4" (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
18:58:46.835 EMOTE: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) points at Terry Quinn (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
>You begin dragging them away from medical as they are untreated and had just died few moments ago. I understand that you may not have known that.
18:58:53.044] ATTACK: Myraowo/(Lola Heart) grabbed Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Medbay Central (90,92,2))
>both of you get caught in Vortex that is pulling folks
>You begin to drag them once more
>Iconic "alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" is said on coms
18:59:59.961 SAY: Munchyii/(Terry Quinn) "alison lets handle this like 2 adults come to dorms 4 we will talk" (Central Primary Hallway (88,118,2))
>You ask "what did she do this time"
>HoP replies "she is heretic"

Could you clarify that up for me?

This is your ticket for reference.

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howdy there, were you meaning to be dragged into dorms 4 by lola heart?
iansdoor ➡ munchyii
2024-03-29T19:11:32
uhh can you reform your sentence I didnt get what you mean
munchyii ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:11:56
When you were in medical, she pulled you as you were talking about alison giving you brain damage alot with grasp. (which you need manntiol or brain surgery to fix the grasp damage) she then pulled you again a few more times till you both made it to dorms 4 to which she called out to the heretic for them to come and get you. Were you okay with that?
iansdoor ➡ munchyii
2024-03-29T19:13:40
yeah it was okay I thought she was gonna show something she made it had my consent
munchyii ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:14:28
to be honest wanted to face off with her anyways but without brain damage would be better
munchyii ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:14:44
Alright. just checking.
iansdoor ➡ munchyii
2024-03-29T19:15:06
thanks admeme! love ya
munchyii ➡ iansdoor
2024-03-29T19:15:18
Have a good evening!
iansdoor ➡ munchyii
2024-03-29T19:18:33
Resolved by Iansdoor
iansdoor ➡ Admins
2024-03-29T19:18:57

[munchyii]

Hmm okay let me try to explain what was in my mind and fill you in as much as I can from my POV.
So this was after I got sacrficied and came back from hel iirc. I don't really remember much sorry bout that.
Lets come to point where lola saw me and said dorms 4, lola chills with people in shifts usually so I thought she had something to show or do and was okay with it <- this is why I didnt mention getting dragged without saying anything in my ticket, since I thought we were gonna do something and she is usually chill, which I believe we would hang out if I hadnt called alison to there. (think of this like just accepting it without questioning)
She starts to pull me (I was not waiting for medical attention or anything at that moment, since I was managing to walk with what I had and I believe I was walking out of medical when she pointed at me and pulled), I tell alison to come as well so we can do a final standoff since im fed up with this mind breaking stuff.
After I get out of the wormholes I look for lola again since we were just going to dorms 4 (I also thought alison was just waiting there after calling her).
Then she keeps dragging me there and I am okay with it since we are just continuing what we were doing before.

>>yeah it was okay I thought she was gonna show something she made it had my consent
Here I meant hanging out with showing something, but I called alison there so we couldnt really do anything.

>>to be honest wanted to face off with her anyways but without brain damage would be better
This is just me malding about the moon path stuns and not being able to get a fair fight.

It might be hard to understand as a observer what happened but it was really just me getting out med looking for alison, lola seeing me and pulling me to infamous dorms 4, me calling alison to there as well, we get there and I get moon stunned by alison and killed. This was my POV.

About the place where lola said ALİSON COME QUICK QUICK IN etc. etc. I think she was too excited? idk lol. The reason I don't think that she was helping her is it was me who decided to follow lola to dorms 4, it was me who called alison to dorms 4.

[iansdoor]

Alright, its been 5 days.
I am going to close this up.