Howdy - Griefing chemist

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Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by invisty » #100330

Your byond account: Invisty
Your character name: Jaydon Raub
Their character name:Howdy (Chemist)
Server and time: Sybil, round ending 11:30 UTC approx 2 hours long.
Logs and/or screenshots: See below.
Description of what happened: Handed out absurd quantities of space lube to the crew, particularly the clown and mime, resulting in frequent spates of lubed up corridors. Injected choral (and potentially other) toxins into the chef's food. Threw lube grenade(s) around. These events took place for the majority of the round duration, starting pretty early on and right up to the point where we finally busted the guy doing it. He was pretty subtle, making sure to cover his tracks most of the way, and sec were in general far too busy dealing with antagonists to cope with catching the guy red-handed. No admins were online at the time of the slippening.

Why they should be banned: Obvious shitler because no admins were online.

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You slipped!
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Lube."
Jaydon Raub says, "Lube."
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Lube."
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "LUBE."
Jaydon Raub says, "LUBE."
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "LUBE."
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "GET HOWDY."
Jaydon Raub says, "GET HOWDY."
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "GET HOWDY."
[Security] Millian MacTavish (Head of Security) says, "Where."
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Outside medbay"
Jaydon Raub says, "Outside medbay"
Jaydon Raub says, "Mime"
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Mime"
Jaydon Raub says, "Halt"
Jaydon Raub says, "You have no lube on you, right"
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "You have no lube on you, right"
You try to empty Marcel Mime's left pocket.
 The solution begins to bubble.
The solution spews out foam!
You slipped!
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "ESCAPE HALL."
Jaydon Raub says, "ESCAPE HALL."
Jaydon Raub says, "Ill let that slide, mime. Theres a few floating around"
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Ill let that slide, mime. Theres a few floating around"
You slipped!
[Common] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Massive lube patch outside medical."
Jaydon Raub says, "Massive lube patch outside medical."
[Common] Jaydon Raub says, "Massive lube patch outside medical."
You slipped!
[Common] Trey Cowart (Bartender) slurs, "WHO"
[Security] Jaydon Raub (Detective) says, "Howdy was last seen near escape"
Jaydon Raub says, "Howdy was last seen near escape"
Medibot says, "Hey, Jaydon Raub! Hold on, I'm coming."
Medibot is trying to inject you!
Medibot injects you with its syringe!
[Common] Gordon Archibald (Botanist) says, "Hey mime"
C.L.E.A.N. makes an excited beeping booping sound!
Howdy says, "I LUBE I DIE I LUBE AGAIN"
You extend the baton.
Jaydon Raub has knocked down Howdy with the telescopic baton!
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Grazyn
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Grazyn » #100340

I was observing and I saw him pda message the clown asking to come back for more lube
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Unclechuckus » #100344

I played the chef, Garrett Blaine, in this round. I had a cooperative botanist, so I was stacking the kitchen counter with loads of cakes, breads and such. Anyway, later on in the round, the barkeep collapses into crit right in front of me after eating a slice of cake off the bench due to toxins damage, causing me to clear the food table several times. Sometime after this, I noticed Howdy the chemist coming and taking food, then putting it back. Sure enough when I grinded a donut he'd brought back it was chock-full of chloral hydrate. Unfortunately I had to go braindead soon after this.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Eaglendia » #100353

Millian MacTavish, officer turned HoS here. Caught Howdy headed to the bar with pockets full of chloral hydrate beakers. When I emptied them, he left in a hurry, leading me to believe he probably wasn't there for a drink; earlier in the round he'd been handing out lube to the clown and mime, and as people were already wounded I recall having to save at least one person who got knocked into crit from repeated lube damage. He was hiding out from Security in a locker after lubing the halls when the shuttle was due to arrive, and had another lube grenade in his backpack; we brigged him on the shuttle to find out he wasn't antag.

while shuttle brigged he said something to the effect of "I LUBE, I DIE, I LUBE AGAIN" which was pretty fucking funny, but this isn't the first round I've played with this guy where he's been generally shitty/griefed as Chemist, and I'm pretty sure it's all he plays. perhaps a job ban might be in order?
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by DrunkenMatey » #100354

I also saw him cooking up formaldehyde and such... but i figured he was a fellow antag so i didn't tell anyone.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by NikNakFlak » #100479

Investigating into this currently.
As invisity said, he was not an antag that round.
I see all the comments about lube and see him tossing a few grenades which I assume were also lube. I also saw a comment about him saying "all food makes you sleepy" which I can only assume it was the chloral he put in.
In this particular case, testimony is more useful to me than logs. With that in mind, I've already permabanned him pointing to this thread (because the flagging system is awful still and I can't even use it if someone isn't online.)
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by tedward1337 » #100487

Was this done over multiple rounds as well? Or just this one?
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by NikNakFlak » #100491

I think he gives out lube a lot from what I've seen but this looks like it was just once. We'll see if he replies here.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by invisty » #100521

tedward1337 wrote:Was this done over multiple rounds as well? Or just this one?
I don't think I played the round before, but there was no "Howdy" or griffon chemists on the server for the following round.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by kevinz000 » #100526

HoS who went braindead here
Anyways there was a bit of a.... uproar over an officer who possessed syndicate poisons
Everyone wanted him dead and accused him of poisoning prisoners
A few people who were brigged nearly died of poisoning. One ate a piece of cake that he brought them. I'm pretty sure someone scanned them and said they had formaldehyde and stuff in them.
I didn't think the chef's food was poisoned at the moment because I grinded some and nothing poisonous showed up.
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Post by newfren » #100564

tedward1337 wrote:Was this done over multiple rounds as well? Or just this one?

Regarding this: I've definitely seen Howdy dicking around making death patches called "Synthflesh (10u)" and what-not and leaving them on the chemistry desk before as a non-antag, but I don't have logs or remember the date. At the time I had assumed an admin had talked to him.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by tedward1337 » #100565

Thanks. Ill give a look into this to see if its repeated behavior
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Wyzack » #100587

I seem to recall a chemist named Howdy being shit on Basil the other day, but i was distracted by other things that round
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Howdydoody » #100670

ok to answer a few things

-yes this was a one time thing

- i did put 5 units chloral hydrate in some food items nothing more and the formaldehyde i was making Pentetic Acid but before i made it i was tased and the beaker with formaldehyde was left on the floor while i was taken to the brig i asked to let me finish the Pentetic Acid but they said no

-i didnt had out lube to just anyone only to my champion at the given time.(first the clown then the mime)

-for most of the round i was doing my job handing out chemicals and making medicine for the station while being stopped and handcuffed multiple times by sec and the detective
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Post by rdght91 » #100798

Howdydoody wrote:while being stopped and handcuffed multiple times by sec and the detective
I like how you say that implying that security is being unreasonable in response to you making lethal and annoying chemicals and distributing them all over the station.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Howdydoody » #100841

nothing i made was lethal at worst it was annoying
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Post by NikNakFlak » #100854

Chloral is lethal.
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Post by rdght91 » #100861

Howdydoody wrote:nothing i made was lethal at worst it was annoying
False.
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Post by Howdydoody » #100863

at 30 units it is not at 1 to 5 units i was very careful to make sure the things i did were non lethal and with the total amount of Chloral i used it was impossible for someone to die from it
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Cik » #100876

i only gave them a small amount of lethal poison as a nonantag :^)
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Post by Howdydoody » #100886

yes now we get to look at the list of things that are lethal at high doses

-sugar
-Calomel
-Omnizine lethal at 30 units
-Salicyclic Acid lethal at 25 units
-Atropine lethal at 35 units
-Synthflesh on ingestion, deals toxin damage.
-Styptic Powder on ingestion, deals toxin damage.
-Silver Sulfadiazine on ingestion, deals toxin damage.
-Ephedrine lethal at 45 units
-Morphine lethal at 30 units
-Epinephrine lethal at 30 units
-Chloral Hydrate lethal at 30 units

so based a previous replies since something can kill you at high doses means unless you're antag you shouldn't even considers using/making any of these because they can be lethal

another thing the only way someone could have been killed by my chloral is if they ate all the food before the chef got rid of it and waited till i came back to put more on, which didnt happen.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by duncathan » #100917

Chloral Hydrate is a toxin alone. Giving people medicine as non-antag is fine, because its purpose is to heal them. If it doesn't do that, it may not be your fault.
Chloaral Hydrate, on the other hand, is exclusively for hurting people. Its purpose is to harm. These are very different things, man.
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Post by Howdydoody » #100922

why is everyone missing the point it is only lethal at 30 units and only when it does go over it kills you it doesn't do damage, also chloral isnt a toxin it is a sedative. to add to the list i didnt use 30 units of the stuff
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Post by kevinz000 » #100926

How is everyone else "missing the point" when YOU'RE making and distributing toxins as a non-antag?
Regardless of how much you put, chloral hydrate will knock you out, making people who eat food extremely vulnerable to attack when all they wanted was a snack
By doing this you could just get the chef in trouble because people might think he's the one screwing with the food
And if the halls are completely lubed up, it will do damage to people who slip and impede everyone's ability to play the game.

I fail to see how we're the ones missing the point.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by NikNakFlak » #100928

I have to agree with everyone else here. You won't be getting any server time but I have issued a week jobban from chemistry and CMO for your abuse of the job. Chemistry isn't about dicking around and potentially fucking with other people for fun. Save it for when you are an antagonist. While chloral is not lethal, it's still annoying and potentially dangerous to spike the chef's food for fun. Kevinz pretty much said it perfectly. This matter is closed unless a headmin wants to over-rule me here.
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Re: Howdy - Griefing chemist

Post by Howdydoody » #100946

fair enough perfectly reasonable for me going over board
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