Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

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Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:48 am #580011

Alright fuckers

this change is so fucking bad and stupid that it's literally making me never want to admin again. this was possibly intentional and if so well played

I dont know who did this, I'm not going to go back and check because if I ever find out who did I will grudge them for years

here's my explanation of why it's shit.

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I don't care what you do, you can fucking revert it for all I care, if it gets done, you get money. I don't care who I just want it to stop make it fucking stop MAKE IT STOP
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:56 am #580012

In the inverse to most ss13 changes, I liked this one at first and grew steadily more annoyed with it as I used it more and more.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Thunder11 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:14 am #580015

If I don’t know which category the verb I want is in, I have to search through then all whether they’re on different tabs or one long tab. If I do know, I now have to search for that category in the Tower of Babel Admin. This is in no way beneficial and serves only make it harder to find verbs.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Armhulen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:15 am #580016

You know I've barely noticed because I've entirely grown into using the command line
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby terranaut » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:21 am #580017

lol I immediately noticed this and complained about it when I was testing my code for the monkey sechailers for the toolbox tournament
its really awful (cant believe im agreeing with sticky on something)
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Thunder11 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:22 am #580018

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/53947

When you don’t post screenshots of the big change because people will hate it if you do.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Boris » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:30 am #580019

Always used the command line, can't relate sorry!
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby oranges » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:33 am #580020

I'm not changing it, now fuck off

if you know what verb you want you can use the command line, if you don't know, having them all in one tab makes them discoverable.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:41 am #580021

oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off

if you know what verb you want you can use the command line, if you don't know, having them all in one tab makes them discoverable.


muscle memory clicking on a verb is far quicker than typing into the command line and you know it
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby oranges » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:42 am #580022

I've heard a lot of things, but never have I ever heard as much bullshit as I have just heard right now

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:50 am #580023

oranges wrote:I've heard a lot of things, but never have I ever heard as much bullshit as I have just heard right now


why do you even care about this

Is this wasted whitespace in the default widescreen configuration here to "improve discoverability"?

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I actually just did the maths. Of 680 pixels in this screen, 190 are wasted useless whitespace as a direct result of this change. 28% of the fucking menu is literally by any possible metric, completely fucking useless
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Nabski » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:22 pm #580032

Sticky please don't kill yourself over a video game change.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:38 pm #580033

do you have a weird screen resolution? on master i don't have an issue with the fourth column being absent at 1920x1080

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:43 pm #580034

Thunder11 wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/53947

When you don’t post screenshots of the big change because people will hate it if you do.


If you click on the 'You can see video samples of both light and dark mode here on imgur.' directly below the screenshots you can see I very explicitly show the new Admin tab styling. I even make a point to scroll on it!

It's not very nice to imply I made this PR to hide anything, and I'd rather you don't imply that.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:57 pm #580035

cobby tells me that he gets the 3 column thing too so i suspect it might be a bug. my other suspicion as to where it may come from is that if changing the window size is somehow persistent then you may have manually changed it at some point, and then that bad sizing is for some reason saved, could you try using the Fit-Viewport verb? just type fit in your verb bar, hit space, and then enter
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:51 pm #580040

update: i got sticky to try fit-viewport and it didnt help! i think it might be based on the browser that BYOND uses to render the panel maybe? there's something weird goin on there
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 pm #580051

bobbahbrown wrote:update: i got sticky to try fit-viewport and it didnt help! i think it might be based on the browser that BYOND uses to render the panel maybe? there's something weird goin on there


no worries our head coder has already declared this a feature and it will not be changed because he gitpushed his ego to the repo
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Armhulen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:44 pm #580056

Stickymayhem wrote:
oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off

if you know what verb you want you can use the command line, if you don't know, having them all in one tab makes them discoverable.


muscle memory clicking on a verb is far quicker than typing into the command line and you know it

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Misdoubtful » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:51 pm #580058

I do prefer just using the command bar. Auto fill (very fast) and some command bar functions that buttons can't meet (like for vv) are just easier than learning a new layout, again. Since it never changes.

It's like the difference between doing things individually or doing them all at once through sdql.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Cobby » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:11 pm #580064

I set fit-viewport to manual, set it to 4 columns, leave, rejoin, and I can literally see the menu force itself back to 3 column width.

I think it is something related to widescreen because when i set widescreen off (fit-viewport auto on) then set it back to on it's at the same position aka 3 columns it forced it to when I join.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby skoglol » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:41 pm #580072

Cobby wrote:I set fit-viewport to manual, set it to 4 columns, leave, rejoin, and I can literally see the menu force itself back to 3 column width.

I think it is something related to widescreen because when i set widescreen off (fit-viewport auto on) then set it back to on it's at the same position aka 3 columns it forced it to when I join.


I dont play fullscreen and I've had window size reset on me to the same state for literal years, this is not new.

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Postby Cobby » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:19 am #580081

i only had to set it once when i was on my older computers though to 4 columns, I know i didnt have to do it every round so it cant be that old.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby zxaber » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:26 am #580082

Am I the only admin that enjoys not flipping through three tabs to find the verb I need?

The only thing that bugs me is Tickets being the last tab.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby PKPenguin321 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 am #580084

Stickymayhem wrote:
oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off

if you know what verb you want you can use the command line, if you don't know, having them all in one tab makes them discoverable.


muscle memory clicking on a verb is far quicker than typing into the command line and you know it

:roll:

that said i agree that the whitespace thing/important verbs being below meme buttons are pretty stupid changes but it sounds like one's a bug and the other would take ten seconds to fix so...
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby cacogen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:30 am #580097

oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off.

Who asked you to? Looking at the PR Thunder linked, it was made by bobbahbrown and merged by Rohesie. You didn't even comment on it. How is wanting it changed back a slight against you? You've done this with other things as well.

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bobbahbrown wrote:update: i got sticky to try fit-viewport and it didnt help! i think it might be based on the browser that BYOND uses to render the panel maybe? there's something weird goin on there


no worries our head coder has already declared this a feature and it will not be changed because he gitpushed his ego to the repo

You have to just try to slip the fix past him and hope he forgets blocking it is interwoven with his ego now. My post will not help. I don't care, though.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:43 am #580100

cacogen wrote:
oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off.

Who asked you to? Looking at the PR Thunder linked, it was made by bobbahbrown and merged by Rohesie. You didn't even comment on it. How is wanting it changed back a slight against you? You've done this with other things as well.


to give context on this oranges was the one who asked in adminbus if the PR was okay in the firstplace, so he did have a role in its development in that manner
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby cacogen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:45 am #580101

I see. Is it so hard to take feedback on board and update it as a result of that though?
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Flatulent » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:43 am #580114

dont do it, we dont want stickymayhem to admin ever again
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Cobby » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:41 pm #580170

the scrolling is fine tho
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Naloac » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:27 am #580198

its fine tbh, just make it an option if you have to change it AGAIN
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Nalzul » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:43 am #580208

just type the commands lol, its way faster than using the menu unless you dont know what the name of what youre doing is

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby oranges » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:57 am #580212

cacogen wrote:
oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off.

Who asked you to? Looking at the PR Thunder linked, it was made by bobbahbrown and merged by Rohesie. You didn't even comment on it. How is wanting it changed back a slight against you? You've done this with other things as well.

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bobbahbrown wrote:update: i got sticky to try fit-viewport and it didnt help! i think it might be based on the browser that BYOND uses to render the panel maybe? there's something weird goin on there


no worries our head coder has already declared this a feature and it will not be changed because he gitpushed his ego to the repo

You have to just try to slip the fix past him and hope he forgets blocking it is interwoven with his ego now. My post will not help. I don't care, though.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:48 am #580226

oranges wrote:
cacogen wrote:
oranges wrote:I'm not changing it, now fuck off.

Who asked you to? Looking at the PR Thunder linked, it was made by bobbahbrown and merged by Rohesie. You didn't even comment on it. How is wanting it changed back a slight against you? You've done this with other things as well.

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bobbahbrown wrote:update: i got sticky to try fit-viewport and it didnt help! i think it might be based on the browser that BYOND uses to render the panel maybe? there's something weird goin on there


no worries our head coder has already declared this a feature and it will not be changed because he gitpushed his ego to the repo

You have to just try to slip the fix past him and hope he forgets blocking it is interwoven with his ego now. My post will not help. I don't care, though.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Vekter » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:59 pm #580248

How much is the bounty
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby trollbreeder » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:08 pm #580249

Vekter wrote:How much is the bounty

Sixty bananas. Sixty bucks. Sixty one dollar bills. Sixty pencils to shove up your nose. Sixty. Six times ten. Two times three times ten. Sixty balloons. 60$
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:46 am #580288

Vekter wrote:How much is the bounty


S I X T Y D O L L A R Y D O O S

but you have to best oranges in the github arena as well
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby terranaut » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:38 pm #580298

Stickymayhem wrote:but you have to best oranges in the github arena as well

that's not how code bounties are handled because its out of the hands of the guy fulfilling the code bounty.
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:44 pm #580306

terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:but you have to best oranges in the github arena as well

that's not how code bounties are handled because its out of the hands of the guy fulfilling the code bounty.


ITS HOW THIS CODE BOUNTY WORKS AND THE PRICE REFLECTS THE EFFORT

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:47 pm #580307

Stickymayhem wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Stickymayhem wrote:but you have to best oranges in the github arena as well

that's not how code bounties are handled because its out of the hands of the guy fulfilling the code bounty.


ITS HOW THIS CODE BOUNTY WORKS AND THE PRICE REFLECTS THE EFFORT

I THOUGHT YOU LIKED CAPITALISM


code bounty is for code not for pr merge
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby cacogen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:34 pm #580316

Yeah you work on the code and get paid for that work regardless of whether a maintainer immediately closes it you yuppie
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby BONERMASTER » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:08 pm #580326

Ok, how about 120$ to leave the admin menu as it is?
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:20 pm #580327

BONERMASTER wrote:Ok, how about 120$ to leave the admin menu as it is?

I'll take it, now pay up
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby capn_monkeypaw » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:49 am #580349

I'll do it for $115.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:13 am #580375

i'll do it for $100 they never took my remote away
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby cacogen » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:17 am #580432

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Stickymayhem manually reverts pull request #53947 (2010)
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby JusticeGoat » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:23 am #580541

For the love of god please give me back my separated tabs like before 100% agree with sticky the new admin tab is terrible.

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Whoneedspacee » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:32 am #580549

yeah honestly this is gay as fuck for debugging whenever i want to spawn a megafauna i have to scroll to the bottom whereas it was easy as fuck beforehand

also if your screen margins change the tiniest bit you have to re-find the fucking button since it changes position massively whenever the column moves

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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby trollbreeder » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:45 am #580581

honestly for debugging i prefer having everything in one place because then i can look around to find what i want to use without becoming lost in the categories like the spawn reagent verb
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby bobbahbrown » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:37 pm #580602

for those of you who are displeased with my change: sorry
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Re: Code Bounty:FIX THE FUCKING ADMIN MENU $60

Postby Stickymayhem » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:12 pm #580604

bobbahbrown wrote:for those of you who are displeased with my change: sorry


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