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Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Quey » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:56 pm #2779

Your byond account: Quey
Your character name: Jayce Wible (random, but kinda cool)
Their character name: Scott Osterweis
Their byond account(optional, but useful if you can provide it): I don't know, but I've seen the character name before so it's probably his normal name
Server and time: Artyom around 3PM Pacific
Logs and/or screenshots:
Spoiler:
Robusticus [Security] says, "Lawyer has Combat Mech"
Scott Osterweis [Security] says, "I made this mech"
Kurt Voss [145.9] exclaims, "Thanks for coming to help guys!"
You put the seclite into the security belt.
ÿ! Squeek!
Saiga Pishuaipiao [145.9] says, "DURAND HOSTILE"
*---------*
This is Airica Zen!
She is wearing a sombrero on her head.
She is wearing some black shoes on her feet.
She has a sunglasses covering her eyes.
She has a radio headset on her ears.
She is severely malnourished.
She has a vacant, braindead stare...
Criminal status: [Incarcerated]
*---------*
Robusticus [Security] says, "Lawyer has attacked people with Heavy Weapons"
Adam Jensen [145.9] asks, "What exosuit AI?"
Jayce Wible [Security] asks, "Where did the ninja go?"
Jayce Wible asks, "Where did the ninja go?"
Holden Sidower [Security] says, "Ninja vanished somewhere"
Daniel Mac Namara says, "okey"
Adam Jensen [145.9] says, "I can stop it"
That's Terminus.
Autonomous Power Loader Unit. The workhorse of the exosuit world.
It's fully intact.
It's equipped with:
the hydraulic clamp
the drill
the wormhole generator
Daniel Mac Namara says, "open the awy"
RED BARON raises the ÿHoNkER BlAsT 5000
Holden Sidower [Security] says, "Fall back to Escape."
Terminus starts to drill the floor
Baron Von Honk [145.9] says, "KUDZU"
Terminus starts to drill the space vines
Baron Von Honk [145.9] says, "RELEASE THE PETEKRAKEN"
Kenzie Smith says, "Thanks"
Kiera Smail hugs Kenzie Smith to make her feel better!
Terminus starts to drill the space vines
That's RED BARON.
Produced by "Tyranny of Honk, INC", this exosuit is designed as heavy clown-support. Used to spread the fun and joy of life. HONK!
It's fully intact.
It's equipped with:
the ÿHoNkER BlAsT 5000
the ÿPBT "Pacifier" mounted taser
the banana mortar
Ridley Oppenheimer puts the mining drill into the bag of holding.
Saiga Pishuaipiao has analyzed Lana Adams's vitals!
Tames Chaylor asks, "Is it possible to ride in the cargo unit in that?"
Saiga Pishuaipiao has analyzed Lana Adams's vitals!
Ridley Oppenheimer says, "fucking great"
RED BARON raises the banana mortar
Alfred Keplin [Security] says, "Get to the shuttle, Ninja is not an issue right now."
Kurt Voss puts the collectable slime hat into the satchel.
Jayce Wible says, "Do NOT blast that horn"
Kenzie Smith says, "woop[s"
Saiga Pishuaipiao has been hit by the banana peel.
Kenzie Smith says, "Thaks"
Lana Adams examines herself.
Hunter Hyde has been hit by the banana peel.
Priority Announcement


The Emergency Shuttle has docked with the station. You have 3 minutes to board the Emergency Shuttle.


Saiga Pishuaipiao starts to apply the the bruise pack on Lana Adams...
Kenzie Smith hugs Holden Sidower to make him feel better!
Ridley Oppenheimer [145.9] says, " someone get pete to escape"
Hunter Hyde attempted to disarm Saiga Pishuaipiao!
Terminus raises the wormhole generator
OOC: Opheuse: wow
Saiga Pishuaipiao gasps!
RED BARON raises the ÿHoNkER BlAsT 5000
That's a floor.
ÿ!Kenzie Smith buckles in!
ÿ!Hunter Hyde buckles in!
Robusticus [Security] says, "Durand Is Hostile"
Alfred Keplin [Security] says, "Got it."
Robusticus [Security] says, "Shoot on sight"
Scott Osterweis [Security] says, "Self Defence"
Holden Sidower [Security] says, "Respectfully, nothing I can do about it."
ÿ!Daniel Mac Namara buckles in!
ÿ!Ridley Oppenheimer buckles in!
HONK
Daniel Mac Namara talks but you cannot hear them.
N.A.M.E. talks but you cannot hear them.
You cannot hear yourself!
Kenzie Smith talks but you cannot hear them.
N.A.M.E. talks but you cannot hear them.
Baron Von Honk talks but you cannot hear them.
Alfred Keplin puts the mateba into the security satchel.
Tames Chaylor starts to apply the the bruise pack on himself...
The ÿemergency medibot has been hit by Lana Adams with the health analyzer.
Tames Chaylor starts to apply the the bruise pack on himself...
Kenzie Smith talks but you cannot hear them.
You fire the ion rifle!
The RED BARON armor deflects the projectile
You fire the ion rifle!
The RED BARON armor deflects the projectile
You fire the ion rifle!
The RED BARON armor deflects the projectile
Hunter Hyde presses a button on the ÿNuclear Fission Explosive toy
Baron Von Honk talks but you cannot hear them.
Alfred Keplin fires the energy gun!
Baron Von Honk is hit by an electrode in the head!
Kenzie Smith hugs Daniel Mac Namara to make him feel better!
Alfred Keplin puts the energy gun into the security satchel.
Baron Von Honk talks but you cannot hear them.
Robusticus talks but you cannot hear them.
Tames Chaylor starts to apply the the bruise pack on himself...
Alfred Keplin is trying to put handcuffs on Baron Von Honk!
Suess Isyde Soucumm talks but you cannot hear them.
Baron Von Honk has been stunned with the stunbaton by Holden Sidower!
ÿ!Adam Jensen starts to climb into Terminus
Ridley Oppenheimer talks but you cannot hear them.
Tames Chaylor starts to apply the the bruise pack on himself...
Holden Sidower puts the stunbaton into the security belt.
Ward Robertson examines himself.
ÿ!Suess Isyde Soucumm buckles in!
You put the handcuffs into the security belt.
Baron Von Honk stammers, "you'al-ll-l-l-l ar-r-re f-full-l o n-no un-n"
ÿ!Baron Von Honk is buckled in to the chair by Alfred Keplin!
Kenzie Smith says, "Nice"
Scott Osterweis [145.9] says, "Rip Baron"
Kenzie Smith says, "I said"
Jayce Wible says, "YOU FUCK"
Baron Von Honk says, "Fuckers"
Jayce Wible says, "I WARNED YOU"
Scott Osterweis [145.9] says, "We hardley knew thee"
Kenzie Smith says, "FUCKING IDIOT HOP"
Tames Chaylor pries the canister [Air] from the ÿH.O.N.K wreckage.
Baron Von Honk asks, "me fuck?"
N.A.M.E. states, "warden"
Baron Von Honk has been hit in the chest with the ion rifle by Jayce Wible!
Daniel Mac Namara says, "oh"
Jayce Wible says, "SHUT THE FUCK UP"
Daniel Mac Namara says, "makes more sense"
N.A.M.E. states, "the durand is in the emergency recovery area"
Kenzie Smith says, "Shes a dumb cunt for letting that clown in science"
Baron Von Honk [145.9] says, "BROOTALITY"
Baron Von Honk says, "BROOTALITY"
ÿHunter Hyde has thrown the photo.
Jayce Wible tries to remove Baron Von Honk's radio headset.
Kiera Smail unbuckled !
Jayce Wible tries to remove Baron Von Honk's Giggles von Honkerton.
ÿ!Kiera Smail buckles in!
Baron Von Honk says, "Re=mvonf"
You try to empty Baron Von Honk's left pocket.
You try to empty Baron Von Honk's right pocket.
ÿHunter Hyde has thrown the photo.
Kenzie Smith says, "Because they dont want the clown to bother them"
Baron Von Honk says, "Took my headste"
Ward Robertson says, "Holy shit that gun is sexy"
Daniel Mac Namara says, "Head of Personel gave her access"
ÿHunter Hyde has thrown the photo.
Robusticus has been hit by the photo.
Baron Von Honk says, "Warden confirmed for hitler"
Kiera Smail unbuckled !
Hunter Hyde unbuckled !
Jayce Wible says, "YOU HAVE BEEN PUSHING ME ALL SHIFT"
Baron Von Honk attempts to unbuckle themself!
Jayce Wible tries to remove Baron Von Honk's PDA-Baron Von Honk (Clown).
Baron Von Honk asks, "what?"
Baron Von Honk says, "I have seen you twice"
Baron Von Honk (as Unknown) says, "oh sorry"
Kiera Smail puts the kitty ears into the leather satchel.
ÿ!Jakob Andrews buckles in!
Baron Von Honk (as Unknown) says, "I sawy you at shift start and BROUGHT YOU DONUTS"
Unknown puts the black skirt into the leather satchel.
Jakob Andrews puts the wooden plank into the satchel.
Jayce Wible blinds Unknown with the flash!
Priority Announcement


The Emergency Shuttle has left the station. Estimate 2 minutes until the shuttle docks at Central Command.


ÿthe ÿemergency medibot is trying to inject Daniel Mac Namara!
Jakob Andrews unbuckled !
ÿthe ÿemergency medibot injects Daniel Mac Namara with the syringe!
Unknown unbuckled !
The ÿemergency medibot beeps, "All patched up!"
Baron Von Honk (as Unknown) says, "halp me"
The ÿemergency medibot beeps, "You appear to be injured!"
The ÿemergency medibot points at Jakob Andrews!
Jayce Wible says, "AND SINCE THEN YOU'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT SHIT"
Kenzie Smith hugs Holden Sidower to make him feel better!
Robusticus fires the taser gun!
ÿLana Adams has been stunned by Officer Beepsky!
Unknown hugs Jakob Andrews to make him feel better!
ÿOfficer Beepsky is trying to put handcuffs on Lana Adams!
Baron Von Honk (as Unknown) asks, "what?"
This is an ion rifle. It is a huge item.
A man portable anti-armor weapon designed to disable mechanical threats
Daniel Mac Namara sighs.
Holden Sidower puts the stunbaton into the security belt.
Baron Von Honk (as Unknown) says, "has not"
Jakob Andrews attempts to feed Tames Chaylor the misc Condiment Bottle (Jakob's Freaky Sauce).
N.A.M.E. states, "Please refrain from harm"
Valerie Sinnet says, "Jayce."
Jakob Andrews feeds Tames Chaylor the misc Condiment Bottle (Jakob's Freaky Sauce).
Holden Sidower says, "You killed the Head of Sec's pet."
Ward Robertson says, "You killed my pet"
Valerie Sinnet says, "Rifle, down here. Now."
Jakob Andrews attempts to feed Holden Sidower the misc Condiment Bottle.
Holden Sidower says, "Duh."
Jakob Andrews feeds Holden Sidower the misc Condiment Bottle.
Kenzie Smith asks, "Who brought beepsky?"
*---------*
This is Valerie Sinnet!
She is wearing a captain's jumpsuit with a medal of captaincy.
She is wearing a captain's hat on her head.
She has a captain's backpack on her back.
She has some captain's gloves on her hands.
She has an energy gun about her waist.
She is wearing some jackboots on her feet.
She has Health Scanner HUD covering her eyes.
She has ÿthe captain's headset on her ears.
She is wearing PDA-Valerie Sinnet (Captain).
Criminal status: [None]
*---------*
Saiga Pishuaipiao says, "Warden the mech is here"
Saiga Pishuaipiao says, "HELP"
Ward Robertson twitches violently.
Kenzie Smith says, "Shuttle griefffff beepsky here"
Unknown props their feet on the monitor.
Valerie Sinnet says, "The mech is in there."
Scott Osterweis says, "MAI RIGHTS"
That's MAI RIGHTS.
An aging combat exosuit utilized by the Nanotrasen corporation. Originally developed to combat hostile alien lifeforms.
It's fully intact.
It's equipped with:
the ÿUltra AC 2
the energy relay
the ÿCH-LC "Solaris" laser cannon
Hunter Hyde examines himself.
*---------*
This is Art Young!
They are wearing an ancient hardsuit helmet on their head.
They are wearing an ancient hardsuit.
They are carrying an oxygen tank on their ancient hardsuit.
They have a backpack on their back.
They are holding an oxygen tank in their left hand.
They have a janibelt about their waist.
They are wearing PDA-Art Young (Janitor).
They have minor bruising.
Criminal status: [None]
*---------*
Alfred Keplin exclaims, "Go!"
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the left arm!
Your armor softens the blow!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Your armor softens the blow!
Valerie Sinnet says, "Shoot it, you dork."
MAI RIGHTS pushes Alfred Keplin out of the way.
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Art Young hits MAI RIGHTS with the oxygen tank.
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Art Young is hit by a bullet in the chest!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Unknown hugs Ridley Oppenheimer to make him feel better!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the chest!
Ridley Oppenheimer hits MAI RIGHTS with the mining drill.
The MAI RIGHTS armor deflects the projectile
The security radio headset overloads.
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Valerie Sinnet fires the ion rifle!
Alfred Keplin hits MAI RIGHTS with the mateba.
Alfred Keplin fires the mateba!
Saiga Pishuaipiao is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Alfred Keplin fires the mateba!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left arm!
Ridley Oppenheimer is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Valerie Sinnet is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Hunter Hyde is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Hunter Hyde is hit by a bullet in the head!
Hunter Hyde is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Valerie Sinnet is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Valerie Sinnet says, "Thanks."
Valerie Sinnet is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Valerie Sinnet is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Unknown fires the energy gun!
Saiga Pishuaipiao gasps!
Scott Osterweis says, "MAI RIGHTS"
Unknown fires the energy gun!
You hit MAI RIGHTS with the revolver.
You hit MAI RIGHTS with the revolver.
ÿThe the revolver bounces off MAI RIGHTS armor.
Unknown fires the energy gun!
You fire the revolver!
You fire the revolver!
Alfred Keplin examines himself.
You put the revolver into the security backpack.
Unknown shakes Valerie Sinnet trying to get her up!
Saiga Pishuaipiao gasps!
Hunter Hyde unbuckled !
Jayce Wible says, "FUCK"
Ridley Oppenheimer gasps!
Ridley Oppenheimer puts the mining drill into the bag of holding.
ÿ!Unknown buckles in!
Ridley Oppenheimer puts the box into the bag of holding.
Valerie Sinnet says, "That solves that."
N.A.M.E. (Played by: My_Cool_Name)'s laws at the end of the game were:
Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

The traitors were:
Samis was S.H.R.O.O.M (body destroyed)
Objective #1: Assassinate Ty Andrews, the Atmospheric Technician. Fail.
Objective #2: Stay alive until the end. Fail.
Objective #3: Do not allow any organic lifeforms to escape on the shuttle alive. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

Mandurrh was Kenzie Smith (survived) (used 0 TC)
Objective #1: Steal an unused sample of slime extract. Success!
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive. Success!
The traitor was successful!

Nebyab was Chip Simmons (survived) (used 3 TC)
Objective #1: Steal the captain's antique laser gun. Fail.
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive. Fail.
The traitor has failed!

R.Herring was Daniel Mac Namara (survived) (used 0 TC)
Objective #1: Steal a functional AI. Success!
Objective #2: Escape on the shuttle or an escape pod alive. Success!
The traitor was successful!

AlphaaBeta was Grandmaster Zero (survived)
Objective #1: Accumulate 10 capture points. It is better if they remain relatively unharmed. Fail.
Objective #2: Download 14 research levels. Success!
Objective #3: Nothing Fail.
Objective #4: Protect Jazmin Malcovich, the Head of Personnel, from harm. Success!
Objective #5: Stay alive until the end. Success!
Objective #6: Our honor is on the line. Utilize only honorable tactics when dealing with opponents. Fail.
The space ninja has failed!
Description of what happened: Long round, playing warden. Late in the round things start to pick up, server pop goes up dramatically. Shuttle gets called, and somehow the lawyer, Scott, who had relatively recently joined gets his hands on a durand, I believe. Pretty much immediately the screams come over radio:
Spoiler:
Robusticus [Security] says, "Lawyer has Combat Mech"
Scott Osterweis [Security] says, "I made this mech"
Kurt Voss [145.9] exclaims, "Thanks for coming to help guys!"
You put the seclite into the security belt.
ÿ! Squeek!
Saiga Pishuaipiao [145.9] says, "DURAND HOSTILE"
...
Robusticus [Security] says, "Lawyer has attacked people with Heavy Weapons"
Adam Jensen [145.9] asks, "What exosuit AI?"
I'm with a few officers trying to locate a hostile ninja, but he gets away and we run to escape. I'm carrying an ion rifle because a the clown with a HONK mech has been taunting myself and others in sec most of the round and recently started slipping officers. I warn the clown not to use the HONK BLAST, but soon after the shuttle takes off, he does and I blow the mech and take him into the prisoner room. That's when I get called to the cockpit where the durand is off to the right in the external access room. The durand is next to the doorway, everyone is yelling for help from the big mech, while Scott is yelling "MAI RIGHTS", which happens to be the name of the mech. I'm standing near the door and we can see each other. I hesitate, then I step in to try to take down the mech, and...
Spoiler:
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the left arm!
Your armor softens the blow!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Your armor softens the blow!
Valerie Sinnet says, "Shoot it, you dork."
MAI RIGHTS pushes Alfred Keplin out of the way.
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right leg!
Art Young hits MAI RIGHTS with the oxygen tank.
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Art Young is hit by a bullet in the chest!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Unknown hugs Ridley Oppenheimer to make him feel better!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left arm!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the left leg!
Alfred Keplin is hit by a bullet in the chest!
Ridley Oppenheimer hits MAI RIGHTS with the mining drill.
The MAI RIGHTS armor deflects the projectile
The security radio headset overloads.
Jayce Wible is hit by a bullet in the right arm!
Valerie Sinnet fires the ion rifle!
He shoots me over and over, along with other officers, making sure to shoot me again whenever I get up. Given the headset overload, it looks like someone had an EMP and that took out the mech, maybe in combination with a few ion shots after I dropped the gun and others took up the cause. Eventually the mech is destroyed, ending the long struggle.

Why they should be banned: If I've never seen a guy and he immediately takes the lethal route as non-antag when we first meet, something's wrong. He had plenty of time to see what I had. If the first I hear over the radio about this mech is that it's hostile, something's wrong. It's not like there was a good period of time he was wandering around being a good citizen, it was pretty close to 1. Get mech -> 2. Troll everyone. If someone names their destructive weapon the meme-y "MAI RIGHTS" and continues to shout it throughout the fight instead of "Wait, this is a misunderstanding, I surrender" or even "STOP!", something is really wrong. Was this guy out to have fun at others' expense? It seems so. Did he set out in the RP-heavy job of lawyer to have fun and make an interesting experience for all? No way. He's just suit-tiding.



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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Hornygranny » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:02 pm #2780

To be clear, you attacked his exosuit before he took hostile action?
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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Quey » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:14 pm #2783

He had been taking hostile action since before the shuttle arrived. Multiple sec officers and other staff reported over radio being attacked by the hostile durand. To be pedantic, what happened on MY first and only encounter with him was that I stood in the doorway with an ion gun, hesitated, ran in intending to shoot at the prodding of practically everyone in the shuttle cockpit shouting about the hostile durand, but got shot before I could get a shot off.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Hornygranny » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:18 pm #2786

I've directed him to this thread so we can hear his side of the story.
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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby KingLouisXIV » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:59 pm #2794

Scott had a Durand and was requesting a laser for it. I had been the CMO that round, the Captain decided to go braindead and promoted me as the last head of staff alive / around. I called the shuttle once we started hearing about a Ninja, and I assume Scott finished a mech (It had been started well before the Ninja had shown up) and was asking me to put a cannon on it when I was strolling around Science.

Figuring it was a ninja and he already sapped the levels out of the actual R&D machine, I queued up a laser and attached it. Unfortunately, he immediately went to escape and started blasting a couple of people with a machine gun. I ran to the Exosuit control to try and shut it down, but it wasn't attached - I think I instead EMP'd a Ripley by mistake. By the time I got back to Escape, the shuttle had docked and there was no sign of Scott or his Durand.

As we took off, somebody mentioned the Durand was in the side-room next to the cockpit (metastation shuttle) so we took a look and, surprise, he was sitting there in the mech renamed "MUH RIGHTS." I alerted the Warden since he had the ion rifle, and we stormed in to take it on. Unfortunately, he immediately shot down the Warden and his accompanying officer as soon as they got into range. I grabbed the rifle and got in a few shots of my own before Scott seemed to willingly waltz out the airlock.



All in all, Scott seemed uncooperative with Security when he was asked (Not even by the OP or myself, an officer named Robusticus I believe) to step out of the mech and let him tweak some controls on it. To be perfectly clear as well, he didn't once use the laser CANNON I actually attached to his mech, and just the cheap-o pea shooter machine gun. It's still toeing the line pretty damn close though, there's no reason to open fire on people with a mech as a non-antag who just aren't being hostile to you. If I recall correctly, the person he shot initally in Escape was Saiga herself.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Wizardjenkins66 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:27 am #2797

To begin with, I was requesting a taser and laser to deal with the hostile Ninja, As I had DNA locked the mech and 1 minutes left till the shuttle left I let the officer know that there was no time to unlock it as you gotta use the Maintence thing to remove the DNA lock. Whilst I was trying to enable the power relay the window selection changed and I accidentally fired the laser rifle but I saw it hit noone, Then security started hunting me and I fought back only in self defense, as I did not attack anyone who didn't draw a weapon and try to hit me.
Violaceus wrote:Mining smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to man- and lizard-kind. Katanas are thrice as sharp as eswords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything an esword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a durand mech with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why Syndicate never bothered conquering Mining? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined miners and their katanas of destruction.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Quey » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:51 am #2801

If you requested weapons, personal or mech, you did not request them over radio, sec or general. If you were hunting the ninja, you did not say so over radio. From what I saw, when security was after you full swing, the only thing you could do was
Scott Osterweis says, "MAI RIGHTS"
That's MAI RIGHTS.
An aging combat exosuit utilized by the Nanotrasen corporation. Originally developed to combat hostile alien lifeforms.
It's fully intact.
It's equipped with:
the ÿUltra AC 2
the energy relay
the ÿCH-LC "Solaris" laser cannon
...
Scott Osterweis says, "MAI RIGHTS"
...then after the round...
OOC: Wizardjenkins66: MAI RIGHTS
...
OOC: Wizardjenkins66: Mai Rights
...
OOC: Wizardjenkins66: Don't attack me first and I won't have to kill ya

IF it is true that you fired an accidental shot, then why didn't you go for the "my bad" or "it was an accident" or "please stop guys I'm trying to find the ninja" INSTEAD OF JUST SHOOTING AND SAYING "MAI RIGHTS"????

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby KingLouisXIV » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:12 am #2804

You -specifically- asked me for a laser, when I was there. Unfortunately I don't have logs. Nothing about a taser.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Tokiko2 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:35 am #2837

Saiga here. I walk into escape and I am immediatly shot with a heavy laser so I run behind that escape wall and yell out that the Durand is hostile. I attack it a few times but it simply walks away. Really, it seems to me that it was just a honest mistake and he tried to defuse the situation.

Sure, the shootout in the cockpit was a bit bad but keep in mind that there is no way to escape from there other than spacing yourself, he only started shooting after the warden walked in with an Ion Rifle and during combat he simply spaced himself instead trying to go for a kill. I don't actually know about the mech weapons and how much damage the bullets did but I don't think anyone in the cockpit was fatally injured from that fight either.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Hornygranny » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:54 am #2839

[15:02:23]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Scott Osterweis(wizardjenkins66) shot Saiga Pishuaipiao(tokiko1) with The heavy laser
[15:02:34]SAY: Saiga Pishuaipiao/Tokiko1 : WOAH
[15:02:41]SAY: Saiga Pishuaipiao/Tokiko1 : DURAND HOSTILE
[15:02:38]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Scott Osterweis(wizardjenkins66) shot Daniel Mac Namara(rherring) with The bullet</font>

If that was the stray shot that hit Saiga, did the situation really escalate to the point where you were shooting other people with a different gun in 16 seconds?
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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Quey » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:02 pm #2997

Froom what it sounds like he never honestly tried to find the ninja. It seems so, since as I said I was chasing the ninja when called over sec radio, which Scott had access to. If he had showed up as well to the ninja sighting, that would show that we was trying to assist the crew, but instead he's shooting multiple people instead of communicating.

Wiz, when you're in a mech of that caliber, you are in no immediate danger and have no reason to attack crew lethal weapons. The sec officers were outfitted with standard gear as I had just been packing up the armory with the acting HoS before getting called to the ninja, and everything was accounted for. Since you shot someone with the laser cannon, heck, just because you were firing a lethal weapon "accidentally" on station is enough to warrant sec attention. If you think that warrants lethal response to sec in some sort of "self defense" that is a really shitty move. At the least you were escalating WAY too quickly, and at the most you were actively griefing and baiting sec. Again, I'm going to have to go with the latter due to your spamming of "MAI RIGHTS" in both IC and OOC.

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Re: Scott Osterweis - Shooting security because mech

Postby Hornygranny » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:01 pm #3008

I'm pretty satisfied from the evidence presented thus far that this was improperly escalated by Wiz. Even if the first shot was an accident and you get attacked, it's really not appropriate to shit on the crew this way. Unless he has anything else to say about the matter, I'm going to apply a short ban.
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