[dorsidwarf]zenek123 - bullshit permanent ban

[zenek]

Byond account and character name:Zenek123
Banning admin:dorsidwarf
Ban type (What are you banned from?):server ban
Ban reason and length:Banbaiting - ran around slapping people in medbay down with his baton, then ahelped when shot by the chemist and said he was attacked for no reason.In light of previous issues and the "on last warning" note , a permanent ban has been issued.This is a permanent ban.
Time ban was placed (including time zone):2016-11-29 19:56:14
Your side of the story:I was in medbay , it was the last round , with Sniper Rifles instead of ids ,i got shot TWICE killing me , i just stunned a few people , that doesn't make me valid to kill.
Why you think you should be unbanned:Rule 1 precedents, second point:
Acceptable escalation is defined as not using an excessive amount of force to control a situation. Proportionate retribution is defined as a relatively equal amount of force applied to someone in revenge for an earlier attack. Multiple factors are considered here, including but not limited to methods of force available to the involved players, who instigated the conflict and why, the state/general situation of the station, how the players involved end up. Excessive escalation or retribution, depending on the situation, may result in admin intervention, to warnings, to bans.

[onleavedontatme]

Everyone on the station spawned with the dumb snipers

You went around hitting those people at random

Those people shot you

You adminhelped complaining you got killed and it wasn't until PMing other people that it turns out you were starting shit

You have a history of doing stuff like this and you haven't learned

[zenek]

This wasn't really random , also the fact that i did stun a few people because they were all disarming each other and trying to get a sniper rifle from someone doesn't make me valid.

[zenek]

Also , i wasn't just shot for stunning i was killed.

[Shaps-cloud]

Lying to admins and banbaiting is bad no matter what

[zenek]

How was ahelping after getting critted FOR STUNNING banbaiting?

[CPTANT]

Can we please get it straight that having THREE rounds with sniper rifles instead of Id's was complete garbage in the first place.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Can we please get it straight that having THREE rounds with sniper rifles instead of Id's was complete garbage in the first place.

Maybe you should take that up with shadowlight who merged it in the first fucking place and went AFK you collossal twat.

How was ahelping after getting critted FOR STUNNING banbaiting?

You adminhelped that you'd been shot to death for no reason.
Upon investigation, it turns out that you were going around batoning and chainstunning people for no reason in the lobby, so the chemist shot you for being a twit, putting you at minus seven hp, at which point someone brought to into medbay and you ahelped.

WHY ARE WE BANNING PEOPLE FOR MEMEING DURING ADMIN MEME ROUNDS

This was not a "freekill round everything go reee", Goof, this was after the first round and people had all been repeatedly informed that just because shadowlight griffed the codebase doesn't mean the station were antags.
Second, he wasnt "banned for memeing", he was banned for starting fights then ahelping that he'd been killed when critted, while on a final "bin him if he does anything wrong" warning.
Thirdly what happened to the peanut gallery rules.

[TehSteveo]

It wasn't an admin event. It was a PR that got testmerged that should not have been test merged while the person who had done so is not on the server to at least have accountability for their actions.

As such; rules are not thrown out the window unless we give the go ahead for the round.

[zenek]

Well , there were many people disarming each other for a sniper rifle , i of course were stunning them because i don't want to get shot in the head.Stunning people doesn't make me valid to kill , right?

[TehSteveo]

Well , there were many people disarming each other for a sniper rifle , i of course were stunning them because i don't want to get shot in the head.Stunning people doesn't make me valid to kill , right?

You stunning buncha people during spasstic disarm fights made someone shoot you for being dumb. They don't end up killing you but crit you and they take you to medbay at which point you ahelp the situation. If you didn't try to get admins involved chances are you would have walked away fine and well after learning maybe not to start shit; but instead you felt your actions were not warranted enough to have people respond to being chain-stunned.

[zenek]

Okay , i see why it could be concidered banbaiting.I am just used to hippie ruleset where critting from the admins viewpoint is pretty much the same as critting.Sorry about that.I won't do it again.

[Shaps-cloud]

I am just used to hippie ruleset where critting from the admins viewpoint is pretty much the same as critting

What did he mean by this?

[Wyzack]

Critting the same as killing I assume

[Okand37]

I think this is about resolved so I'll go ahead and shuffle this on over to resolved. Have a nice day!